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4/13/2011 20:33:32   
jegaggin
Member

I propose these changes which would make the game more balanced
Proposed changes
Lower Emp to increasing every 5
Get rid of the support requirement for tech mages Deadly aim (mages needed variety!)
Lowering the amount that atom smash takes but making it unblockable
stats start decreasing at 60 or 70 instead of 50 because no one just stops at 50 stat points.
take out the 20% resitance ignore from surgical strike
Buff the supercharge ability
take out the the bloodlust requiement
Slightly buff mercs hybrid armor to compete
against the buffs of bounty hunter and mage
(ends at 15) Make it have a slight dex requirement such as the max level needs 30 or 40 dex.
AQ AQW Epic  Post #: 101
4/14/2011 2:15:09   
edwardvulture
Member

I finally get how this nerfed 5 bonus builds. It penalized them for EVERY stat.
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 102
4/14/2011 7:11:06   
Zean Zapple
Member

Well, I'm a fan. Currently, with my build (credits to goldslayer for helping me out) I am knocking out a rough 95%. Out of roughly 200 battles yesterday I only lost 8( 3 were Bounty Hunters, 2 were Mercenaries, 3 were Mages) and in all of those fights, I was blocked multiple times, deflected, and or crited multiple times.


~Zean
Epic  Post #: 103
4/14/2011 11:43:11   
midijus123
Member

I expected from last update much more non-varium players is eaven more weaker one of those is me minde12. We need better wepons!!!
But you give better weps just for varium players, I hope you fix this and give us better weps. And i want that in new update would be mension about next one. Why don't you creat videos like before it was much more better not like know?
Epic  Post #: 104
4/14/2011 12:09:20   
sunis
Member

This update - stealing from the players.

theft of time, money and hope to play.


-3 points from Dextery, Technology defense.

Varium was paid, this is real money.

Thieves.
Post #: 105
4/14/2011 12:17:48   
Vegafire
Member

quote:

This update - stealing from the players.

theft of time, money and hope to play.


-3 points from Dextery, Technology defense.

Varium was paid, this is real money.

Thieves


People calm down this is not stealing, i have paid hundreds of pounds out on multiple accounts for this game and i have no problems with it being reduced because you can always enhance your items so that you get you +3 back.... and also its reducing all players not just a few so there is no big change.

If you have a problem with this please reply with a more polite post as you are making it out that they are breaking the law and there not there following your suggestions to improve a game for you's. and yes this is real money, But in retrospect a game takes 12-18 months to make. time when Titan could have been out working and also the staff have to be paid, the VPS or whatever They are using to host the game on. Domain name cost money so stop calling them theives.

All that you's are doing is disrespecting them and they deserve better than this. your acting like a bunch of children

Thank you,
Deathshadowslayer
AQW Epic  Post #: 106
4/14/2011 12:28:12   
sunis
Member

Apparently someone over here is hard to understand.
Before I had the update:
Dexter: 45+38 and it gave me 27-32 defense.
After the update I have to:
Dexter: 45 +38, and it gives me 24-29.

Dear Sirs, +38 varium echance behind objects. Cost money.

Now I do not have it, for what I paid.

Do not smudge?

The result is not the money spent there.
Reason - update.
Which leads me back the money?
Nobody.
Why?
So that - that should be purchased according to the new game level rules.
Now the rules changed, and the strategy needs to change?
Each of them free.
Prior to this policy for which premiums were paid, now someone's idea is no longer valid.

Manure.

P.S.If the master wants to cover someone else's expenses, make transfer to the bank rather than another school.

Edit:
What is the purpose this update?

If the update before the soldier was stronger than after.

What is 33lvl?

If, before the update 32LVL was stronger than the current 33lvl?

This upgrade is not required for players, unless the recipients.

Posts merged, please do not double post as it is considered spam. Please use the edit button to add any additional information to your post. ~Illuminator

< Message edited by Illuminator -- 4/14/2011 18:35:36 >
Post #: 107
4/14/2011 12:37:20   
Vegafire
Member

quote:

Apparently someone over here is hard to understand.
Before I had the update:
Dexter: 45+38 and it gave me 27-32 defense.
After the update I have to:
Dexter: 45 +38, and it gives me 24-29.

Dear Sirs, +38 varium echance behind objects. Cost money.

Now I do not have it, for what I paid.

Do not smudge?

The result is not the money spent there.
Reason - update.
Which leads me back the money?
Nobody.
Why?
So that - that should be purchased according to the new game level rules.
Now the rules changed, and the strategy needs to change?
Each of them free.
Prior to this policy for which premiums were paid, now someone's idea is no longer valid.

Manure.

P.S.If the master wants to cover someone else's expenses, make transfer to the bank rather than another school.


Then purchase more and you can battle as enhancements can be purchased via credits. Stop complaining if your expecting them to re-emburse either your money or some extra varium to satisfy your needs they cannot be liable by law they have the right to change the game in anyway that suits them and as making us happy suits them this change was braught on by us so stop with the whining im not hard at understanding i am annoyed at people calling Titan a theif and expecting him to re emburse there money or give them extras. because he is not liable by law to do this.
AQW Epic  Post #: 108
4/14/2011 12:43:57   
sunis
Member

Mr titan can you advocate?
Are you a player?
If you are a player, then you are unreasonable.
Since all the players they lost and seek the.
Sir, you are deceived himself, or whether it wants to cheat?
Maybe you have some dog tive indicators and this?
LOL

< Message edited by sunis -- 4/14/2011 12:55:20 >
Post #: 109
4/14/2011 13:54:23   
Vegafire
Member

quote:

Mr titan can you advocate?
Are you a player?
If you are a player, then you are unreasonable.
Since all the players they lost and seek the.
Sir, you are deceived himself, or whether it wants to cheat?
Maybe you have some dog tive indicators and this?
LOL



Titan did this in our best interest and he is not cheating anyone.

By law he is not commiting fraud aslong as you get what you pay for which you did and you spent it. So drop the theif stuff and the cheat stuff.
He did not change the price of the weapons ect so it doesent affect varium as everyone got reduced you should still be stronger than the same people as you were before and your making the biggest deal out of it. Please leave this alone and if you have a problem suggest in the suggestion section that this update be undone. And see how other players respond not just what you think.
AQW Epic  Post #: 110
4/14/2011 14:02:03   
sunis
Member

I have one word - crime.
Aim to profit from the low player's score.
Before my update 32LVL soldier can beat two current 33lvl players.
Objective of this update, no need for the players.


Thieves.
Post #: 111
4/14/2011 14:03:43   
IsaiahtheMage
Member

@Sunis I agree they stole our builds which we paid for.

Theives.
AQW Epic  Post #: 112
4/14/2011 14:45:35   
Vegafire
Member

quote:

@Sunis I agree they stole our builds which we paid for.

Theives.


How dare you say this they own all rights to the game and you do not pay for the build you pay for the varium + credits +promo items but i cannot beleive you dare call Titan a theif.

quote:

I have one word - crime.
Aim to profit from the low player's score.
Before my update 32LVL soldier can beat two current 33lvl players.
Objective of this update, no need for the players.


How dare you make any suggestment that Titan is commiting crime. This should be dealt with very seriosly in my oppinion but it Is upto titan as i dont think that even Artix himself can make a decision on this as you made aqusation that Titan is commiting a crime which he is not.
AQW Epic  Post #: 113
4/14/2011 14:50:03   
Scott Reese
Member

If you are paying for stats, it is so that those stats can overpower and defeat your enemy. Well that still happens doesn't it? Your opponents stats have been affected the exact same way, so if you had more power than the average player before, you'll still have more power over them now.

On a completely unrelated note, try telling the Wal-Mart electronics clerk you're going to take a game home and preview it for free. Also accuse him of stealing when the game doesn't completely satisfy your needs because it tries to be fair for the majority of players, particularly the ones that pay to play. No seriously, the look on that clerk's face is going to be priceless.
Epic  Post #: 114
4/14/2011 14:54:50   
Vegafire
Member

quote:

If you are paying for stats, it is so that those stats can overpower and defeat your enemy. Well that still happens doesn't it? Your opponents stats have been affected the exact same way, so if you had more power than the average player before, you'll still have more power over them now.

On a completely unrelated note, try telling the Wal-Mart electronics clerk you're going to take a game home and preview it for free. Also accuse him of stealing when the game doesn't completely satisfy your needs because it tries to be fair for the majority of players, particularly the ones that pay to play. No seriously, the look on that clerk's face is going to be priceless.


Thank you man, you know this is not a crime and it is in our best interest.
AQW Epic  Post #: 115
4/14/2011 15:01:46   
sunis
Member

@Scott Reese


LOL

There is a big difference.

If I am a Mercenary - Support ACC, then left the better of me after this update.
Since the support points have not changed, neither grew nor declined.
Support damage remained the same, but the protection of the fallen.
But if I am a mage, and I actually fell by Dexter and technology.
Mage actually got even worse.
All ACC, which are linked to technology and dextery, they get worse.

But still there was a crime.

To restore points so that they can withstand the Mercenary-ACC support the damage to be angry again buy buy.

This upgrade - buy a new promotion

deathslayer are really so d....b?

< Message edited by sunis -- 4/14/2011 15:03:10 >
Post #: 116
4/14/2011 15:05:52   
Scott Reese
Member

I just think its unfair that the ED team has to listen to people calling them thieves and cheats while they're doing work for their own community. I don't see any of these accusers developing their own games and going through the pain and hassles of trying to run a business based around that game. Its not as easy as it looks.
Epic  Post #: 117
4/14/2011 15:12:22   
sunis
Member

And it seems to me very wrong, when misplaced it for what you were paid.
So what is the answer for this?
Maybe I?
Who paid the money and still leave the guilty?

Do not make yourself from victim to criminals!

The wrong way to make money as a thief.

Shame.
Post #: 118
4/14/2011 15:18:06   
Scott Reese
Member

Well sunis, what would your solution be? You seem to only be accusing, without presenting a fair and acceptable solution.

May I ask what your win percentage is?
Epic  Post #: 119
4/14/2011 15:24:23   
Cookielord12
Member

i think blood lust needs a tougher requirement. too many bounties are benefitting from the low tech requirement. especially 5 focus.
and to equal it out i think that hybrid armour and reroute need requirement also. it is too easy to max those and be OP
AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 120
4/14/2011 15:25:19   
sunis
Member


@Scott Reese

Before you were 80 to 90%.
Max is now 69%.

< Message edited by sunis -- 4/14/2011 15:26:15 >
Post #: 121
4/14/2011 15:30:28   
Scott Reese
Member

quote:

Before you were 80 to 90%.
Max is now 69%.


So you still win more than you lose, but now its different because you aren't guaranteed to win almost every match, the way you were before?
Epic  Post #: 122
4/14/2011 15:31:01   
8x
Member

quote:

LOL

There is a big difference.

If I am a Mercenary - Support ACC, then left the better of me after this update.
Since the support points have not changed, neither grew nor declined.
Support damage remained the same, but the protection of the fallen.
But if I am a mage, and I actually fell by Dexter and technology.
Mage actually got even worse.
All ACC, which are linked to technology and dextery, they get worse.

But still there was a crime.

To restore points so that they can withstand the Mercenary-ACC support the damage to be angry again buy buy.

This upgrade - buy a new promotion

deathslayer are really so d....b?


All points have changed not only dex and tech... After you reach 50 stat points dex and tech go up by 4, str and supp go up by 5 points...
Epic  Post #: 123
4/14/2011 15:32:50   
Larcell
Member

(Kick-butt build before the update)

STR 45+16
DEX 45+30
TECH 45+31
SUP 45+12


All above 50... and the sad thing is....
that my Primary (Celtic Fangs) has a tech requirement of 42
that my Aux (Frost Cannon) has a str requirement of 40
and that my Gun (SkullFire Blaster) has a dex requirement of 40.

And to think Balance would be the honorable, most benefiting thing to do.


Changed my build...needed more offensive power (Max Venom) and defensive power (more SUP to benefit Sheild and Reflex)

STR 40+16
DEX 40+30
TECH 42+31
SUP 54+12

Still nerfed.....and I can't go to a +3 focus build. DARN IT. Now I need weapons with lower requirements. (aka STR BH)

< Message edited by Larcell -- 4/14/2011 15:37:50 >

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Epic  Post #: 124
4/14/2011 15:35:01   
Xendran
Member

*cracks knuckles*
Now that titan and nightwraith are getting the hang of things, maybe i should step back into this.

Just a note: Dimishing stat returns should start at ~64 and the penalty should increase the higher you go. 64, 76, 88, 100 seems reasonable for +1 +2 +3 +4.

EDIT: Alright, lets do this.

--Current--
Strength
-Primary Damage
-Sidearm Damage

Dexterity
-Defence
-Block Rate

Technology
-Resistance
-Robot Damage

Support
-Auxiliary Damage
-Criticals
-Stuns
-Deflects
-First Turn

Focus
-Robot Damage

Agility
-Armor Penalty

More Balanced Method (MORE balanced not PERFECTLY balanced. Im tired atm so i probably forgot/mistyped something)

Strength
Main: Primary Damage
Luck: Deflections
Additional: Sidearm Damage

Dexterity
Main: Defence
Luck: Blocks (reduce block to 50% damage reduction)
Additional: First Turn Chance

Technology
Main: Resistance
Luck: Stun
Additional: Robot Damage

Support
Main: Auxiliary Damage
Luck: Critical (Adjust critical to 50% piercing)
Additional: First Turn Chance


< Message edited by Xendran -- 4/14/2011 15:49:30 >
AQ DF Epic  Post #: 125
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