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7/10/2018 13:19:04   
One Winged Angel1357
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@SSM If it was a nerf I would agree with you but it isn't a nerf. When running the idea against builds with greater than 69 base tech you get a delta of (-18)-99 damage while the bot is in cool down with a loss of 10-58 bot damage*. You also gain an additional 10-54 defense but lose 14-92 resistance while still having 32 stat points free and no modifiers applied.

*This is based on the change in the range limits. Primary and aux increase from 90-108 to 102-123 so it is still possibly for them to hit lower than before at (-6) but they can also hit a possible 33 points higher. Sidearm increases from 75-90 to 85-102 giving them a delta of (-5)-27 so using them would result in more favorable results at the lower end, (-17) instead of (-18), but it could cost you on the higher end with a maximum 93 instead of 99. Bot damage goes from 333-360 down to 302-323 so in the best case scenario you lose 10 damage in the worst you lose 58.


When looking at this on my build I took 10 points from health, 125 HP, and 1 from dex and tech to get the twelve points needed to put my build at the "new" numbers. Primary damage increases from 454-477 to 463-488. Sidearm damage decreases from 471-498 to 470-496. Auxiliary increases from 470-488 to 482-503. Bot damage decreases from 530-562 to 528-560. Defense decreases from 314-369 to 312-367. And last but not least resistance drops from 328-380 to 325-376.

My only concern looking at these numbers is I have about one less hit in me but with the recent changes to debuffs I have more than enough tools to mitigate that. Still not likely to remove my pyro fly because it is one of the best answers to burst damage builds but it might be worth looking into the Bunny bot or Bio Borg if strike based builds prove too much for the lower HP
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7/14/2018 6:44:09   
Silver Sky Magician
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^

We’ll have to see how it works out in practice I guess, I have seen a few successful non-traditional 5 focus builds around lately.

On the topic of wars, I think we should have repeatable war missions (not dailies) where you get 1 super bomb for every 10 wins, or at least 1 regular bomb per 5 missions if the devs want to be more conservative. Can be a bit frustrating to not see any drops in a while, and this can alleviate the RNG somewhat.
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7/14/2018 13:25:10   
.Lord Ginger.
Member

Exile drop rate is lower than legions, still, and it's very annoying. I don't care what y'all say about the drop rates being the same, anyone who has been exile and legion knows the truth.
AQW Epic  Post #: 28
7/14/2018 13:40:59   
One Winged Angel1357
Member


I wouldn't even go for making them missions just RNG protection of every # of wins you get a bomb and every 2# of wins you get a super bomb. This way you can work on other missions for more credits while helping the war effort.

That said my ideas for the war have always been against how the devs are doing things
AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 29
7/17/2018 2:39:27   
DaBombExpert
Member

I am looking at suggestions offered by the player base and looking into things im seeing myself, as well as Nightwraith and the other testers. We are heavily looking into player discussions and feedback to see improvements moving forward. Hope everyone is doing well and keep those suggestions coming, we are not ignoring you! We hear you!

~Teufel Hunden
~Da Bomb Expert

< Message edited by DaBombExpert -- 7/17/2018 11:58:41 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 30
7/17/2018 4:47:40   
RYL Crown
Member
 

1. Add more music to the game not the annoying ones
2. Increase duel rewards
3. Reduce the worlds to 3 so people get to interact with each other
4. Make daily log-in rewards
5. Make sets that cost 100+k credits for people with a ton of credits (can't be bought buy varium)

Merged with suggestions thread ~WhiteTiger

< Message edited by WhiteTiger -- 7/17/2018 13:02:47 >
Post #: 31
7/18/2018 5:02:42   
Daph Duck
Member

@ RYL Crown

1. what is annoying music?? ed literally has no music at all, besides the error sounds, little sound effects when you do some stuff, george lowe, and friend notifications. i think it is perfectly fine that we don't have music because we can pick our own battle playlists and that is really cool. maybe some ambience in some areas would be cool but that would require people to actually put effort into deciding what music to put or commissioning someone to make music that is licensed for ED and i dont think that is ed's biggest priority nor will it bring back more playerz

2. good idea i guess but we already have power weekends so i am not $ure if this is necessary???????

3. no thanks, some of us enjoy our privacy.

4. pretty good idea.

5. we already have tons of credit sinks, ED should make more money by making more varium weapons.
AQW Epic  Post #: 32
7/18/2018 9:29:41   
One Winged Angel1357
Member


@Daph we have run this experiment before when it comes to making money. If they gear doesn't offer some form of power then it doesn't shift units. Most obvious example is the Legion and Exile tank packages that not many players purchased
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7/18/2018 9:41:34   
.Lord Ginger.
Member

^ Still a broken promise since they only made that up once they decided to not put the promo back in and everyone got angry.

< Message edited by .Lord Ginger. -- 7/18/2018 9:57:19 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 34
7/18/2018 15:21:24   
Adoshia
Member
 

First of all, shoutout to Nightwraith for taking the time to at least give the game something, something is always better than nothing. Now, a quick question, do you think Nightwraith, or should I say the team trying to get Epicduel into maintenance mode? Which is just another way of saying are they trying to get the game to a point where everything is more evenly balanced so they can sit back and do what they have to do with the other Artix games in development so that they can transition back into the development of Epicduel? I've seen games do this in the past. I was pleasantly surprised to see that there was actually a promotion going on, to my knowledge the development/releases were on a halt until further notice.

With that out of the way here are my ideas/suggestions for epicduel as far as the features would go.

1. I strongly agree with Mother on making power weekends every weekend as the game hasn't been getting much development and thus making power weekends only on certain events kinda lack. This will be a great opportunity for people getting back into the game gather the experience needed to get the ranks necessary to compete with other high tier players, as people who've been playing have that large power spike with the legendary points, this will help with even leveling, the underdog system is here, yes but it's non-comparable to actually be the same level as your opponents.

2. Shared inventory system, I think it would be a fun idea and addition to having a bank that you can put items in and can be grabbed by any character on that account. I could understand why it wouldn't be implemented though being as in the past varium packages and promotions were strictly for the character you bought them on.

3. As far as the balancing goes I feel like this time around you guys did a great job and I'm glad to see some serious balance patches roll out so good job on that.

4. 2018 rare item additions, as the new promotion shows I think this is a great idea, it allows newer players and old the chance to grab items that maybe they weren't around for or simply couldn't get at the time, and with adding the 2018 tag to it, it allows the players to experience the weapons without slapping the Alpha/Beta or whatever phase the items are coming from in the face by making sure that their copies of the items are the true copies. Plus I feel like it's going to be a very popular addition, profitable at that, I'm not sure exactly where EDs profits go but it would be a good idea to get some more fiscal stability in hopes of maybe returning full time to this game, or part time with at least monthly updates and releases instead of the staple weekly releases.

Thanks for taking the time to read this if you did and let me extend a personal thank you to you and Nightwraith in an effort to keep this game going strong, sending a lot of respect your guys' way.
Post #: 35
7/19/2018 16:04:09   
One Winged Angel1357
Member


@above profits from each game go into the same company pot but they do keep track of how much each game makes and that's how they are deciding which games will be getting returning support. NW is an outlier to this metric and I don't expect NW to stop work on the game anytime soon. But for anyone else to come back they are looking at sales figures as well as player counts.

@Lord Ginger EpicDuel has a storied history of breaking promises. At least this time it rewarded those who took the initiative instead of punishing them
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7/19/2018 16:29:06   
Adoshia
Member
 

@OWA Thank you for taking the time to clarify that for me. So basically what we're looking at is, for every game all the funds go to the same spot, and regardless of where said funds come from, game-wise they just put it towards the most popular/profitable game at the time? With that said, I think Epicduel is still in a better spot than some of the old AE games that I'm pretty sure aren't getting updated often or none anymore, such as like Oversoul and MechQuest as an example. But with the explanation, you gave me that doesn't put us in a very good spot as far as development goes as it's going to be extremely hard to get the player base to a stable higher number as it used to be. But with that said NW is still doing an excellent job at doing what he is doing and I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say we appreciate the efforts he's putting in to keep the game still going. Who knows maybe he'll make that one change that just floods people back. Just have to wait and see I suppose. Again thanks for the info and your reply!
Post #: 37
7/19/2018 18:17:38   
Daph Duck
Member

Target Ping Suggestion

in league of legends we have an option to target ping, like we press a button and then click the enemy we want to attack and it signals to atack that enemy, wel how about we have that option in 2vs2.
AQW Epic  Post #: 38
7/19/2018 21:34:11   
One Winged Angel1357
Member


@adoshia correct the company moves around employees to where they are needed and where they will best benefit the company going forward. So if a game isn't making money then they employees from that game to a different game. In the case of AQ3D it was life or death, might be a slight exaggeration, at the start as was discussed with the Kickstarter. The mobile games were an easy way to get teams up to speed with the new technology as well as try at the lottery that it mobile gaming.

Also you and I share the same conclusion. All of the games that want to get development restarted are in a bit of a pickle because the weight is on the community to get player counts up and to get sales up. Oversoul is leveraging their community run tournaments to try and get player counts up but they can't really touch on sales because they don't have a NW making them new promos to drive sales. I also don't know how their sales model works whereas with EpicDuel I got to spend a lot of time talking with the devs about sales, what worked what didn't. All of that said $50 promos is this games best bet with getting the funding levels met
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7/19/2018 23:24:43   
Adoshia
Member
 

@OWA - So with that information there, essentially NW and all of the Mods/testers and everyone else still contributing to Epicduel is buying time in a sense, with him doing what he's doing he's keeping at least the dedicated part of the community playing to keep the numbers in a relevant (but not comfortable) spot. And yeah I also enjoy seeing the new promos coming out, not only because I like the items because i've bought packs I really didn't care for but I wanted to support the team so I got them anyway. And I just really love seeing him furthering the content and the extensive balancing has been nice and well needed. Like you said it's not only on NW's shoulders, us as a community can also be helping and need to be doing so. As you stated by making the new promos it also shows that the game still has a potential to pull in profits. So I'll definitely be evaluating how I can at least help benefit this community. I've been here so long and love this game so much to where I feel it would be bad not to. Let me also extend a thank you for having these chats with me and exchanging information. It's been insightful and helpful and I appreciate it.
Post #: 40
7/20/2018 11:45:49   
One Winged Angel1357
Member


@adoshia No problem mate. I wrote for the game for roughly two years, wow it was really that long, and acted as some form of game historian and community liaison so I have learned a ton of stuff that isn't really public knowledge but isn't covered by my NDA because it is all something I had to post to the forums at one time or another. Keeping the community informed with the goals of the developers makes conversations less one sided because, unless the back end of the forums log-in has changed, it is a pain in the butt for the developers to actually post here and give their side of the conversation. That is why we have this "We're listening" thread and why I did focus feedback threads on Monday's back in the day.
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