RE: =ED= New DN 05/10/2011 (Full Version)

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goldslayer1 -> RE: =ED= New DN 05/10/2011 (10/11/2011 22:39:19)

@blood
if ur gonna use an energy primary the i suggest deltic cleaver
for its +7% connect




Elf Priest JZaanu -> RE: =ED= New DN 05/10/2011 (10/11/2011 22:48:38)

I wanted to congratulate the Build team/Developers on this adjustment to medic. I was not sure how it would fair in play, but looking at it after some matches, Medic is now a skill and not passive band-aidŽ anymore. This does change the game from a support based plan of letting support do all the work, and one would have to just have to cycle through turns.





Shao Kahn -> RE: =ED= New DN 05/10/2011 (10/11/2011 22:55:10)

I want Celtic clever so bad, but it is so far away...




Basicball -> RE: =ED= New DN 05/10/2011 (10/12/2011 0:06:34)

to anyone who's interested: here's the new EDMU vid on the update (made by One Winged Angel)




Nessa -> Update once again (10/12/2011 6:34:43)

Hi all :)
Its the first time I write here myself. Before I only read whats new and what people think about this game. But this update made me say some.
I started playing Epic Duel some time ago and brought a lot of people here cause the game had a good balance and latest since the new classes came it was worth spending some cash on it and leaving all the other good projects.
Just to say it, no I am not always tac merc ;) I changed classes a lot and my favourite class was tech mage. No matter what class I played there was always a good chance to beat any other class, even those so called over powered mercs.
No here came the update:
I logged in tried a few fights as merc,but it was no fun at all, as there is no balance anymore, so I tried a few other builds,but same thing. Than I switched to bounty, same there, the fun is just out as the balance totaly broke, so I switched back to merc, still no change.
What makes me think the balance broke you ask?
1. before we had those updates I played 2 vs 2 a lot. Usually there are quiet unfair teams as one side usually has a lower level,but there was still a chance as a good heal could help the weaker team survive and the fights were always fun.
Now when you have a lower level its a loose by at least 80% as the lower level has no chance to do a proper heal, you also can`t do anything as your heal is also nerfed.
2. Since one of the last updates the damage from lower levels is nerfed, means if you have a low level on your team, you don`t just have a dissadvantage in healing,but also in damage. So its not a a game of skill anymore, its just luck to be on the side with the higher levels.

Maybe thats good for some causal gamers who are fine with a 50% win ratio and they might not even see a real differents, but if you try to get a good game record its no fun at all anymore. No tactic,just luck. I know it was a bit luck before too but now you can say which team wins when the game starts.
I don`t like to be the one flaming here, I think its just sad that this game tuned ( in my eyes) the wrong way, breaking down any balance this game had. I talked to a lot of friends already and I know that many good and well known players are thinking about leaving this game already, so do I.
Maybe the idea to get any class closer to each other was fine and some things you guys did was quiet ok, but the healing thing is defenetly something thats gave the players here a slap in the face.

Yours Nessa Telperi

Since this is about the update, merged into the Design Notes thread. There are plenty of topics already where you can discuss this update. ~Ashari




King FrostLich -> RE: =ED= New DN 05/10/2011 (10/12/2011 7:33:36)

This update seemed to confuse my brain though. A new formula to memorize so I can understand the percentages of happening with some things Titan said that were too code-ishly said but I'll respect that. I'd give the devs a good job for stopping support mercs from spamming heal but now we have a big problem for the weapons. What happens to the halloween bazookas?(Spectral Blaster and Ghoul Cannon) It needs to be really adjusted from being a promo and a varium weapon because the varium users who now have serpent blasters and better bazookas will not buy it(90% of them) because it's very outdated. I believe it should go to the non variums and make stronger versions of it. [8|] Oh and don't forget about the juggernaut issue since field medic is now nerfed for everyone. It would be unfair facing level 30 players who can do huge damage to juggernauts when we heal low health against them. Oh and one last thing about the Marauder glitch. Thanks for fixing it, good thing I had a video of it found here rofl. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9hfK3e-dc4




Matgon -> RE: =ED= New DN 05/10/2011 (10/12/2011 8:49:36)

@above: The spectral blasters are level 24-28, the lower levels should also have promotional items and even for a level 28 that is a very strong bazooka.




King FrostLich -> RE: =ED= New DN 05/10/2011 (10/12/2011 8:52:42)

They can just adjust the level requirement for it rather than let lower levels have it. After all, they don't seem to be powerful zookas anymore nor will they ever be good promo items unlike last year.




Matgon -> RE: =ED= New DN 05/10/2011 (10/12/2011 8:55:21)

@above: Well they did say they are cutting down on promo items so maybe there isn't going to be one, they should sell them ingame or changing them to non-varium even though they have never done that before.




drinde -> RE: =ED= New DN 05/10/2011 (10/12/2011 8:56:30)

@Marauder Glitch
ROFL. Great video, great fights.

I even tried him at LV30 for fun and had to kill him twice.

@Update
Not bad, not that good either. HP Drain skills seem to be very effective now.




King FrostLich -> RE: =ED= New DN 05/10/2011 (10/12/2011 8:59:39)

We'll just wait and see what happens to these bazookas. Making them varium anyway even if it's not a promo item anymore or changing its price is still making the bazookas worthless either way. I just have a feeling that something is going to happen to those bazookas.....unexpectedly but fine we'll just see.




Calogero -> RE: =ED= New DN 05/10/2011 (10/12/2011 9:03:31)

lmao I dare someone to beat Admin 11 or Hazard with the new Field Medic xD




Matgon -> RE: =ED= New DN 05/10/2011 (10/12/2011 9:04:49)

@King Frostlich: Didn't they say they weren't buffing seasonals anymore? That makes all seasonals worthless aswell and there is no point releasing them as promo items unless they want lower level players to get something aswell.




King FrostLich -> RE: =ED= New DN 05/10/2011 (10/12/2011 9:11:51)

Well I wasn't asking a buff for it, it's more of a revised statement/opinion for it because I sense something inside my head that something bad is gonna happen if halloween weapons turn into a failure.




Elf Priest JZaanu -> RE: =ED= New DN 05/10/2011 (10/12/2011 12:12:13)

Though Field Medic is the first to fall in-line, I think this will be many steps of skill and stat standardizing. There will be some bumps in the road, but in the long run, the game will be more universal from level 1 and beyond.




One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: =ED= New DN 05/10/2011 (10/12/2011 15:05:52)

@ Andy good point i want to see a video of someone beating Admin 11 or Armor Hazard




supermasivo -> RE: =ED= New DN 05/10/2011 (10/12/2011 15:24:59)

After being almost all day playing today i can agree this statement... this Update is TERRIBLE!

Support build, anykind... totally erased... BUT WHAT ABOUT STR BUILDS? in fact i had to make a str build to make wins...
it suxs! really hard! why u erased totally all support buiild but stupid strenght build STILL there without any problem to get over 120 str?

This is totally unballanced! THE ONLY SUCCESFULL BUILD HERE IS THE ONE WHO DEAL MORE DAMAGE AND HAVE MORE HP OR DEF/RES STATS TO STAY ALIVE COUSE U CANT HEAL ANYMORE...
So this is perfect to BH, BM and frenzy TLM... they can get back hp with all their attacks... insane and really really unfair to people that cant get those stats...

very very bad update...!
make something to get a really good nerf to str builds... (all classes)




Calogero -> RE: =ED= New DN 05/10/2011 (10/12/2011 15:31:12)

Rather a STR build then your dummy Support build :)

Str can be countered, Support couldn't ;)




Baron Dante -> RE: =ED= New DN 05/10/2011 (10/12/2011 15:34:24)

I never had any issues with STR builds. They were on my favor, most of the time.

I still won't have any issues. and as said, the changes aren't over yet.




DeathGuard -> RE: =ED= New DN 05/10/2011 (10/12/2011 15:39:44)

I really don't have any problem with update and I think it was really good, we're going to be almost balanced in around 4 months or less.




supermasivo -> RE: =ED= New DN 05/10/2011 (10/12/2011 15:44:59)

Sad couse they are forcing to support only users to buy a 10k varium package to get deltas or any seasonal rare weap to get the new oped build or class... its an asvertising strategy to force support players to change class and buy new weaps.




Eternal Dreams -> RE: =ED= New DN 05/10/2011 (10/12/2011 16:48:07)

@FrostLich Maybe they will make lvl 33 Halloween promo items similar to the Ghoul Cannon and Spectral Blaster?




Shadronica -> RE: =ED= New DN 05/10/2011 (10/12/2011 17:56:26)

@Andy123. Just logged in to see if I could take up your challenge to beat Admin and Hazard lvl 28. I haven't even bothered to change my build in 6 months but surprisingly both my tech mage and my regular merc beat them both with ease.





One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: =ED= New DN 05/10/2011 (10/12/2011 18:05:58)

@Shad that is great news




Wraith -> RE: =ED= New DN 05/10/2011 (10/12/2011 18:49:37)

Shadronica, he meant the bpsses not the farmable nps, armor hazatd and admin 11 are boss npcs with 1000 HP.




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