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Zeoth -> RE: =ED= New Customization of Varium Packages (4/27/2012 20:20:22)

No not really ^^




spinutto -> RE: =ED= New Customization of Varium Packages (4/27/2012 20:27:41)

@Trans Then in my case ,i got 2500k varium but didn't spend nothing. Is it possible that i get points back then buy the pack again for 4500 creds+ 3 keys?
Doesn't sound possible




Ranloth -> RE: =ED= New Customization of Varium Packages (4/27/2012 20:29:37)

It's a 30 day policy and you cannot spend anything. If you spent OR 30 days have passed, you cannot get it.




Bu Kek Siansu -> RE: =ED= New Customization of Varium Packages (4/27/2012 21:39:20)

quote:

Those who already spent points, will get keys or something?
No, sorry, this is a new system!

~Practel

Hi Practel,

I bought 3x 13,000 Artix Points a few hours ago, will I get keys?
I think so once I use them. Is it right? :p




PivotalDisorder -> RE: =ED= New Customization of Varium Packages (4/27/2012 21:42:25)

@Ava: only ingame spending of Artix Points was changed. basically, how you purchase varium.




Bu Kek Siansu -> RE: =ED= New Customization of Varium Packages (4/27/2012 21:48:54)

^ I meant when I buy a Package Varium with some of the Artix Points I mentioned above I will get keys, right? :)
I've in total of about 42,000 Artix Points.




BlueKatz -> RE: =ED= New Customization of Varium Packages (4/27/2012 21:59:52)

lol I can't believe people do complain about this. It's just an UI change to make it easier to pay. Now the staffs don't have to put down like 20 pages of offer to read




Stabilis -> RE: =ED= New Customization of Varium Packages (4/27/2012 21:59:56)

So, you can get for example 4 10K packs, each giving 5 keys. Every time you purchase a 10K pack you will be able to administer 5 keys. The keys do not stay, so you will have to spend all 5 keys at the purchase of every 10K package, opposed to stocking 20 keys at once. Does that give any assurance?




PivotalDisorder -> RE: =ED= New Customization of Varium Packages (4/27/2012 22:00:33)

@AVA: you cannot buy the varium without first spending the keys, once you picked what you want, the buy button lights up.




SouL Prisoner -> RE: =ED= New Customization of Varium Packages (4/27/2012 22:37:32)

@ Practel

Shouldn't the old players , who upgraded tons of times, get at least 5 keys for free , for the 1st time....I am sure this way you could have rewarded them for supporting ED for Past times...... :)





Goony -> RE: =ED= New Customization of Varium Packages (4/27/2012 22:50:04)

Just to try to clarify this, the keys are not like tokens or varium and they can't be stockpiled.

You simply get a set of keys when you select a package and you use those keys to unlock whatever variation of offers that you would like to use those keys on. When you click "Buy" the keys are used and that's it...




Bu Kek Siansu -> RE: =ED= New Customization of Varium Packages (4/27/2012 23:17:05)

^^ Hm, thanks to both of you(PivotalDisorder and Goony) for the clarification. :)




ScarletReaper -> RE: =ED= New Customization of Varium Packages (4/28/2012 0:30:18)

I support that soulprisonerx. I've already spent 170 dollars here so far. Would be nice if we got 5 keys to start. [8D]




Joe10112 -> RE: =ED= New Customization of Varium Packages (4/28/2012 1:16:34)

I sense here is a good place to "reward" all varium buyers like they said...

Ah I'm still sore over 4,400 credits.

But others are probably sore over 44,000 credits...so I probably shouldn't be complaining.




Thylek Shran -> RE: =ED= New Customization of Varium Packages (4/28/2012 1:23:32)

The Buy Varium button at the inventory should be removed
it produces eye cancer.




Evil Mage -> RE: =ED= New Customization of Varium Packages (4/28/2012 1:25:38)

Its good for idiots like me who refuse to use varium items and use varium for enchantments only. :D




Lycus -> RE: =ED= New Customization of Varium Packages (4/28/2012 7:53:59)

I have to say, I did find reading this discussion incredibly amusing, especially by the fact that everyone contradicts each other so much. You have one set of people complaining that there's no difference, the Devs are just greedy etc. and then you have people complaining the bought Varium before hand and that they've lost out on this and that, and it isn't fair.

Look as RabbleFroth has pointed out, there's a lot of benefits for this system for all levels, and I think that many of you are looking at it from a very slim line of perspective. Look at it in the broad view. Not everyone who's level 32/33/34 buys the 10k Varium package, which seems to be assumed by quite a few people here. If you are a level 32/33/34 and buy a small package since you don't have enough to buy a big package, or you only need to get a small quantity of Varium, you get a lower package and either get the Starter kit, or nothing what-so-ever extra that is either pointless at your level, or if you got nothing, then you feel like you've lost out a bit. This allows high Levels to buy lower package and still actually get something out of it, they get extra credits, or if they really want, they get some weapons.

The same happens the other way round, people seem to assume that low levels are disabled to buy high packages. Beforehand if you were any level between 1 - 28 or so, then buying a 10k package just came with some items that were not useful at all. Now they can choose items that are more appropriate for their level, or credits if they don't want them.

If you bought a package before this, then I'm afraid you are out of luck. This feature was announced two weeks ago, so if you decided to buy Varium in those two weeks, then... If you bought a 10k package then you still got your promo item. If you bought another package, then don't worry, everyone here who hasn't been in your situation has decided that it's all pointless, so that's nothing to worry about. Of course, I don't mean that, but I'm making a point. There's people who have just bought packages and they feel like they've missed out on something, they're not going to do that if no change had been made to what you get, because what you get is more for your money. If you look at the numbers, for the most part, on most the packages, you now get more for your money. All be it a small or big bonus depending on the package, you now get more for what you pay for.

So what part can you complain about? You now get more for your money, whether you think this is good, it is still an improvement from the previous system. You now get more versatility with what you buy, and most of you are again looking from a slim perspective, looking at the small picture in front of you now, not the big picture that this paints in the future. We can now add packages for all levels, that any level can get with any package with enough keys. We can now add a wide range of things to the system that would never have been thought about before, a single level 34 Sword for 4 keys, may be a single bot for 3, and a single bike for 2; there's just so many ways we can play around with this that gives everyone a much greater chance to get items they want.

I understand where some of you are coming from, I know it may be a bit of a bummer not being able to save keys, or feeling like you've missed out because you just bought a package. What needs to be thought about is that there are people who buy the 10k package just for the promo - the top promo level items have always been with the 10k package and that package only. If you could buy two small packages and save the keys for Delta Knight or the Bionic Battle Gear, for much less, therefore exploiting the system and causing a huge disadvantage for those who buy the 10k package.

I think what's happening is a lot of you have seen this new system and are already taking it for granted, you're not appreciating the changes that have been made for your benefit. If you buy multiple 10k packages, this benefits you, you get more promo choices, choice of pure credits etc.; if you are a low level who wants to buy a big package, you now can get items that are actually useful for you and more credits than before; if you are high level who buys low Varium options, you now get the choice to actually get extra credits which are more use to you than the other packages are; we now get the versatility to introduce more packages for you to choose from; if you buy any package from now on, you now get some kind of added value, no matter how you look at it. This update to the system benefits everybody, it adds value to all packages, and no matter how you look at it, it is an improvement in pretty much every aspect from the old system. Pivotal nicely laid out the changes in what you get, and as you can see, it does show every package you get that added bonus with. Whether it's added credits, or versatility to choose, you benefit from this change. So instead of complaining for things like 'no benefit' etc. the facts prove you wrong, no matter how much you argue your point, you can't win. The facts are the facts and the facts are the truth to the matter, whether you like it or not. I know you may have wanted more change, but this is what you have been given, a system that benefits everyone and adds value to all packages. Now if you can't stack keys, tough, you still get more than you would have got before, be happy with it instead of being greedy and wanting even more.

This update took time and effort for the benefit of you guys, yes it's the Devs jobs to work on the game, but they worked almost all night on Thursday and all weekend last weekend, which is out of hours, they don't get paid for working those hours, but they still did it for you. Now if this is how you want to repay them for a beneficial system that beats the old system in every way, that they worked extremely hard to bring out for you. Then shame on you. I appreciate having opinions, and I am a strong believer in expressing opinions. But if you're going to sit there only looking at the negatives and just whining about this, then I don't see the value of that, since it isn't helpful for us. It instead just expresses your greed and emphasises it.




VIX -> RE: =ED= New Customization of Varium Packages (4/28/2012 8:46:54)

Great Job Practel ! Keep the good work up bro! ;)




Stabilis -> RE: =ED= New Customization of Varium Packages (4/28/2012 9:17:42)

I steadfastly agree with what Lycus said about how the system really improves our form of investments into EpicDuel.

And if you know me well or just moderately, I am one of those people who has been asking for this new flexibility in promotions. This is idea is definitely a + take it from me.




liy010 -> RE: =ED= New Customization of Varium Packages (4/28/2012 9:35:52)

I personally think the Delta Knight should cost less Keys or be in the Bio Package. Look. Delta Knight is 1925 Varium and 14,000 Credits and Bio Borg+Bionic BattleGear is about 3100 Varium...Farr?




Stabilis -> RE: =ED= New Customization of Varium Packages (4/28/2012 9:41:54)

Hmm, when you think about it, yeah, maybe 4 keys.




Fay Beeee -> RE: =ED= New Customization of Varium Packages (4/28/2012 9:48:12)

Guys it is all good for players.
You did not have a choice before. You bought which ever package you could. And you got exactly what it said on the tin.
Now when you buy, you can chose / select the weapons and stuff you want. The keys are like opening gift boxes only now you KNOW exactly what is in it. You are getting what you have chosen. I, personally think it is great for ALL that buy any packages. Enjoy. :)




Joe10112 -> RE: =ED= New Customization of Varium Packages (4/28/2012 15:51:19)

I think people who spent varium before this update are just a little durrr...

The 10k varium is totally fair. No changes to that. It's 10k Var + 15,000 Credts + Promo Item OR another 15,000 credits if you have the Promos already. That's good.

But for lower amounts of packages, basically they're doubling the amount of credits you get when buying Varium. I'm not complaining about the "loss" of 4,400 credits, it's more of a "Ah well, would have been nice to somehow get 4,400 credits. It's not that much, but it isn't that little either...". Just a sigh, and I know a lot of other people are probably sighing. I mean, apparently 1250 var comes with 2,200 free credits and 2 keys (another 2,200 credits). It used to be 1250 var and that's IT.

I appreciate the extra credit and customization package in ED, but just a little bummed that I bought 1250 varium before this update (a few months ago :P), and "lost" 4,400 credits. Maybe AQW should implement something like this.




ScarletReaper -> RE: =ED= New Customization of Varium Packages (4/28/2012 16:39:30)

I got 2500 varium about 2 weeks ago, so I missed out too. :( I feel your pain bro.




Shyteria -> RE: =ED= New Customization of Varium Packages (4/28/2012 18:59:06)

I'm waiting for the answer whether those who have bought beta/gamma/delta promos will get five keys free, which I think we should.




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