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The Incredible Hulk -> RE: =ED= December 11, 2012 - Not Yeti Yet (12/15/2012 5:57:09)

I have quite a few:
Massive Strike
Spread Fire
Chairmans Fury
Frostbite
Thorn assault
Infenral Spirit.


Does guns count also ? Like changing one of your guns into Spreadfire!!!
That would be awesome!



Hun Kingq -> RE: =ED= December 11, 2012 - Not Yeti Yet (12/15/2012 7:57:15)

One Winged Angel1357, those are special abilities and having a non Omega weapon being able to be equipped with the Omega weapon special abilities takes away the uniqueness of that weapon.

The specials of the weapons are what make the weapons unique, different, and rare. Allowing any weapon to be equipped with the same special abilities takes away the differing aspects of that weapon. Like the Stun Gun sets, they allow every sidearm to stun, then they need to rename it as Cannon or Blaster and re-categorize from rare to non-rare.

Having a basic club, staff, or claws with the same special abilities as the promo weapons is just not right and players will think why should we buy varium when I could just equip the weapon with the same special ability as the promo/Varium weapon with credits?

In the photo Titan mention "skill cores" not special abilities was that a typo? That is why the staff needs to elaborate.

It appears nothing will be done to the skill trees or skills and because of that they will be even bigger balance issues in Omega.

Eliminating weapons requirements is a start but what about the formulas?

How long will we have to what to see the changes made to the skills or the new classes get different new skills to set them apart from each other and the previous classes?



TRizZzCENTRINO -> RE: =ED= December 11, 2012 - Not Yeti Yet (12/15/2012 8:49:10)

ok guys here is link to charfade's new omega video from her twitter:
quote:

NEW EpicDuel Video!! Omega - Yeti for more? Frysteland and retraining features! http://t.co/Hvc3addK



RageSoul -> RE: =ED= December 11, 2012 - Not Yeti Yet (12/15/2012 8:58:57)

Agility's gone but the flip side is that HP/EP per point is reduced!



He Who Lurks -> RE: =ED= December 11, 2012 - Not Yeti Yet (12/15/2012 9:43:01)

^That means quicker battles ^.^

I'm not an avid ED player anymore but from what I'm seeing, EpicDuel has really turned themselves around into an even greater game!

P.S, does anyone know if upgrades will cost varium or credits or maybe even both[8|]?

EDIT: Also, will current NPCs be changed to fit this new system? Boss battles will be about 1.2 times harder if not(a hyperbole of course).



RageSoul -> RE: =ED= December 11, 2012 - Not Yeti Yet (12/15/2012 9:47:15)

I doubt that the current OPed builds will be nerfed though .



Ranloth -> RE: =ED= December 11, 2012 - Not Yeti Yet (12/15/2012 9:50:42)

Stats are also getting changed, every single one of them so since there's less stat points total, players will also deal less total damage. As said by Goony:
quote:

In regard to changing the way HP/EP works, there may be other changes (weapon damage) and agility wasn't popular. Remember less stats now ;)

Also base HP/EP will raise with the update so we won't start off with 4x/4x HP/EP. If they make it level scaled so there'll be minimum at each level that we will have automatically, it'll be even better.



RageSoul -> RE: =ED= December 11, 2012 - Not Yeti Yet (12/15/2012 9:54:21)

Ah , there goes my 140 HP TM build . But i just hope Bosses get changed as well ( imagine Hank dealing 20+ against people with very low HP ) .



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: =ED= December 11, 2012 - Not Yeti Yet (12/15/2012 10:15:21)

Time to rethink some builds like my caster build which has been the key feature in identifying me since Beta



Super Fat Man -> RE: =ED= December 11, 2012 - Not Yeti Yet (12/15/2012 10:19:06)

With only 1 hp and mp per point I hope we dont experience str builds. O_o eekkk.



skeletondude -> RE: =ED= December 11, 2012 - Not Yeti Yet (12/15/2012 10:31:57)

Omg! Agility removed, Something I wanted to hear yet again! [8D] The builds are storming in my head! [:D]



ND Mallet -> RE: =ED= December 11, 2012 - Not Yeti Yet (12/15/2012 10:35:00)

I remember talking with Illuminator about lowering the health and energy you got. I assumed it got the boot because of how much would need revamped to make it possible but I guess with Omega being huge already it's a perfect addition.



Drianx -> RE: =ED= December 11, 2012 - Not Yeti Yet (12/15/2012 11:44:27)

1 HP/point is no big deal, but 1 EP/point makes a huge difference. Nobody will afford 90+ energy pools anymore, and Atom Smasher will become effective again, and Reroute will become less effective. Caster mages will go down too.
Loving it.



Midnightsoul -> RE: =ED= December 11, 2012 - Not Quite Yeti (12/15/2012 12:56:43)

i actually would never mind the delay because I will be just enoying what I can. Plus, I don't play as much anymore so ED won't feel so old for me.

Anyways, if the Dark Yeti is coming with the Omega Obliterator, I might just go back to Cyber Hunter and revive that CyberUnion thing I had that one time.



FrostWolv -> RE: =ED= December 11, 2012 - Not Quite Yeti (12/15/2012 13:35:57)

Well with reduced increase of of hp/ep ..... reroute will have less advantage [:@] .... and cheap EMP and Atom Smash will hurt like hell .... entire Tech Mage will be effected

With less HP .... no of rounds will decrease ... thus the class who will attack most in early 3 rounds might win ... BM will love this update



Vypie -> RE: =ED= December 11, 2012 - Not Quite Yeti (12/15/2012 13:44:36)

Do you think they would change HP and EP point gain, to then not balance the rest?

You are thinking of only one aspect of the change. As game developers, they know to tweak the numbers to keep something from becoming OP.



FrostWolv -> RE: =ED= December 11, 2012 - Not Quite Yeti (12/15/2012 14:11:58)

@ above

I remember when they did stuff like introducing OP gamma bot and then finally de-buffing it after 8 months if i m nt wrong

I remember when they did stuff like new OP TLM class which stay there OPed for a year then they were finally nerfed



Ranloth -> RE: =ED= December 11, 2012 - Not Quite Yeti (12/15/2012 14:19:04)

Yes one-off changes. You do realise they are working on Omega non-stop for weeks now and pushed it back? Don't compare ONE change to whole game overhaul which changes how stats work, changes to some skills, changes to enhancements, changes to all the items. If they are taking care of everything, they wouldn't be stupid to leave something like that out.

Common sense hurts nowadays. <.<



FrostWolv -> RE: =ED= December 11, 2012 - Not Quite Yeti (12/15/2012 14:28:25)

its just hope reroute functions well in omega [&:]

and the other side is that i hope they do change their experimental introductions if it disturbs the balance (unlike what they did before)



Drianx -> RE: =ED= December 11, 2012 - Not Quite Yeti (12/15/2012 14:59:16)

quote:

Do you think they would change HP and EP point gain, to then not balance the rest?


Balance was never achieved in EpicDuel, and it will never be, but that's not the main problem.

The main problem are people obsessed with winning every single fight, who are afraid to experiment, to have fun, to sincerely congratulate the one who beats them.

I stopped taking overall class balance in EpicDuel too seriously, because I realized how we players are extremely far from the reality, although every single one of us is convinced he knows best what is best for the game. That is vanity.



Midnightsoul -> RE: =ED= December 11, 2012 - Not Quite Yeti (12/15/2012 15:19:42)

Why don't they just make agility lvl scaled?! -____-



Rayman -> RE: =ED= December 11, 2012 - Not Quite Yeti (12/15/2012 17:36:53)

Sounds Great and ppl why will EMP Hurt that much? We are getting more starting HP/EP. We gotta wait omega to see how it will work anyway.



Wootz -> RE: =ED= December 11, 2012 - Not Quite Yeti (12/15/2012 21:32:53)

I'm interested to See how this stat revamp woll happen. (Must be a revamp, because just tapping Health & Energy would cause major imbalance)



Yo son -> RE: =ED= December 11, 2012 - Not Yeti Yet (12/15/2012 21:46:27)

quote:

Cardboard armor reminds me of Tesla, which was the byproduct of Titans breakfast burrito wrapped in tin foil and expanded to be shown in all its...er...glory.


Prophet


Yes and the massive lag the tesla armor caused can be related to the massive dump titian took afterwards :D



goldslayer1 -> RE: =ED= December 11, 2012 - Not Yeti Yet (12/15/2012 21:57:45)

glad to know my enemies will have less HP to take down with a strength build.

Heres my thoughts on it

in my idea, no changes or revamp to stats or reducing stats is required. (less work for them to do)



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