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2/18/2012 18:49:34   
ND Mallet
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@trans It's not like the bot is unbelievably strong or anything. Chances are that by the time you manage to level up to a point where all your credits aren't going in to upgrading your weapons and armors to stay alive you may have already won either bot in the drops. Why would a pricing change do anything to help balance? It would lower the people who get it at a time but several will get a free bot if they farm for the credit price anyways. Increasing the cost will probably save credits in the long run actually. Armor should be the most expensive gear in the game because it is used every battle save under rare conditions where your enemy is all one damage type and doesn't affect your armor. You can skip out on the other items in a battle. You hardly ever skip out on armor.
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2/18/2012 18:55:23   
Ranloth
Banned


Well I only moved pricing topic because Assault Bot costs 2K Credits less but 1250 Varium. Of course we used that Varium, or got the free drop, to gain the advantage but it could be unfair that 2K Credits = 1250 Varium. I do get the reason why it's that way, I know it's an advantage and don't go against Bot's price being 14K (even better, my alts if won't get by drop, they can get this Bot). I'd say it's very easy to get and effect is a bit too strong; effect being for all Bots released.
80% debuff is overall a bit too much for both Assaults and Azrael. Lowering all of them to about 60% would be a lot better as builds wouldn't suffer as much from Azrael nor Assault countering almost fully, Smoke and Malf (I find myself using Bot over skills (defensive) in most of the cases).

So people's reasoning might come from effect being too strong for Credit-only Bot. Effects are overall a bit too strong which is the issue, overall this Bot is perfect for everyone really. Who said Variums cannot use non-Varium Bot? If you don't want advantage, you're free to get this bot.
AQ Epic  Post #: 102
2/18/2012 19:57:03   
dont give up
Member

i agree no matter how low the prize of rusted assault bot gamma will always be the best one
Post #: 103
2/18/2012 19:59:03   
Algorithm
Member

Lol people don't use the assault bot for it's damage meaning that the "2" damage they reduced the rusted one by didn't do anything :P . The credit price is way to low for it to be that powerful.
Post #: 104
2/18/2012 20:04:16   
Ranloth
Banned


Price has nothing to do with it. Bots overall are too strong, it lost -2 damage due to Varium advantage. It could've had lower debuff % and same attack as Assault Bot but Staff could've done it other way.
Effect will be the same unless they plan to re-balance all the Bots. Simply read few posts above as of why.
AQ Epic  Post #: 105
2/18/2012 20:08:50   
Ashari
Inconceivable!


Buying Varium is meant to give you an advantage, in and out of battle. That's the point of upgrades, but it doesn't mean that non-Varium players should be unable to compete at all. In fact, we don't want the competitive nature of PvP to be ruined by having too large of a power gap between free and paying players. The Rusted Assault Bot gives non-Varium players their first easily obtainable robot (relative to the original Assault Bot anyway). However, Varium players still have the advantage in the numbers and diversity of the robots available to them. Sometimes the Varium advantage will come from that diversity, rather than from bigger numbers.

You can expect free players to have the Rusted Assault Bot now, so you can also adjust your strategy to deal with it. Free players on the other hand don't know whether to expect a Assault Bot, Gamma Bot, Yeti or Azrael's Borg. They have a lot more threats from bots to deal with.

With that being said, this thread has unfortunately degraded into a pretty shameful showing. I've seen a good bit of bashing both free and paid players despite cleaning up this thread multiple times, so I'm locking this thread. Everyone deserves basic courtesy, whether they have supported AE through purchases or not, and some of you have forgotten about this in your posts. Please do not remake this thread.

Locked.

< Message edited by Ashari -- 2/18/2012 20:11:00 >
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