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5/7/2011 21:15:36   
truc
Member

Being here in alpha, I have had a lot of experience in this game.
I miss the old part of this game, the PvP AND creative builds.
I remember when TestBuild had a MAX FC build 4 double strike Max Hybrid 4 bezerk and a lvl 2 artillery.
Now it's dumb bounties with str almost every fight.
I can't stand to see the future of ED...
Now that non variums have a huge disadvantage in this game.
We still have our +6 armors with 5 enhances when varium already have a +9 with 8 enhance.
High level'd non varium players also get about nothing or a few weps every 3 months.
I'm not sure why non varium's don't get as much weapons as we used to.
I would like to see non varium +7 armors with a +8 enhance spot.
Change the credits to 12k rather then 14 +k which varium players pay less credits for their weapons, besides the gamma bot.
I'm not happy at all seeing how non varium players get treated.
Can't we get as much weapons or almost every update.
Maybe if this happens people would enjoy ED more rather then hate threads and negative feedback towards everyone.
I am just one person saying this but I'm hurt in a way.
WE HAVE TO beg making posts like this wasting my own time when I'm still being ignored.
PLEASE listen after all the posts I created to take my opinion and agree.
Even my friend chaos1x agrees that this game has changed completely...
Please devs, admins listen to this post I don't want to waste my time making more posts.

Thank you everyone if you read this...
~trucos
Epic  Post #: 1
5/7/2011 21:23:20   
pokepwner
Member

Most do agree agree that there's a WIDE gap betwwen Varium and non varium.The game DOES have good stuff for non-variums(case and point that lovely energy zooka sold at Bazaar) but most of it can be considered outdated by today's standard or a seasonal rare.As for the stat gap, good luck devs with closing that.Also thanks to power hours it's much easier to farm credits as a free player.
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5/7/2011 21:26:45   
truc
Member

I think power hours were for people in Europe and Asian because in U.S.A I don't get double credits only like at 7:00.
I still want devs/admins to listen to this post, read carefully and implement it hopefully. :(
Epic  Post #: 3
5/7/2011 21:39:10   
EDluyil
Member

i dislike how paying for ED is like Pay To Win. Houses, house items, cooler hairstyles, bikes, class change and name change were some good features that can earn ED some money. One destroyer was enchancements because it made the gap between varium and non varium waaay TOO big.

Seriously lets compare two sidearms. Plasma ACP and Hypertalon. Plasma acp = 18 stats + 4 varium enchancements = 22 stats. Hypertalon = 10 stats + 2 credit enchancements = 12 stats(I said 2 enchancements cause an average player cant afford more than two credits enchancements)
So 10 stat gap... and thats only the sidearm...

Varium was supposed to give you the edge in battle. Now (without luck factors) a good varium player will never be beaten by a non varium player. Is epicduel a F2P or P2P?

Btw i think that no matter how much we complain, the devs wont listen.

Now to summerise what I just said, the gap between non varium and varium players is TOO big.
And btw I am a varium player and I actually think its unfair.

< Message edited by EDluyil -- 5/7/2011 21:42:38 >
Epic  Post #: 4
5/7/2011 21:56:16   
xxmirxx
Member
 

We all want beta times return it use to mean something when no varium players won 2vs2 or 1vs1 achievement. Ilike to see class change remove off game and then make way beta times were.
AQ Epic  Post #: 5
5/7/2011 23:22:51   
Wraith
Member
 

I wish it was Beta! From all you guys reminiscing, it sound very good. I also want those shiny Beta Weapons.

EDLuyil: Cool stuff is for Varium only, for a simple reason.We use real money to support the game. The more you pay, the more you get. Bye now.
AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 6
5/8/2011 0:00:21   
Thylek Shran
Member

quote:

Is epicduel a F2P or P2P?

We all know the answer. We non varium are just the meatballs for the
paying players so that they can think that the are uber. They even call
us noobs because they are that themself in RL.

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DF Epic  Post #: 7
5/8/2011 0:08:24   
Lectrix
Member

I agree; Non-Varium players are far behind (well, I'd say Mercs are doing ok...). The last time non-Variums got a new Weapon was... what? Two months ago? And I can't even remember the last time we got a non-Varium Sidearm...

Really, the Devs should take a look at this: http://www.epicduelwiki.com/index.php/Weapons

ALL Level 32 & Level 33 Weapons are Rare. There are hardly any non-Rare & non-Varium Weapons at Level 31. I, for one, am in dire need of a better Sidearm. I'm sure that all Non-Varium Players can agree.
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5/8/2011 0:13:08   
Wraith
Member
 

Thylek Shran: You basically called all Varium players noobs in real life.

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5/8/2011 0:25:13   
edwardvulture
Member

Off Topic observation: Seems you are copying my threads lol....
On topic:^lololololololololol they are jk xD
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 10
5/8/2011 0:54:45   
xxmirxx
Member
 

Lord Sinastr he wasn't call you noob or hint that.
AQ Epic  Post #: 11
5/8/2011 1:14:26   
Luna_moonraider
Member

@ lectrix
mercs are not doing ok we get trashed too basically all non variums are stupid and the devs do not want to care bout us and they will just lock all these type of topics because they say it is "varium" vs "non varium" and that is not allowed blah blah blah.

the devs think that credits will help use non var will qoute wat NW said in some thread which he locked.

quote:

I think everything the OP discussed has been discussed in my enormous post on the subject of Varium vs. Non-Varium. Since it's impossible to have a topic like this without flaming, and the dead horse has been beaten to a pulp, so Imma lock it.

Also, keep in mind that with recent releases, it's now possible for all players to earn double credits during power hour as well as credit bonuses from quests. Plus, with Varium sellback, it's even possible to turn certain arcade prizes into a tidy sum of Varium. Rest assured, there will be even more free ways to earn credits and premium items in future releases.


NW thinks that credits can help non varium hahaha is that a joke. credits from misson are too little. power hour lolz i call powr hour laggy hour and pour hour is not so perfect for every1. and can we win all the battles during power hour.

more quotes from oure beloved dev

quote:

If you refuse to buy or spend Varium, that's your choice. We cannot force anyone to buy anything and have no desire to do so. We want people to have fun and enjoy the features we create and the atmosphere we all contribute to. If you never spend another dollar on the game, your character will remain, still completely able to battle players, NPCs, and participate in Factions. In fact, there are many players who duel all the way up to the level cap without spending a single penny on the game. However, when you incite other players to stop buying, that's when we have an issue.


How can we have fun if almost every feature u make costs $ and non variums are getting kicked around like a ball of yarn.

quote:

To those of you who read this and are still committed to the belief that Titan and myself are completely out of touch with the EpicDuel community and only interested in money, all I can say is if EpicDuel makes you so unhappy, maybe you should stop playing. Life is too short to get worked up over a browser game that you evidently stopped enjoying a long time ago. If you decide to change your mind, your characters will still be waiting for you.


asking us to leave the gam if we are not happy. so just leave if u r not happy leave this game. calling all non variums pls leave this game because it is become p2p. trust me i rather go back to playing aqw now yes the staff there are much kinder and the updates are great. thye are kind to f2p and they make p2p there happy. IMO the ed team really needs to learn from them.

more issues

1) bagspace

yes non varium or varium people with just default bagspace cant do all the new mission if the have used up all the space with seasonal rare(no1 likes selling thier seasonal rares). recently me and one of my faction mate u know the non varium who is umm first in 2v2 all times,New hope had a decent chat. she say that she cant do th new missons because she feel reluctant to sell the seasonal rares she have collected. the red gem and golden bullets do not make things better for her because u cant get rid of them once u have them in your bag. in the end she sold away some of her rares to just complete the new mission. she also said that she think the devs will never increase the bag slots. we chat bout balance how battle are going ect ect. the point i want to make here is bagslots are not enuf for non variums and variums which have default bagslots. alos to make things worse non variums cant get the treasure hunter badge because we do not have enuf bag slots. where is the credut option for bag slot increasing that nw promised. yes he said it on the discussion thread but i cant find the discussion thread for
Gamma Evolution 1.1.3c - Friday, January 21th, 2011. so i think the might have deleted it so no prove but oh well.

2)brainwashing

woohoo this feature make varium player earn win very fast making it harder for non variums to win 1v1 daily. when was the last time a non avrium wan 1v1 medal hmm i think it was granade launcher a lvl 33 merc 1st non var to reach 33. with this update i dun think any non varium can win 1v1 daily basically it is impossible for a non varium to win 1v1 daily now.

3)2v2

yes as u all know 2v2 is a unbalanced place. all u can see are oped build, partner dc, non variums getting trashed by 2 variums and hmm afk partners. basically non variums get trashed easily by 2 varium player.

4) stat inflation

ok lets compare me and one of my faction mate. here is a screen shot of me and here is another screen shot of my faction mate cookie.

my screeny---------> http://i56.tinypic.com/1ysw41.png
cookies screeny------------> http://i53.tinypic.com/1415tli.png


ok if u did bother to click u can see cookie has 110 support and 4 focus. a standard build for all variums is 5 focus or 4 focus and spam 1 stat. while on the othere hand look at my screeny yes i have 120 support in total(i know that is sooo much support but basically im forced to abuse a stat because there is no more focus added to normal dmg and there are no all credits non varium robo) and no focus at all. 110 and 4 focus for varium and 120 support and no focus(110 support and 2 focus if u remove 10 points from support) same support but lesser focus wat does this mean this mean varium have way too much points and non variums have way too little and mind u i have full enhancements for allmost all my weps except for my zooka which need 1 more point only and soon i will enh it when i have collected enuf credits. cookie also has full enhancements. so varium fully enh is totally hard to beat even a non varium enh do not have enuf stats to beat them.

well that is all i have to say. i have complained, talked, discuss but the devs seem to just ignore us non variums all i m asking for is fairness where is the fairness and why are the non var being treated so badly by the devs. i just wondering wat the devs are trying to achieve by treating us non variums like the scum of ed.

~luna moonfang 13


< Message edited by Luna_moonraider -- 5/8/2011 1:31:25 >


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AQW Epic  Post #: 12
5/8/2011 1:20:59   
Lectrix
Member

@Above: IMO, Non-Varium Mercs are still doing the best out of all Non-Varium Players.

Though I do agree with some of your other points.
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5/8/2011 1:32:51   
Luna_moonraider
Member

^ that only applies in 2v2 but 2v2 is randon 2v2 is about luck 1v1 non varium merc are getting creamed.
AQW Epic  Post #: 14
5/8/2011 2:10:34   
truc
Member

Address my ideas to the devs guys especially if your non varium and want this post to succeed.
Epic  Post #: 15
5/8/2011 2:15:31   
EDluyil
Member

@Lord Sinastr
I do agree varium items are cool, but the gap between non varium and varium is too big, sometimes more than 50 stats apart. And dont forget I'm a varium player with some "cool" stuff, and I am concerned.




Anyways, the Devs really need to make the gap smaller, otherwise non vairum players will soon be extinct and ED will be a P2P.

< Message edited by EDluyil -- 5/8/2011 2:17:27 >
Epic  Post #: 16
5/8/2011 2:40:29   
Shadronica
Member

Nice point you brought up Luna about not having enough bag space to be able to do the missions too. I hadn't thought about the struggle non varium players would have with bag space.

I do think that the developers should consider more non varium weapons so they can experiment a little more with their builds and either grant everyone some extra bag space or allow us to buy a certain amount of bag space for a reasonable credit only price. (5 bag space for 500 credits extra bag space could be 1500 credits for each slot to 10 bag space and 12,000 credits for each slot up to 15).

I am a varium player but I do support non varium players getting extra bag space and more weapon choice. Perhaps even as my friend Soliqe has mentioned giving the non varium players some of the varium weapons that are rarely used by any varium player. He posted a lot of obsolete varium weapons from the EpicDuel Wiki that would save the developers from having to draw up new weapons.





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5/8/2011 3:07:02   
xxmirxx
Member
 

I just want good weps all non varium weps suks and stats as well.
AQ Epic  Post #: 18
5/8/2011 3:09:22   
DillBagel
Member

Why were free players forgotten? Because we joined the Battleon Forums and all of AE's elitist players joined. When they saw "Gasp, players that don't pay like us can win!" they lined up at the door to complain. You can directly blame the forum merge in my opinion.

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5/8/2011 6:04:39   
Luna_moonraider
Member

hmm maybe we should bug the devsand start spamming pms to them hehehehe just an idea lolz. they might hear or at least see wat use non variums are feeling. As Soliqe said in some other post quate:the Developers are a short PM away. let the spamming begain lolz just jking since the devs would most likely ignore this thread why not pm them your views instead.
AQW Epic  Post #: 20
5/8/2011 6:06:21   
goldslayer1
Member

@luna
i believe spamming with PMs is the reason why titan disabled his pms.
or so i heard.
AQW Epic  Post #: 21
5/8/2011 6:11:42   
Tiago X
Member

Luna: I don't think it wold be a good idea. *stares at the ED banhammer* Nice stats :o
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5/8/2011 6:18:21   
Luna_moonraider
Member

@ Tiago X
lolz wat stat is it 10000000000000000000000 suppport. hmm was joking when i said spam the devs with pms.

@ goldslayer1

maybe his inbox is full that is why people cant pm him. there is always charfade,NW and cindy. and yeah i was joking bout the spamming part just saying that some1 should pm the devs and explain to them what non variums feel bout the updates. since these treads would most likely be ignored
AQW Epic  Post #: 23
5/8/2011 6:36:24   
Banir
Member

Before Gamma, practically every time weapons were released both varium weapons and non varium weapons were offered. Back then it was a problem of the ratio of varium to non varium items. It was generally 4 to 1 or so, which was horrible.
But now, we get almost nothing. Its like they just forgot to bring some new weapons in. But really, they have been purposely denying us of any new equipment so that the varium players have more of an "incentive"(IE: unfair advantage) to play.
The main problem here is enhancements though. Before, both types of players could buy weapons. But close to no non varium players could actually afford enhancements. The price cut was a step in the right direction but the cut was just a joke. 30% off 100,000 credits is still an insurmountable amount when you have 4+ items to upgrade.

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Epic  Post #: 24
5/8/2011 6:47:28   
Tiago X
Member

@luna: I knew you were ;]
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