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5/12/2011 13:02:34   
Remorse
Member

Mercs have become too strong in 1v1 since the recent stat progression nerf as their 5 focus medium high tech and support build is almost a never fail, i have thought of every build in the book to try and counter this one but unlike all other overpowered builds of ED's history this one has almost no weaknesses ,if played right. sup Mercs wre useless without mana, heal loopers wre usless without thre heal, but tech focus mercs are almost unbeatable in a fair fight.

Not only that but mercs have also bean dominant in 2v2 for as long as i can think of , and the new 2v1 battle mode ,it's obvious that mercs will dominate that aswell as i doubt the merc's opponents will hit anything other than 3..

So i say it's about time u nerf them once and for all,

P.S If anyone finds a BH build that beats smart varium focus mercs without luck please tell me im really interested to know.


EDIT: Alot of posts In this discussion have mentioned valid points such as thre is no way to nerf them without affecting us all, so how about mages and BH get an buff, I say we should get an Improvement in our attack skills such as Plasma bolt, Overload, Stun grenade, Cheap shot, MUlti Shot, Supercharge, etc. The reason for this is because the main diffrnce between mercs and the other classes is that merc's attack skills are actully useful In battle eg. artillery strike is powerful and reliable and is used well in 1v1 and 2v2,

This will also bring creativty back into the game because im sure mages and BH are sick of the same old builds which we have to use in order for a reasonable chance of survival. IMagine caster Mages REBOURNE :O
Im not even a mage but i am looking foward in fighting powerful caster mages agian.

SO OVERALL. MERCS can't complain because thre not gettin "nerfed" , The other clases will have useless skills become useful, hopefully mages will be up to the same standards as the other clases, and mercs will able to have chalengeing fights rather than be frusterated to death over luck, So everyone wins. PLZ IMPLANT IT :P

CONTINUE DISCUSSION ON EDIT.

< Message edited by Remorse -- 5/13/2011 0:15:51 >
Epic  Post #: 1
5/12/2011 13:45:03   
Light Stridr
Member

We all know mercs are too strong and the devs don't feel like fixing it since they put stuff like fame first. The upcoming 2v1, however, is the best release for months now.
AQW Epic  Post #: 2
5/12/2011 14:01:12   
Ranloth
Banned


 Oh come on, just end these topics already!
TMs are underpowered but we still manage to play and win against different builds and classes AND we don't moan that much..
AQ Epic  Post #: 3
5/12/2011 14:06:02   
Epic Pwnser
Member

No more nerfing.
You can always combat multi people with defense matrix.
Or atk them and make them heal (TM), then use assimilate.

Seriously, we have had TONS of NERFS already in these few updates.
/facepalm.
Another TM strategy for tech mercs is to malf them, assimlatate, then beat the living stuff out of them before they kill you first.

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Epic  Post #: 4
5/12/2011 14:47:37   
TurkishIncubus
Member

Thats not because of Mercs , Gamma bot is too strong it need a nerf. It allows tank and strong atacks in same time , ridiculus and it require no strategy make all stats 45 than use this robot==>robot==>aux==>gun(heal if needed) than start over again.

:S:S:S , i cant recognize this game , where is the creative and strategic builds???

The build wins 5 focus Merc is 5 focus Hunter , it all depend on luck if you block you will win if not merc will.

< Message edited by TurkishIncubus -- 5/12/2011 14:49:51 >

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Epic  Post #: 5
5/12/2011 14:50:54   
delta blitz
Member

Havent mercs been nerf enough. They took away from our support damage and they lower our max hybrid. There isnt almost anything left to take from us.
AQ AQW Epic  Post #: 6
5/12/2011 14:55:33   
hardcore59
Member

they dont need nerf others need buff

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AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 7
5/12/2011 14:56:50   
Matgon
Member

quote:

They dont need a nerf, the other classes need a buff.




< Message edited by Matgon -- 5/12/2011 14:57:03 >
DF AQW Epic  Post #: 8
5/12/2011 15:16:47   
Tiago X
Member

We're not OP. Most of us rely on luck.
DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 9
5/12/2011 15:20:33   
8x
Member

Whenever I use "5 focus medium high tech and support build" I get my ass kicked by 5 focus bhs or high strength bhs...

< Message edited by 8rlx0 -- 5/12/2011 15:21:21 >

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Epic  Post #: 10
5/12/2011 17:18:49   
Bunshichi
Member

^ above

same happens to me....like 1 build mercs use can pwn eveything in sight -_-
MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 11
5/12/2011 17:30:34   
IsaiahtheMage
Member

Enough already. No more nerf. Havent we been nerfed enough? Our hybrid armor,artilery strike, and many of our OPed builds been nerfed and you want more? No. You wanna nerf us out of existence. I am sick of nerfing. Buffing,removing stat require and returning skills to original way is the only solution. Nerfing is a fail idea. It only results in people whinning and argueing and flaming about being weakened.
AQW Epic  Post #: 12
5/12/2011 18:37:33   
jegaggin
Member

STOP ASKING FOR MERCS TO BE NERFED WE ARE NOT OP -.- unless you are a merc and play like a merc and fight both TMs and BHs dont tell us we are OP -.-

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AQ AQW Epic  Post #: 13
5/12/2011 18:44:18   
Light Stridr
Member

Mercs are OP and here's why.
I was fighting in 2v2 with myself, as a non-var merc, against a non-var merc 1 level higher than me, and a var TM, at 1 level lower than me.
My partner was killed very quickly because the lag meant he couldn't heal.
I went on to kill both of them, after I was on 3/4 health and they were both around 3/4 to full health when my partner was killed.
How is that not OP?
AQW Epic  Post #: 14
5/12/2011 18:59:40   
jegaggin
Member

depenss on whats level's they were becasue if they are in the 20-25 range. I do that all the time (with my alt). And if u had had a bh u would have been able to either effectively tank or blood lust heal. and if u were a mage maybe you could have malfed and then kept on healing slowly killing them.
AQ AQW Epic  Post #: 15
5/12/2011 19:04:44   
IsaiahtheMage
Member

@Jeggain We are OPed. That is why we dominate 2 vs 2 and cant be tooken down in our almost unbeatable tank builds. But we dont need a nerf.
AQW Epic  Post #: 16
5/12/2011 19:08:33   
jegaggin
Member

In 2v2 we have more advantage but we also were the first to a req for a skill and no other multi has a req.
AQ AQW Epic  Post #: 17
5/12/2011 19:22:00   
IsaiahtheMage
Member

Because our multi is OPed. The other multis can be debuffed and dont ignore any form of defence. Our multi use to be a ignore 20% of defence,improves with support(Cant be debuffed) and it had no req that is why they nerfed because it was a advantage over other classes. I dont agree on nerfing I think they should've just buffed the other classes multi. But that is why people say where Oped and I agree.
AQW Epic  Post #: 18
5/12/2011 19:43:31   
xxmirxx
Member
 

 I think mages need to be nerf were just way to good. PLEASE DEV'S NERF MAGES WE NEED IT AGAIN
AQ Epic  Post #: 19
5/12/2011 20:08:14   
IsaiahtheMage
Member

@xxmirvxx Your being sarcastic right? Right?!
AQW Epic  Post #: 20
5/12/2011 20:10:11   
Wraith
Member
 

 I just beat one yesterday with 59/91 health remaining, I used 5 focus hunter. The trick is to have high support and smoke. You will deflect and block the whole way :D
AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 21
5/12/2011 20:39:52   
xxmirxx
Member
 
quote:

@xxmirvxx Your being sarcastic right? Right?!


NO I AM NOT
AQ Epic  Post #: 22
5/12/2011 20:46:00   
Competition
Member

Really ..? EMP 'nade + Max SA = Dead 5-Focus merc.
DF AQW Epic  Post #: 23
5/12/2011 20:50:23   
endtime
Member

I play a high level of every class and I know that mercenaries are no longer overpowered. The most overpowered class is the Bounty Hunter.

People complain about a +5 mercenary, but +5 bounty hunters are much stronger. In a match between a +5 Mercenary and +5 Bounty Hunter, the hunter would have a much higher chance of winning.

Here are the BH's two significant advantages:
1. Shadow Arts means they block more than the merc
2. EMP, if a mercenary is EMPd he has no more versatility, whereas the BH can still gain HP from Bloodlust.

< Message edited by endtime -- 5/12/2011 21:09:44 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 24
5/12/2011 20:56:31   
Wraith
Member
 

 ^LOL, I ground down his hp with 8-9 and 17's while he hit 30s. My EMP was my only advantage. AND I DO NOT HAVE SA!

And you can't say they aren't OP, if if I didn't get that crit I woulda lost. As it turned out, I critted 51 and healed a bunch, he rage botted and I was left with 3 hp, I healed and then blocked him (Smoke) and finished with rage bot, healing.

< Message edited by Lord Sinastr -- 5/12/2011 20:58:09 >
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