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2/17/2013 21:34:05   
Dual Thrusters
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Every other class gets some goodies after using their ultimate attack. Mercs and Mages steal rage+health. Bounties gain tons of health. Whereas with a cyber after using massacre you will be crippled with barely any energy left and probably half your health is gone too. Cybers need something to get back on their feet, because they will surely lose against other "ultimate attack builds" with their abilities to cripple you.
MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 1
2/17/2013 21:39:01   
xPl0opyx
Member

no... massacre is already OP
Epic  Post #: 2
2/17/2013 21:40:37   
Dual Thrusters
Member

EMP grenade: Problem Solved
MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 3
2/17/2013 21:42:03   
xPl0opyx
Member

don't forget plasma armor...
Epic  Post #: 4
2/17/2013 21:46:57   
lolo666
Member

Ehm.. Dont forget if people will remove the MP by using their skills, they still got a skill to regenerate MP back which you can use in unlimited times.. Aka : Static Charge..
AQ AQW Epic  Post #: 5
2/17/2013 21:53:10   
Dual Thrusters
Member

^totally depends on opponents res

anyway im just saying that cyber is probably the weakest class for an ultimate build(not cyber in general) because it dishes out damage at the cost of basically all your energy so if your opponent is still alive, you're probably screwed

< Message edited by Noobernaut Fusion -- 2/17/2013 21:55:00 >
MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 6
2/18/2013 1:25:57   
rayniedays56
Member

This is why massacre is so darned powerful./

It does more damage but is SUPPOSED to offer no more damage.



*glares at BH's*


Maybe if they nerfed the damage and added 20% HP regain *not affected by BL* it would be alright.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 7
2/18/2013 2:02:27   
Mother1
Member

@ raynie

I doubt it highly. Massacre was already nerfed just recently, and guess what it is still OP. Plus not that we have this new promo out anyone with it will use it to counter those players who use energy drains leaving them wide open.

Besides a 3 percent nerf to Massacre's HP gain for BH would only take away 1 hp at best or not make a difference at all.
Epic  Post #: 8
2/18/2013 2:11:16   
rayniedays56
Member

@mother 1

I was suggesting the nerf as to people whining about *CH's haz no benefit* and I was pointing out that since massacre does high damage, it is considered an extra benefit :)


However, nothing is implausible about nerfs/buffs in ED.

Just a difference of 1 HP, yes on the BH part, but this would also happen with CH's, where the extra 8-11 HP may be a game changer.


My thoughts?


Massacre changes to:

Level 1: 40%
Level 2: 50%
Level 3: 60%
Level 4: 70%
Level 5: 80%
Level 6: 90%
Level 7: 98%
Level 8: 106%
Level 9: 112%
Level 10: 118%

But now offers a 25% life steal, just 2% more than BL offers at max (1 HP?) but a nice 8-11 HP for CH's who would use massacre.

This will NOT stack with BL.



AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 9
2/18/2013 9:14:22   
ED Prince of Shadows
Member

^But the BHs suffer a nerf with no buff, make it a fixed damage scale with rage steal:


Energy Required:
Level 1: 32
Level 2: 35
Level 3: 38
Level 4: 41
Level 5: 44
Level 6: 47
Level 7: 50
Level 8: 53
Level 9: 56
Level 10: 59
Weapon Required: Wrist blades
Stat Required: 24 Support (at lvl 1)
Level Required: 10
Improves With: Strength (+1 damage at 21 Strength; +1 damage per 4 Strength after)
Warm Up: 3
Cool Down: 3

This is just taken from the wiki for surgical strike, I made it scale a little faster with strength (+1 for every 4 points) because tech has better benefits overall. This way massacre won't get out of control in the higher levels and functions like the other ultimates.

< Message edited by ED Prince of Shadows -- 2/18/2013 9:17:03 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 10
2/18/2013 12:41:54   
Remorse
Member

At least you can use malfunction to buff the damage.


What about a blood mage's supercharge??

All they get is 7% (with max BL) life steal bonus and a small res ignore.


You should be thankful massacre is actually useful for CHs, how many blood mages do you see with supercharge?


Epic  Post #: 11
2/19/2013 15:44:12   
ED Prince of Shadows
Member

^I saw a BM 5 focus tech abuse build that used SC well.
AQW Epic  Post #: 12
2/19/2013 15:57:55   
Hun Kingq
Member

An if you use an EMP that takes away 49 points of energy how well will that 5 focus Blood Mage will use that Super Charge well with no energy or not enough energy. Well tell us how well?
Epic  Post #: 13
2/19/2013 16:07:50   
ED Prince of Shadows
Member

Generator? It's not like builds should be able to win against every other build.
AQW Epic  Post #: 14
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