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7/14/2013 18:59:39   
AQWorldsFarmer
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Everyone is complaining about the stat abusers.

But if we get rid of the stat abusers, all we'll have is focus focus focus. In a way stat abusers actually bring variety to the game.
Why don't we make robots that improve with different stats?

For example, the current robots increase with focus and tech

maybe we can make some with focus and dex, focus and str, and focus and support.

I feel this would bring a bit for variety to the game because all the focus builds wont focus around tech.

Your thoughts?
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7/14/2013 19:09:47   
The Incredible Hulk
Banned

 

 I have made this suggestion in early Omega; and you know what....people didn't even support.

Although I support! ;D
Epic  Post #: 2
7/14/2013 19:33:27   
  Exploding Penguin
Moderator


 Sounds very interesting.

I agree about your comments on stat abuse; it brings more fun into the game than it does problems. However, while I do suggest bots increasing with other stats, they should all still increase with focus as well. This would also possibly require a buff to tech since deflections are weaker than blocks and they have a lower max value, but it was compensated for with increased bot damage.
Epic  Post #: 3
7/14/2013 19:35:16   
AQWorldsFarmer
Member

^ I did say they should all still increase with focus. :P

Edit:

This would buff cyber hunter's focus becuase the plasma armor kinda makes it hard to focus while also keeping the defenses level. Overall, buffing cyberhunter which everyone is saying is underpowered (which i dont agree with).

This would bring EXTREME variety to bounty hunter, becuase bounty could take advantage of all 4 robot types.

This would decrease the amount of abusers becuase some would switch to a more reliable build (one of the focus types)

Bloodmage would finally be able to take advantage of focus without having to use the support focus builds, they can now use strength focus!



< Message edited by AQWorldsFarmer -- 7/14/2013 19:39:05 >
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7/14/2013 19:38:52   
  Exploding Penguin
Moderator


 Oh, sorry, I was kinda multitasking :P

Anyways, I would really like this in-game because, as I said before, it would be quite interesting.
Epic  Post #: 5
7/14/2013 19:40:01   
Mother1
Member

Several bots are universal with their effects (meaning focus doesn't make their effects weaker or stronger) In fact every bot that has an effect (poison bots excluded) that isn't pure offense are universal. Not everyone uses a bot for offense but the effect such as the Assault bot. just as useful to a no focus player as it is a focus 5 tech abuser (effect wise.
Epic  Post #: 6
7/14/2013 19:41:25   
  Exploding Penguin
Moderator


 @Mother1: I actually made a suggestion a while back for making focus slightly increase the secondary skills of bots so all bots, not just offensive bots, would have some relation to focus.
Epic  Post #: 7
7/14/2013 19:45:56   
Mother1
Member

I remember that topic Exploding, however I didn't agree with it since some bots on it got side increases while others got nerfed before they got buffed. I remember exactly which ones would reap the most benefits for your suggestion change and the ones that would get nerfed more then buffed as well.

< Message edited by Mother1 -- 7/14/2013 19:46:14 >
Epic  Post #: 8
7/14/2013 19:48:46   
AQWorldsFarmer
Member

Mother, do the poison bots and assault add variety to the game? true, they bring a few uber-tankers into the game, but thats just a few builds. Imagine the possiblilities with this idea.

people can be a 5 focus and still be extremely offensive (as oppose to most being mainly defensive, with the exception of bounty hunters).

For example, a 5 focus bloodmage with a strength bot. They can be a focus build with low defenses. and still do pretty good robot damage.
Post #: 9
7/14/2013 20:00:42   
Mother1
Member

@ AQW

this should be in the suggestions part of the site since it is turning into that, also the poison bot works with focus and/or tech abuse it's effect isn't universal like the assault bot, bio borg, and and just about every other effect bot that isn't offensive.
Epic  Post #: 10
7/15/2013 10:21:05   
zion
Member

The more variety the better at this point... but this belongs in balance since it boils down to certain classes being able to use robots more effectively.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 11
7/15/2013 11:14:20   
  Exploding Penguin
Moderator


 @mother1: AQWorldsFarmer phrased it in the original post as a topic for discussion, not necessarily as a suggestion itself, so I'd say it can be in either category of the forums.
Epic  Post #: 12
7/15/2013 16:34:21   
Q...Q
Member
 

 Man they shouldnt have nerf the FOCUS dmg , but only the bot.
DF Epic  Post #: 13
7/15/2013 17:10:12   
Stabilis
Member

Not sure what you mean by "focus or abuse?", since Focus is not excluded from being able to be abused. As it is, Focus is founded on damage.
AQ Epic  Post #: 14
7/15/2013 17:15:20   
Mother1
Member

@ depressed void

He is talking about stat abuse when he says abuse.
Epic  Post #: 15
7/15/2013 19:08:19   
AQWorldsFarmer
Member

^ yes, i should have been more clear on that.
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