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5/15/2011 10:26:21   
clone2200
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Do you like it?Do you dislike it?Have you won any battles yet?Lost any?Had a chance to do it via team battle button?


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Please keep all discussion of Juggernaut mode in the NEW Juggernaut Battle Mode Announcement thread. Duplicate threads are not needed. Locking up. ~Ashari

< Message edited by Ashari -- 5/15/2011 16:43:32 >

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AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 1
5/15/2011 10:30:49   
AQWPlayer
Member

I think...the skull key's varium price should be lowered because I havn't met even one juggernaut yet.
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5/15/2011 10:47:00   
8x
Member

^Thats because you are too high lvl to fight juggernauts.

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5/15/2011 10:50:12   
GrenadeLauncher
Member

It's too easy as the Juggernaut. Low levels don't even stand a chance. o.O
Epic  Post #: 4
5/15/2011 11:04:31   
ajs777
Member

i think it could be fun, but right now its just free wins for the juggers

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AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 5
5/15/2011 11:04:45   
beastmo
Member

@grenade theres always the occasional lucky noob :P
Epic  Post #: 6
5/15/2011 11:12:52   
helloguy
Member

It's still in it's testing phase and raising the level of who the juggernaut fight could be tricky
AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 7
5/15/2011 11:13:16   
  Digital X

Beep Beep! ArchKnight AQ / ED


 I've experienced my fair share of lucky lower levels let me tell you! They come by pretty often and catch me completely off guard.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 8
5/15/2011 11:21:27   
TurkishIncubus
Member

Juggernaut find players too slow and i cant play a battle mode that dont show my wins :/ , idk how many wins i got and how much i have to play to be in leaderboard without these info i will play blind and i dont want to waste my time.

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5/15/2011 11:41:02   
GrenadeLauncher
Member

@Beasty

Look at the Juggernaut LB. Man, the low levels sure are lucky!!
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5/15/2011 12:08:21   
IsaiahtheMage
Member

I used my alt level 19 mage. I ended up in a 2 vs 1 battle it was me and a level 17 vs a level 28. We only won because he had abounch of noob stuff and a bad build. So this isnt fair at all. If he had a good build and some good weapons he wouldve pwned us. Juggernaut mode is unfair. I cant believe the devs would make something so unfair. I am just disgusted no wonder everyone has such a high win % on the leaderbaords its a bunch of crap.

EDIT: I used my lower level alt mage again and fought a level 29 fully equiped varuim beast and my teamate was a level 20 and where both non fully equiped non varuim. He pwned us both epicly. This is a free win for varuims. Its not even balance at all. Its also unfair that you cant just 2 vs 2 but you have a chance to encounter automatic lose battle. Devs I am not falling into your lies anymore. You do not care about balance nor know what it is. Say all you want I aint buying it.

EDIT: Me and my teamate both level 20s fought a level 31 fully equiped varuim. How is that fair? I think I am gonna make some suggestions this must stop. This is wrecking lower levels team battle win/loss ratio.

< Message edited by IsaiahtheMage -- 5/15/2011 15:27:45 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 11
5/15/2011 12:13:59   
Calogero
Member

never lost as a TM...

It's nice but the lower levels think it's annoying

I highly recommend that a Third button is added so that Those low lvl players that want a 2 vs 2 match
don't get forced into a Juggernaut battle in which they have very low survival chances... Especialy vs tanks

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AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 12
5/15/2011 12:58:02   
The Cardclasher
Member

I think juggernout is a varium crap. They just want the profit.
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5/15/2011 13:01:40   
helloguy
Member

the other team has a chance if there both Merc
AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 14
5/15/2011 13:01:42   
EE
Member

I have never seen a larger collection of whiners in all my time playing than when I'm in Jugger mode. 3/4 of all the battle start with them begging to let them win or to not heal. If there are 2 things that get under my skin, its those two statements. I see them in 1v1 as well, but 2v1 has a much larger collection. I'm sure that the devs will adjust the lvl scaling for these battles, but until then those are my 2 cents on the subject.

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5/15/2011 13:05:34   
eragonshadeslayer67
Member

way too easy, no offense but imo it brings relief to anyone not skilled enough to win 1 vs 1s and real 2 vs 1s

can't try myself becus of the huge price but looking at the helpless lv 26s just makes me cringe ................ seriously it require no skill for a full varium player (they don't even need enhancements)
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 16
5/15/2011 13:08:56   
EE
Member

^got that right. sometime i play without a zooka or bot to give them a fighting chance...and even then it's always a win
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5/15/2011 13:15:11   
Nexus...
Member

The way I see it, 27's are the sweet spot. They arn't extremely hard to beat, but if they know what they are doing, two of em can run down your health quite a bit. I say make the range 26-28 for 33's. That would present a challenge, but not too big a challenge. Picking on 22-25's really is not the way to go with this system.

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5/15/2011 14:44:37   
Polandor
Member

2vs 1 is really bad.

Lv 33 face two lv 22-26. it a 100% win to any descent lv 33.

You could put 3 or 4 lv 22-26 vs one lv 33 and the lv 33 will still win.

It also a I win button, for those who pay 1200 varium.
It a I lose button if a lv 22-26 try to play a regular 2-2 battle and end up vs a juggernaut.

You can say just don't play 2-2, right ?
Well a lv 22-26 has a lot of chance of facing a higher level in 1-1 and also lose.

The new 2vs1, is actually removing a 2-2 mode for many players.

2vs1 need a new button, so only ppl who want it choose it.

the team lv vs a lv 33 need to be 26-29 NOT 22-26 like now.
And probably need to be 27-30 for a little challenge.

2vs1 need to be challenging, not a free wins.


< Message edited by Polandor -- 5/15/2011 14:46:05 >
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5/15/2011 15:11:00   
Sparticus
Member

I got the card, choose Juggernaut and had my first Juggernaut battle. Man that was so unfair, I apologize.
I suppose some players might enjoy this but I didn't take any pride in doing this.

First Juggernaut Battle.
5th Battle, no different then the rest.

< Message edited by Sparticus -- 5/15/2011 15:24:36 >
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 20
5/15/2011 15:13:34   
5rr5
Banned


 How is there non variums in 2 vs 1 battles, don't you need 1200 varium?
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 21
5/15/2011 15:14:17   
  Digital X

Beep Beep! ArchKnight AQ / ED


 There is a slight chance for a person who has not bought the Key Card to encounter a 2v1 Juggernaut battle using the Team Battle button.
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5/15/2011 15:17:23   
Nebula
Member

^No one above level 26 can go into one without it. Meaning the majority of active players can't. So really you do need the card key the majority of the time.

< Message edited by Nebula -- 5/15/2011 15:18:34 >
Post #: 23
5/15/2011 15:17:56   
Polandor
Member

2vs1 currently is really bad, here how to improve it:

* 2vs1 need a new button, so only ppl who want it choose it.
* Increase the team lv, facing a lv 33 to 26-29 (instead f current 22-26).
* a new Leader board for juggernaut consecutive wins (daily)
* Add an option to make a team for 2vs1.
* After each juggernaut win on the same day make the battle harder, example for a lv 33:
26-29 (0 win)
27-29 (after 1 win)
28-29 (after 2 consecutive win)
29-29 (after 3 consecutive win)
29-30 (after 4 consecutive win)
30-30 (after 5 consecutive win)
30-31 (after 6 consecutive win)
31-31 (after 7 consecutive win)
31-32 (after 8 consecutive win)
32-32 (after 9 consecutive win)
32-32 (after 10+ consecutive win)

Those reset everyday, this would make it a challenge, it will also make room for new juggernaut (when someone has 9 consecutive wins, it would ensure less waiting time before a match begin.

*Juggernaut should always go 2nd if facing two lower level player. (26-29)
* Exception to the above rules, give 50% chance to go first if facing a team with a level -1 of the juggernaut
* Exception to the above rules, give 33% chance to go first if facing a team with a level -2 of the juggernaut
* Exception to the above rules, give 13% chance to go first if facing a team with a level -3 of the juggernaut

Lv 33 face two lv 22-26. it a 100% win to any descent lv 33.
You could put 3 or 4 lv 22-26 vs one lv 33 and the lv 33 will still win.
It also a I win button, for those who pay 1200 varium.
It a I lose button if a lv 22-26 try to play a regular 2-2 battle and end up vs a juggernaut.
You can say just don't play 2-2, right ?
Well a lv 22-26 has a lot of chance of facing a higher level in 1-1 and also lose.
The new 2vs1, is actually removing a 2-2 mode for many players.

2vs1 need to be challenging, not a free wins.
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5/15/2011 15:22:48   
Nebula
Member

@Polandor Uh, no thanks. That making the battle thing harder is a fail of an idea. Seriously, making a level 33 fight 2 level 32s? That's not fair one bit.
Making it so level 31+ fight level 27 - 30 would be better, but with your idea no level 33 is going to try and get more than 7 2v1 wins which will force a >70% win ratio.
The other ones, I agree with.

< Message edited by Nebula -- 5/15/2011 15:27:30 >
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