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7/16/2011 9:45:49   
.Nikzat.
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Have some ideas that will make TLM class more balanced?

Discuss!

~Nikzat
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7/16/2011 9:48:52   
TTG Sean
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Remove Hybrid And Give them Matrix, And Give CH Hybrid. And Gold Don't Say Your Blah Blah it will make Tac mercs more OP

< Message edited by TTG Sean -- 7/16/2011 9:49:05 >

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AQ DF MQ Epic  Post #: 2
7/16/2011 9:52:50   
8x
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quote:

Remove Hybrid And Give them Matrix, And Give CH Hybrid. And Gold Don't Say Your Blah Blah it will make Tac mercs more OP

At least now CHs know how mercs feel, because they have only 1 passive. And of course now you want TLMs to have only 1 passive too -.-
Epic  Post #: 3
7/16/2011 9:52:54   
goldslayer1
Member

@ttg
removing hybryid wont solve any problem it will make it UP and then more people on the forums will complain and flame about it.

remove technician.
add a req on reroute
and add a req on frenzy

and in the mean time buff up some of the other classes in another way.
AQW Epic  Post #: 4
7/16/2011 9:57:59   
TTG Sean
Member

Dude If you Give them Matrix it Will make Tac Mercs Support Builds OP But It Will Help With Debuffing some of the Strength Builds
AQ DF MQ Epic  Post #: 5
7/16/2011 9:58:52   
JariTheMighty
Member

Nikzat, when I battled you, you said Bounty Hunters are still the best class. And now you make a topic like this? Make up your mind... :p
AQ DF Epic  Post #: 6
7/16/2011 9:59:16   
Agiluz
Member

Just buff BM & CH problem solve
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7/16/2011 9:59:59   
goldslayer1
Member

quote:

Dude If you Give them Matrix it Will make Tac Mercs Support Builds OP But It Will Help With Debuffing some of the Strength Builds

so basically u want to force tac mercs into using 1 single build to even come close to effetive in combat?
that doesn't make sense. u dont want to balance the class u want to cripple it.

< Message edited by goldslayer1 -- 7/16/2011 10:01:42 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 8
7/16/2011 10:01:11   
.Nikzat.
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@Jari

A Str TLM is toooo OP'd
And yes a BH is a bit better in my opinion

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Epic  Post #: 9
7/16/2011 10:02:58   
TTG Sean
Member

No I Don't Goldslayer you Just won't Admit that your own Class is OP So You Suggest Minor Changes like Putting Requirements on Like Frenzy and Reroute. That wouldnt do ANYTHING
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7/16/2011 10:04:53   
.Nikzat.
Member

@TTG
you right. it wont change something.
Epic  Post #: 11
7/16/2011 10:06:25   
8x
Member

quote:

No I Don't Goldslayer you Just won't Admit that your own Class is OP So You Suggest Minor Changes like Putting Requirements on Like Frenzy and Reroute. That wouldnt do ANYTHING

I think support requirement on reroute would do a lot (around 42 supp at max reroute)
Epic  Post #: 12
7/16/2011 10:07:52   
TTG Sean
Member

Then EVERYONE Will use 5 Focus Builds Which Most already Do.
AQ DF MQ Epic  Post #: 13
7/16/2011 11:17:23   
Stabilis
Member

Tactical Mercenary isn't really a mercenary as much as it siphoned the identity from the other 3 classes. It retains the hybrid armour, gains an insane health draining skill (frenzy) from the bounty hunter type bloodlust, it has the mage's reroute?! And it still has high powered attacks like artillery and surgical strike.

This class is not an Epicduel class I am sorry to say. This class only has skills that passively do all the work for the player; I mean, are their any real skills the player has to use?!

Those 2 passive skills mentioned should be nerfed to half their proficiency. Actually a class should have only 1 or 2 passive skills at the most...

< Message edited by greenrain13 -- 7/16/2011 12:01:37 >
AQ Epic  Post #: 14
7/16/2011 11:38:38   
Remorse
Member

^ I agree,

What you guys have to think about is that making CH and BMs better wont solve the problem as the orignal classes will become UPed.

The only way to make all classes equal with their evolutions is to change tac mercs to make them equal with mercs.

Because tac mercs are the only class that have tacken over the orignal class (mercs) And this need to be solved. Easiest way also fixes this problem of tac mercs being oped which is swapping their hybrid for something ealse (proberly Defence matrix)

The other problem is that Cyber hunters are still weak compared to BH and something like giving them a decent passive will solve this problem (make static charge passive , or give em hybrid for DM)

< Message edited by Remorse -- 7/16/2011 11:40:39 >
Epic  Post #: 15
7/16/2011 11:52:45   
goldslayer1
Member

omg again with hybrid.
i really hate the biased merc haters that started this "REMOVE HYBRID" riot
all it takes is 1 person to sprout the idea and then people follow.
AQW Epic  Post #: 16
7/16/2011 11:55:30   
TTG Sean
Member

Gold its the only way to balance tac mercs you just don't want to have balance.
AQ DF MQ Epic  Post #: 17
7/16/2011 11:57:52   
Calogero
Member

@ Gold

well I hate the Biased Tact Merc lovers that Refuse the Nerf of Tact Merc with Hybrid... Defence Matrix will still be good enough for you...
It's like you people don't want balance... just an OP class


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7/16/2011 12:02:36   
Mohandas Gandhi
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 There are other peaceful ways of achieving balance, instead of taking away hybrid my friends. Before we nerf of buff any classes, we need to be able to understand each other.


I for one think that the game is good. The majority of players that we all face are tactical mercs right? That means that the players are enjoying the class to it's fullest potential.

I can sense all the anger and distrust among my forum friends, these threads are extremely biased, they seek to kill the class instead of saving it and I'm against that. We must leave the tactical merc class alone, and help buff the other classes.
Post #: 19
7/16/2011 12:03:11   
8x
Member

Lets leave balancing to Ashari and other game testers/balancers. Because on forums everyone protects their own class or the class that they want to become.
Epic  Post #: 20
7/16/2011 12:13:31   
Calogero
Member

@8rlx0

most indeed do...
I am from orgin a Tech Mage, I have tested Blood Mage and Tact Merc...
I know for a fact that it's Op'd and removing ' Hybrid ' for Defence Matrix
allows them still to tank but it has to be set up first... They have Reroute so
they can always get enough energy to use it.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 21
7/16/2011 12:18:18   
edwardvulture
Member

Take out their atom smasher, and either smoke or technician, or both. Replace it with something from blood mage.
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 22
7/16/2011 13:50:39   
Fatal Impact
Member

Ive been a tactical merc. 3 times and Im currently one, I will say they are a bit OP when It comes to strength builds, but I mainly use focus builds xD.
Epic  Post #: 23
7/16/2011 14:24:41   
DeathSpawn
Banned


 OMG how many Threads are there on this? Also the dude just said discuss and put nothing else with it!!!!

These should start getting deleted or something this is ridiculous.

Yeah TaM's are OP'd and there's this nifty feature called "Class Change"

It only costs 50k creds or 900 varium!!!!! IKR Imagine that!!!!

So how about everyone makes these OP'd builds correctly so they can nerf them correctly as well since there team knows nothing on how to play this game and in the end can only go off what the actual players come up with????

Come on guys it's so fun to abuse these OP'd builds and fight TaM's EVERY match :D
AQW Epic  Post #: 24
7/16/2011 14:26:50   
goldslayer1
Member

quote:

well I hate the Biased Tact Merc lovers that Refuse the Nerf of Tact Merc with Hybrid... Defence Matrix will still be good enough for you...
It's like you people don't want balance... just an OP class

removing hybrid isn't going to "nerf" it its going to cripple the class just like heal loop mages were nerfed.
AQW Epic  Post #: 25
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