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2/11/2013 16:03:02   
ambien
Member

since l have been playing omega these days the question has come up more then once.

l bet you all know what it is. players ask and l am not glad it is not f4f anymore. the question is now how do u hate omega, or how much do u dislike omega

l been playing ed for awhile and l have to say l dont like omega right now maybe if the ed team works out alot of class changes then l will like omega.

ok here is my post question do u like omega and why do , u dislike omega and why.

l dislike omega for the heath , that you cannot lower, no stats right now for str. dex, tech, or support, and tech mages l dont see anything they got to help them.

so dont like omega right now.

always the syfy

< Message edited by ambien -- 2/11/2013 16:12:04 >
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2/11/2013 16:08:28   
Mother1
Member

I hate how strength builds got yet another buff thanks to them not lowering the damage of strength moves yet they lower our stats for less defenses. I also dislike how we have to pay to rearrange our stats on our weapons because when their used to be enhancements you can rearrange them any way you wanted for free right after you brought them.

But on the note for f4f people still ask or in some cases beg for it. they most likely just don't do it as much as before.
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2/11/2013 16:11:49   
the final hour
Banned


yup ive had this question come up alot in battle and you know im pretty hard pressed to find anyone who likes omega in game as a whole . the fact is what do you like about omega is a easier question to answer

a none varium likes the fact that none variums have been buffed . thats probably it everything else sucks for them in reality,

a varium likes nothing.

yup ive had this question come up alot in battle and you know im pretty hard pressed to find anyone who likes omega in game as a whole . the fact is what do you like about omega is a easier question to answer

a none varium likes the fact that none variums have been buffed . thats probably it everything else sucks for them in reality,

a varium likes nothing.

i know some forumites will disagree with my statement here but the fact is from what ive heard from pretty much everyone ingame this is what my statements are based on .

i believe and shall always believe that omega was a fatal error . well intentioned but the greatesr harm comes from the best intentions.

if epic duel is to be saved fast action must be taken

theese are my views on what i have heard and my own personal feelings,


< Message edited by the final hour -- 2/11/2013 16:15:56 >
Post #: 3
2/11/2013 17:03:04   
Assassin01
Member

Things I dislike:
-Strength Builds
-Super support builds...to some extent
-The fact that if I give someone or myself Tech by using Technician and if they or I have been malfed although resistance goes back to what it originally was the opponents still do high damage. I've noticed that with weaker shields from other classes the opponents receive less damage. (I'm positive I'm not being paranoid as I've seen this happen every time I use Technician). Long story short shielding is currently of no use to me or whoever my partner is at the time.
-Items are more expensive but credit rewards from fights have not gone up. (Truthfully this only bothers me since because of school I don't have much playtime)

Things I like:
-I have been winning alot more than I did in Gamma and Delta. My wins and losses are even enough.
-Since I win more I'm more motivated to keep playing.
-Non variums are able to buy any item now (Exchange rates were my enemy but because of Omega I don't have to yearn for stuff that I know I can't get since everything is obtainable with the exception of promos)
-Honestly I just like playing ED alot more than I did previously.


Overall:-There's still some tweaking to be done balance-wise but the Devs are only human so as the community keeps stating what should be changed I believe they'll find ways to adapt. Balance is hard to find so patience is a virtue that we all need right now.
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2/11/2013 17:06:49   
King Helios
Member

I just fought you; you said you don't like luck.

I agree.
AQ MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 5
2/11/2013 17:14:23   
LVXYZ
Member

I don't like the current balance, or the current core prices, but that'll be fixed, so there's nothing that's turning me off of this release completely. So I like it as a whole.
Post #: 6
2/11/2013 17:27:37   
Fortitudo
Member

Expensive.
Epic  Post #: 7
2/11/2013 17:52:45   
hijinks
Member

The fact that it's very expensive just to upgrade items still, and the NPC credit drops are lower when battling a lower level npc. Also, skill cores a little too expensive. It costs 42000 creds altogether to have cores on all the stuff your using.
DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 8
2/11/2013 19:34:05   
xxmirxx
Member
 

i hate omega cause every time i want to upgrade my wep i got pay 250 credits and i hate omega cause only good builts are strenght merc how boring is that and i hate jugs cause even more unfair then b4 i hate how mission are very long and some u got pay varium just to pass mission like items. I hate how fact they never ask us what we want in evolution it is always same they do what they think we like not what we want to see. i hate fact how hp u gain is now 1 instead of 2 which if they made two then know one would use strenght builts.
AQ Epic  Post #: 9
2/11/2013 19:42:51   
Jack Nitrous
Member

i kinda like the upgrades.i dislike the misions,they suk,and i dont like how the mercs are stronger than b4
Epic  Post #: 10
2/11/2013 20:58:14   
master1351
Member

@xxmirxx
Untrue,i can actually beat those str mercs if I start.So if u can think of a build that can counter them,they aren't that good.

I like how you can customize ur weapon stats.But I dislike how expensive things can get and how luck factor can affect the gameplay.I hate luck -.-".ugh
AQW Epic  Post #: 11
2/11/2013 22:14:11   
St. Raven
Member

epicduel was enjoyable and it only took them 4 years to get it that way. Will it take another 4 years to get back to where it was? Time will tell. If its not broke don't fix it, however people like trying to improve things and that often a mistake.
Post #: 12
2/11/2013 23:30:46   
ValkyrieKnight
Member

I've had more frustration in the short time playing Omega than I ever did during Delta and I'm a non var, it says allot.

Freedom? No such thing, that got immediately chucked out the window, want to know the best build? 50 ~ 60 str, dex, tech, ON ALL classes, doesn't matter which, you'll easily tank damage while being immensely powerful, screw strategy, I tried caster, tanker and full on strength and I win with str + dex the easily, health is rendered pointless at the sheer amount of points you have to put into it to get my signature health. Health (imo) is now a very weak stat.

< Message edited by ValkyrieKnight -- 2/11/2013 23:35:56 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 13
2/11/2013 23:41:04   
SouL Prisoner
Member

Dislike

A little expensive (earlier rearrange of stats was free, then y pay now??)

Jugg balance ..

Making 1.stat 1 heath and energy

So many Cores providing so less luck factor ... No cores that provides deg/resist ...

Cores locked to weapons ...

AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 14
2/12/2013 1:16:21   
uria9
Member

Like: easier to buy and enhance weps
Dislike:
-Battles are too luck dependent
-You can no longer build defensively to win a battle without insane amount of luck
-Both sides seem to have the same amount of luck no matter how much stat you have over the other person
-80% of battles are people running around with herpderp strength builds and easily win without even using their brain
-Fame still not gone yet

How to Balance:
-Nerf high-damage-no brain-dumb-win-condition builds
-Encourage more strategic and diverse amount of builds
-Increase the stat required to use Strength related skills

I'm a BH, even if i use reflect boost + smokescreen with 30+ defense, strength builds are still able to do tons of damage with just strikes

< Message edited by uria9 -- 2/12/2013 1:24:48 >
Post #: 15
2/12/2013 1:54:31   
Giras Wolfe
Member

Like: Easier to make new builds without necessarily needing new weapons.
Like: Every battle is competitive, you don't feel like you're trampling on noobs.
Like: You gotta keep your head in the game to win, for the most part.
Like: More battle options
Like: Game coding finally makes sense and can be used to generate new content faster.
Like: Using Betaweps, Bunnyzooka, Super Freeze Blaster, 2nd Amendment 2.0, etc.
Like: New battle search engine that doesn't look like it was drawn on MS paint.
Like: The merc with a baseball bat stunning me, then doing 90 damage to me in one turn.

Dislike: DREADFUL server lag
Dislike: Strength is OP
Dislike: Single, Dominant Build still present and uncounterable
Dislike: High cost of basically everything compared to difficulty earning credits.
Dislike: SPIDERS! OhgodgetthemoffgetthemoffGETTHEMOFF!!!
AQ AQW Epic  Post #: 16
2/13/2013 0:20:47   
nico0las
Member

I think it is... unwise to make a post that suggests players bomb Omega; It's not very constructive (something this community lacks is giving constructive criticism; instead we tear everything down), and secondly it's not beneficial to any one in any way.

In any case, Omega might just be the best thing to happen to this game. Not now though, right now it isn't fantastic. It IS getting there, and there is slow but sure progress. I think the devs know what they're doing here.

Anyways, things that I don't like about omega: There are three.

1: The imbalance shown by strength and the lack of action by the community. Every day, all we see is players complaining about how overpowered mercenary and bounty hunter are, but all these players do is flock straight to these classes and builds, making a bad
problem worse. Does anyone really believe rubbing salt into the would will make it better? Of course not. It only makes it worse. This game cannot be fixed if the community does not take the initiative to help themselves, and stop pointing the
finger at the devs. There is no justified reason to point the finger at the people who did not create the problem. The potential always existed. We can't go blaming the devs for everything because lately, they've been playing "clean up crew", solving problems the community brought on themselves.

EVERY PLAYER HERE is guilty of abusing strength at some point. We've all done it. How about we stop complaining and stop using the build, or better yet, take the initiative to create something that will beat mercenaries?
All I hear is "Oh I beat mercenaries all day every day" and such nonsense. If that were the case, why is the build still going strong? Stop lying, take action and be productive rather than just sit down and complain, or even worse lie and not provide a solution whilst you claim to have one.

2: I greatly dislike the credit system. I think the distinction between varium and credits was key. It gave the varium players a certain advantage. It was, however, horrendously overpowered, and so the varium players, myself included, abused this and
controlled the game with an iron fist. This balance no longer exists. I, and many other players, have spend quite a great deal of money earned working eight of our waking hours every day, and now it has been thrown out the window. There should be at least SOME kind of advantage. The players who purchase varium carry the rest on their shoulders. Sad as it might be, this is true. It is wrong to remove their, our privileges. YES the non-varium demographic should be stronger, YES varium and enhancements were overpowered, YES there SHOULD be restraints and balancing implemented to stop Delta from happening again. But now, it was simply a waste of money. It no longer has anything to do with the game.

3: The amount of smack talked about how bad omega is, let's go back to delta, blah blah blah. Delta didn't work. It failed. It fell flat on it's face. It had HUGE potential. Unfortunately, between the community's incessant complaints and "solutions" to problems, and the devs being overwhelmed by the task at hand, it did not work. Omega is the key to a new age, key to a new era for Epicduel. Either accept this and enjoy, or please stop complaining. It might not be good, but it's the best we have, and have had in a long time.

@Below
In that case, I tip my hat to you, give you a virtual high-five, and bestow upon you the EpicDuel Medal of Excellence.

< Message edited by nico0las -- 2/13/2013 18:25:20 >
MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 17
2/13/2013 18:22:35   
Assassin01
Member

@Above
The only problem I had with your post was the fact that you said everyone has abused strength builds. I have never done it.

Beta: Plasma Build
Gamma: I think this is when malf builds were being used so I followed the pack but I did not abuse str and left because I was losing too much.
Delta: rejoined in September last year with the same build as Gamma (still hasn't changed)
Omega: Still have yet to abuse str but I'm winning a satisfactory amount of fights with a malf build regardless.

The only thing I've been guilty of is using the advantage that comes with a malf build.I'm sure that I'm not the only one who hasn't abused str.


< Message edited by Assassin01 -- 2/13/2013 18:23:42 >
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 18
2/13/2013 22:01:41   
Wasted Spirit
Member

Like:Don't have to keep buying myself varium as much.
Dislike:Mercs (Not the people,the class ATM)
Like:Lagg,connection loss.It could be my connection but I doubt it.
Like:Its the phase where I'm gonna turn 20!
Dislike:How unbalanced it is ATM
Like:Its the phase when I got to apply to become a moderator! ^_^ wish me luck!
Dislike:You can't delete the your cores on the selected gear! :"(
Like:New cheevos!
Dislike:Juggernaut ATM
Dislike:Blocks,etc-

There you go guys!
AQW Epic  Post #: 19
2/15/2013 9:47:32   
ScarletReaper
Member

I love the fact that everyone hates mercs now. We go from being the joke class that was the one nobody wanted to play to one of the best classes, and now everyone is mad about it. Personally I think it's awesome. Tired of being pushed around by the bounty hunters and blood mages. Time for some payback I say. As far as the update, it's far from perfect, but overall I don't think it's too bad an update. There are a lot of good things about it. Prices could go down a bit, and balance does need a bit of work, but give them some time people.

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