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3/29/2013 0:14:08   
  Exploding Penguin
Moderator


 Well, the concept of punishing the opponent for striking is interesting, but these are really the only benefits you get out of it:

-If the opponent doesn't know or forgets, they get punished
-Does weak unblockable damage when used by the bot

See the problem? The benefits are near none. Here are also some reasons why the special ability itself is near useless:

-Active cores give numerous options
-The effect itself lasts for a very short amount of time
-If the opponent does end up striking, they don't get punished by that much
-Initial damage of applying the effect is quite weak

Overall, the concept is quite interesting, but the bot special itself is detrimental because players rarely use strike in a fight, let alone choose to when they have numerous other options such as active cores, skills, ranged weapons, robots, etc...
Epic  Post #: 1
3/29/2013 1:17:53   
TRizZzCENTRINO
Member

eh, no it is nothing close to being useless, i have faced a few of those with the bunny bot and many of them didn't know how to use it properly until i met one, i striked and learned my lesson.
you just need to use it at the right time, when their gun, bot or Aux is in cooldown.
MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 2
3/29/2013 2:09:14   
Thesoulweaver
Member

@above

Right.


And besides, it has 14 base damage. 2 above the norm. Plus, that special has save d me many a times.
MQ AQW  Post #: 3
3/29/2013 4:10:54   
AQWorldsFarmer
Member

If you run out of skills and your gun and aux are on cool down and you get hit with that special you can either:

A- attack and do damage to yourself

B- wait a few turns and gun or aux (usually dead by then)

I'd say its pretty usefull.
Post #: 4
3/29/2013 6:44:57   
theholyfighter
Member

It should work with all melee attacks, not just strikes.
AQW Epic  Post #: 5
3/29/2013 6:59:52   
ansh0
Member

The special is useless.

If you can't do anything but strike, dont move.

You will always be better off.

Thank god I didnt get it.


Needs a serious buff.
Epic  Post #: 6
3/29/2013 7:02:18   
TRizZzCENTRINO
Member

@above -_- you just don't know how to use it properly
MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 7
3/29/2013 8:14:12   
Lycan.
Member

I agree with ansh, i'd rather miss a turn than do damage to myself so although the special is creative it's pretty much useless IMO
Epic  Post #: 8
3/29/2013 8:20:45   
Silver Sky Magician
Member


 ^

Then the bot user gets a free stun. Pretty good outcome, no?
Post #: 9
3/29/2013 8:38:31   
lolo666
Member

Pfft... People does not know how to use it... XD

I was in a battle. I had like 32 hp left.
I used the special. He rage aux me.
I had 3 hp left.. Since he does not have any more move,
He used strike. It crit him and he had 3 hp left.
I auxed him then I won.

It's not useless at all :P
AQ AQW Epic  Post #: 10
3/29/2013 8:42:42   
ansh0
Member

Does the special do less damage?
Epic  Post #: 11
3/29/2013 8:46:54   
Thesoulweaver
Member

ansh0 and Lycan. That's like saving the special user some HP, which slowing your rage gain.
MQ AQW  Post #: 12
3/29/2013 8:49:23   
lolo666
Member

ansh0, It did like 24 damage on crit :p
AQ AQW Epic  Post #: 13
3/29/2013 8:50:47   
Remorse
Member

An easy fix would be to change it to any strike based damage attacks presides skills tree skills.


For example it would now include all skill cores that use strike damage.
Epic  Post #: 14
3/29/2013 9:07:35   
ReinVI
Member

yeah sadly I can't really see where the bots special will be useful.. if all there stuff is in CD which would take a VERY long time given how many skills, unblockables, cores, etc etc a typical player can get I just can't see where I would ever use it for anything more than unblockable damage sadly.. and making the opponent look silly but that's not a big point >.>
Epic  Post #: 15
3/29/2013 10:20:48   
TRizZzCENTRINO
Member

seriously, it is just a bot, you are not forced to get it so i don't see what the fuss is about, i would get it if i had the credits because i like to make my opponents look silly and be forced to skip his turn when i use it correctly.

different people have different uses for each kind of bot.

< Message edited by TRizZzCENTRINO -- 3/29/2013 10:21:32 >
MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 16
3/29/2013 10:56:36   
  Charfade
Member

A good tactic I've been using is depleting the opponents energy right away. So that if they dont have anything other then strike they either dont remember they are colored and attack themselves or its a skipped turn for me. Which is still pretty useful. The opponent loses a chance to do damage or buff. ^^ Its been working out pretty well.

< Message edited by Charfade -- 3/29/2013 10:57:03 >
MQ Epic  Post #: 17
3/29/2013 11:07:05   
  Exploding Penguin
Moderator


 @TRizZz: No, I'm not forced to get it. However, anyone has the right to make a "fuss" about it if they don't find any practical use with it, and I have yet to find one. Also, according to Charfade's seemingly working strategy, it seems this bot increases the effectiveness of classes like BH, which already were slightly overpowering other classes with their skill tree synergy before the release.

@Remorse: If they made it like that, they'd probably have to make it so that the strike user still does damage, but receives some themselves, otherwise it would be far too limiting

@ansh0: I believe it does 65% damage off of a few experiments I've run with it.
Epic  Post #: 18
3/29/2013 11:17:01   
Mother1
Member

I find this bot actually useful in two vs two. Especially if my partner has a yeti. As soon as my partner used the yeti on said person I used the bot's special. Was able to get 2 free turns out of this as well.
Epic  Post #: 19
3/29/2013 12:04:57   
ansh0
Member

It should at least do 100% damage when using the special.

It's very very rare for it to be useful.
Epic  Post #: 20
3/29/2013 12:43:53   
Blitzex/Sr. Zeph
Banned


 Its cute but scrap metal.
It is a flawed effect, only usefull on the very end of the battle, and even then sometimes not.

No one has even came close to actually use it in their advantage against me..
Like i said in another post: Useless
Epic  Post #: 21
3/29/2013 14:13:11   
King Helios
Member

@Charfade;

Without cores, that strategy would be great. However, they could just meteor shower or generate or energy shot or whatever. :/
AQ MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 22
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