Toffeuy
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@Goony: With first-hand experience against similar builds from the TLM class, they do come out as a bit of a problem, if they do not have atom smasher, then I still will win due to the fast rage gain. However, if they do have atom smasher, then it's first strike wins. I haven't yet faced a surgical TLM who has healed against me a second time. Most TLMs prefer a lvl 7 surgical, which costs 50 energy, out of usually 61. My Frostbite takes 15 energy away, and say their heal is lvl 1 and that uses 17 energy, they will rarely ever have the energy to heal a second time. Tank vs Tank means an extended battle, which means there will come a point where the only option I will have is to strike (which will do like 5 dmg?) and at times like this, unless I am building for rage, I will use energy shot from my sidearm, which will further decrease their energy by 12. If they choose to sacrifice using their surgical then eventually I will outdamage them. Keep in mind not to overlook my berzerker. While I might not be able to use surgical, berzerker is one crazy good backup move which I will always use (unless I am smoked).
@Hard boy: Do you really think I won't have a counter for those when in 90% of battles I will get smoked, malfed or have have my energy drained? Energy Drain sacrifices a precious turn of the opponent, and I pull a Berzerker, which is only ~20 dmg weaker than surgical, a worthy compromise to make considering my opponent just wasted a turn. Smoke doesn't affect me that much, Gamma Bot special is unblockable, I also have zooka and surgical. If they have massacre, I use frostbite then keep healing until I can use surgical and rage bot to turn it around. Malf only nerfs one turn worth of damage: when I use my Gamma Bot. By the time i;m finished with my healing routine, malf will have run out and I can use surgical and rage bot as well.
You are the very type of person I am talking about, you exaggerate way too much. "There's no way to survive that", hell yes there is, and I do almost every single battle.
@Guest0000: If we're going to go by your logic that zerk is luck-depending on whether it won't miss, then every single skill is luck-depending since it can crit. Luck is the most **** excuse that ever existed, zerk is zerk, get higher dex, you get blocked less often, common sense.
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