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1/10/2022 12:12:37   
PD
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 Newsletter

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January Golden Giftboxes

COMING THIS WEEK!

The first GGBs of 2022 are sure to have you celebrating! Maisy the magical Moglicorn Guest will give your foes an earful and boost the damage of your Earth attacks, from the biggest boulder to the smallest grain of... sand. Plus celebrate the Year of the Tiger with a fully color-custom face and fireworks launcher!

Token Item Update:
Updates to Tropos Shield and Snurdle Pet are incoming as we continue to bring ancient equipment up-to-date!



From the Homepage:
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The following items will be leaving the Golden Giftboxes this week:

Spider Warlock Face
Spider Witch Face


Digi-tagged! -Digital X

< Message edited by AnimalKing -- 1/11/2022 4:07:49 >
Post #: 1
1/10/2022 13:22:49   
Lv 1000
Member


 I'm excited to see what effectf the updated token items might have since I don't think they actually have any currently!

Also seems like the Fireworks Launcher will be 100-proc, I hope it has a fun effect :D
Post #: 2
1/10/2022 15:27:22   
Zennistrad
Member

The Tropos Shield actually does have an effect, it's just one that's nowhere close to modern standards:

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The Tropos Shield defends greatly against the elements of the Weather — Wind, Ice, and Water. When you encounter enemies of those elements, it changes and adds 25 percent extra base damage to your attacks!


I'm interested in seeing how this would translate to a modern MC bonus, it feels like it will probably end up being technically nerfed. (Though maybe not so much since the only version that's available is only at Level 61)
AQ  Post #: 3
1/10/2022 16:17:34   
Uskius
Creative!


 Something that immediately jumps out to me is making Tropos similar to the Lost Talon shield, except that maybe it might resist Energy instead of Ice. If not that, since shields generally don't get purely offensive effects nowadays, another thing is that it might have a strong Backlash effect against mobs of its elements. It'll be interesting to see what happens to the Snurdle, too.
AQ Epic  Post #: 4
1/10/2022 16:42:37   
PD
Member
 

 You know I am curious to see if that +25% base damage from Tropos really does anything. I remember old CIT anyways with its ridiculous +50% damage being wildly overpowered, and then I just realized this existed and could have possibly been abused like that? It's probably going to lose this effect and we'll see what they do with it.
Post #: 5
1/10/2022 22:02:45   
roobee
Member
 

 I've always wondered whether the +25% damage was just inaccurate flavor text. Considering the encyclopedia entry doesn't say the shield adds extra damage. https://forums2.battleon.com/f/tm.asp?m=4937357
Post #: 6
1/10/2022 22:44:01   
Lv 1000
Member
quote:

I'm interested in seeing how this would translate to a modern MC bonus, it feels like it will probably end up being technically nerfed. (Though maybe not so much since the only version that's available is only at Level 61)


Ah my bad. I doubt that it will be +25% damage, I'd guess 10% like most triggers.
Post #: 7
1/13/2022 8:17:05   
RobynJoanne
Member
 

 Yay, Bard of Wars finally are not leaving! This will help with the situation of many of the best Beastmaster items being Seasonal or worse to get. This may be a bit selfish, but I'd agree with Broccoli that it would be great if the Bard of Wars that hadn't returned this December could also come back.
Post #: 8
1/13/2022 15:22:11   
Sapphire
Banned


 Yeah I third that as well.

Also, look at some of the best BM items in general. You mentioned it, but they're almost always seasonal or rare or rotational .

Charisma weapons almost always are. Other BM helper weapons such as the fire weapon in the snugglefest quests is there. (blah forget it's name) My favorite, the ancient mothers staff/independence daygur are. Clever disguise is.

It discourages the switch to BM from other builds until you obtain what you can get.

There are other issues too smh
Post #: 9
1/13/2022 15:32:37   
  The Hollow
AQ Lead


 We'll continue working on keeping critical build gear around permanently, and bringing back items where we can. Trying out a game and choosing a build only to find out 3 or 4 items you need for that build are coming months... years... never. That doesn't sound like a lot of fun!

New Golden Giftboxes have arrived folks, and head over to the Z-Token Shop to find updated Tropos Shield and Snurdle Pet!

INFO SUBS
AQ  Post #: 10
1/13/2022 15:42:56   
Sapphire
Banned


 The new shield I guess is real-time inflicting the boost? So the landed hit + guest and pet get the boost ? Not next round?

The ranged gun..does this say *10 lucky strike rate? As in 100%? -blink-
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1/13/2022 15:47:51   
battlesiege15
Member

Anyone have a picture of the Snurdle? A compression effect pet and guest sounds amazing! I'll have to see how the Burn compares to stuff like the Blazing Legion Minion. Also, is this one of the first (darkness) guests that can inflict Fear? o__O
AQ AQW  Post #: 12
1/13/2022 15:52:18   
Tantrumz
Member

quote:

We'll continue working on keeping critical build gear around permanently, and bringing back items where we can. Trying out a game and choosing a build only to find out 3 or 4 items you need for that build are coming months... years... never. That doesn't sound like a lot of fun!

New Golden Giftboxes have arrived folks, and head over to the Z-Token Shop to find updated Tropos Shield and Snurdle Pet!

INFO SUBS

Darkness/Wind Bloodmage armors please and Earth Cutlass
AQ  Post #: 13
1/13/2022 15:52:37   
sunblaze
Member

Its a snurdle! -> snake/turtle. Called for a reason like that.

pic: (not mine!)
https://www.deviantart.com/nourasiadragon/art/Do-Not-Underestimate-90267532
AQ  Post #: 14
1/13/2022 15:57:05   
PD
Member
 

 Tried out the items and my initial thoughts:

1. The Tropos shield has crazy synergy with the existing Geo/Voltic/Blazing Bloodzerkers and Tempest Power Armors and the new Giftbox Set. Especially since Tropos targets the common Fire/Energy elements. If you have nostalgia for the old CiT, this ought to get you back there just a little bit, but not as universal as it only targets 3 elements with substantial penalties (they can save against it for example). The description might need changing though because it's still talking about its old +25% base damage booster for "Weather" group of Water/Wind/Ice, versus what I'd call the "Explosive" group of Fire/Energy/Earth which Tropos now targets instead, even though Tropos still continues to defend against the "Weather" group. With this new slot for power boosting you could conceivably farm even faster:

1. FruitcakeZard
2. Caecus
3. Alpha Weredragon
4. Zardnado

As all are at least vulnerable to at least one type of Fire/Energy/Earth. My current setup for Caecus Farming got a LOT more consistent, and I ought to try this on Alpha Weredragon when I have the chance (when it comes back around) and see how that would work for Warrior Farming.

2. Tiger Cannon is great if you missed out on Frostwyrm Fang and SpaceFarer's Cannon. However I am wondering about this if the *10 LS is the base or your overall multiplier...

3. Snurdle with its fear ought to synergize nicely with the just-released Frostval Giftbox set.

< Message edited by PD -- 1/13/2022 16:03:35 >
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1/13/2022 15:57:35   
Sapphire
Banned


 Just tested the cannon. And yes, it's 100% lucky strike. 3k+ damage with 250 dex on normal lucky strike damage. 5k+ w/o dex on 1.5X lucky strike damage. DANG!
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1/13/2022 16:56:48   
Inferno369
Member

Absolutely loving the Snurdles! Fear AND Burn in one? AND a Guest version?! Beautiful.

Snurdle
AQ  Post #: 17
1/13/2022 17:09:57   
Zennistrad
Member

quote:

The description might need changing though because it's still talking about its old +25% base damage booster for "Weather" group of Water/Wind/Ice, versus what I'd call the "Explosive" group of Fire/Energy/Earth which Tropos now targets instead,


I think the idea here is that it makes water/wind/ice monsters weaker to the elements that they're already generally weak to. So it's still good mostly against wind, water, and ice opponents.
AQ  Post #: 18
1/13/2022 17:55:53   
Sapphire
Banned


 It's always nice to see a pet and guest duplicate to stack the effects.
Post #: 19
1/13/2022 18:23:39   
ruleandrew
Member
 

 -- Note on Tiger Cannon --
I see that ~ 70 % melee was paid to get the extra + 80 % lucky strike rate.
AQ  Post #: 20
1/13/2022 18:28:17   
OG Ranger
Member
 

 The BR lean kills the tiger weapon. It's so unreliable. Please consider making it more reliable with a close to 0 BR lean.
AQ  Post #: 21
1/13/2022 18:35:16   
Lv 1000
Member


 Some additional info about Tiger Canon:

  • The weapon has a BR lean of 0.75 (I think this should also affect the skill)

  • The skill's base damage is 300% melee, not 200*(1+0.5) = 300% for example.

  • The Lucky Strike chance modifier from the skill is to your base LS chance (i.e., 10*10 = 100% chance). So if you were to use Lust + Tiger Canon's skill your LS rate should be something like (10+40)*10 = 500%, which would be pointless.


    Tiger Canon Cost Issue:

  • Ranged skills are worth 100% melee

  • +50% damage for a skill is worth 100% melee

  • *10 LS rate, which is effectively just +90% LS rate is worth 90% melee

  • The skill cost a turn to charge, so -100% melee to overall cost

  • So we have 100+100+90-100-10 = 180% melee, which is 705.6 SP

  • Currently it costs 666 SP in total which is about 170% melee in SP.

  • Basically, the skill costs 10% melee less than it should. There seems to be an incorrect assumption regarding the worth of a skipped turn's LS rate value, OR a miscalculation of what 1% LS rate is worth in % melee. To elaborate on the second point, all recent items that involve LS rate (apart from outdated weapon MCs or the outdated frostval crowns) have calculated 1% LS rate to be worth 1% Melee

    Edit: This has been partially explained to me. Carrying over LS rate from skipped turns seems to be a new standard (I guess???), however this only accounts for half of the cost that I stated was missing previously. I have updated my numbers ad wording above.

    Note: If this is a new standard, would hope that recent items like Spacefarer's Frost Canon and Axemaster's Burden are updated.

    < Message edited by Lv 1000 -- 1/13/2022 20:20:30 >
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    1/14/2022 4:14:35   
    OG Ranger
    Member
     

    		 Turtles bite things.
    AQ  Post #: 23
    1/14/2022 7:15:01   
    Sapphire
    Banned


    		 Not Ninja Turtles. They beat you with nun chucks
    Post #: 24
    1/14/2022 8:06:29   
    battlesiege15
    Member

    		Hmm looks like the burnh is essentially the sane on Snurdle and Infernal Legion Minion. Someone pls donate tokens to me so i can afford the pet too lol

    The Tiger Cannon is fun to play with the Ice Leprechaun set from 2 or 3 years ago! Wonder how high the damage gets with the Ferocious Crown too
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