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Friday, September 11, 2026
Fleshweaver: Part 2
Hey there, heroes!

This week, your Fleshweaver training will be complete...

The second half of Fleshweaver training is here, along with some other new things, and some information on an upcoming item for Soulweaver! If you chose to consume Aegis, the last 3 quests to reach your full potential are now available from Secundus. New items are now also available from certain characters for Dragon Coins. The Mote of Hope and Mote of Power can be combined into the Mote of Threads, which allows you to freely access Soulweaver, Fleshweaver, and associated benefits. The Mote of Threads also lets you freely replay Valour, as well as Rewrite history. Each mote can be purchased for 500 Dragon Coins each (1000 Dragon Coins total for the Mote of Threads).

A new house item is also available for Dragon Coins. The Fire Paradigm Portal can be purchased from certain characters for 200 Dragon Coins, and lets you visit the Fire Paradigm from the comfort of your own home.

Finally, an update about that something special coming soon for Soulweavers who choose to reject Secundus! A new trinket is in the works that will not only have a powerful Soulweaver-exclusive skill, but will also let you summon Aegis as a guest in the middle of battle, as long as you have room, and he is around (Challenge areas excluded, of course). This new technology certainly holds some interesting potential for the future as well...

Of course, since Fleshweaver is officially fully released, that means it's no longer available for testing!

Head over to the Fire Paradigm to continue your training... or not!

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Also this week, we have a new cosmetic helmet available for Dragon Coins!

The FellFire Sallet can be purchased from the DC Cosmetics shop for 400 Dragon Coins!

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And that's all for this week! Next week, Dove is taking a well deserved rest, so the release will be up to Dracelix and I! Along with the new Soulweaver trinket, it will probably be a little bit of a lighter release.

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Poise is consensual to getting nommed, the last two require a brawl to prove yourself worthy. You will want to deploy your shied Turn 1 on Du- I mean, Perfection, unlike when Valo(u)r is by your side.

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Another interesting set of fights, hot damn. Proper timing of both Slough and Flesh of Ice is key here, alongside some res-stacking of course, and Flesh of Nature's heal debuff was pretty useful on the last fight too. And while I've been running an Int build for FW so far since it's got major crit support, I got enough mileage out of the class' DoTs here that I'm starting to consider taking a Dex setup for a proper spin.

Gonna need to chew on the overall writing here for a bit I think, but I'm quite curious to see where the last little twist in the FW training narrative goes.

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no proper cutscene for the Hero obtaining the flesh suit

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Also, why was every spirit wiling to be eaten?

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they expressed their boredom of immortality without a weaver.

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the inclusion of the choice to refuse as it should've been inevitable at this point, and the fact that the Fire spirit didn't show also any boredom of eternity prior just like Mettle

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They show no signs of remorse or corruption or any behavioral change as they consume more elemental spirits.

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I'm really not a fan of Valour - the core issue is that Aegis' doubt hasn't been sufficiently built up. I'm not sure if this could have been fixed though - I feel like realistically in order for this to work this would have required a full quest chain so you're basically asking the playerbase to wait for another year for FW to come out to set up Aegis' doubt story-wise. The decision to refuse in Valour also has some really shaky writing - I feel like instead of having Elpis you could instead of Secundus fight the Hero in order to observe them for his future plans, as it feels oddly rash and impulsive for Secundus to jump straight into trying to kill the Hero after refusing the offer.

Wisdom was good - I feel like going with the spirits being semi-willing to be consumed was probably the right decision as having the Hero be evil and go on a rampage consuming the spirits would feel really out of character, and it also sets up the idea that FW is an evil power but it can be used for good which fits with the Hero's established characterisation. It also sets up the fact that Secundus isn't quite as evil as he initially appears to be which is the twist of sorts in Perfection.

Detachment feels really odd - it's weird that Edelia's been abandoned when we had a quest with the headmaster of Edelia not that long ago which shows that Edelia is still operational. I feel like Oyva should have been confronted in Mortem to address this issue and I feel if there's any quest that could stand to be rewritten, it would be this.

I thought Honesty was fine but nothing special - it's nice to see a spirit that Aegis mentioned in passing in a random quest a while ago though there's not much new that this quest shows that hasn't been highlighted in previous quests. My thoughts on Poise and Mettle are similar to Honesty - there's really not much new here but the actual writing of the quests is fine outside of Forto being a spirit that hasn't been mentioned before (though IMO that isn't a grave issue especially compared to the writing of the Valour quest).

I liked Perfection - I feel like it recontextualises Secundus' character in a way that feels thematically appropriate. I think Dove mentioned this on Discord, but Roirr thought that being immortal would make him live forever, Vaal thought that as long as he was remembered, he would "live forever", and it makes sense that Secundus' motivation would be to establish a legacy through training the Hero so that he would "live forever" - it makes sense given that Secundus is a fusion of Vaal and Roirr who sought their own version of immortality.

I feel like the core issue here was similar to the core issue with Malerous - there's not enough buildup for the big story moments, both with the decision to side with Notha and Remthalas' insanity in Reawakening because Malerous was a F13 questline and Aegis' doubt wasn't sufficiently built up because no one wants to wait another year for FW which is what Valour realistically needed in order for Aegis' characterisation in that quest to work.

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There are way too many shortcuts, wasted potential and also overall confusion for me to like this.

Aegis' crisis is not buildup. It comes way too fast, and in Refuse, it is solved way too fast. Going from "Consume me, I am worthless" to "100% with you" with only our Hero using talk no jutsu and saying "You are not worthless" just feels rushed to conclude it. It would've made much more sense for Aegis to shield our Hero alone from Secundus nuking and that confidence allowing him to be more sure and our bond deeping. Our bond becoming stronger during the fight and of our own actions would fit better than Elpis coming out suddenly and just being deus ex machina. Elpis can appear after we have defeated Secundus. But defeating Secundus alone with Aegis would've made that work better and also explain Aegis' mindset.

Elpis is another thing that I just don't like. Elpis comes suddenly, and isn't really build-up either. Does it work in-lore? Eh. I guess if I don't think about it too much. But I liked Elpis just being a cape that showcased alternate universe shenanigans from Inn. I liked that. Just a fun what if for us to see. But them being a literal amalgamation that saves the day just feels cheap. It lessens the impact from Void Ship Saga, with Tomix now being back in another form. I get that it's not Tomix. But it still doesn't feel the same anymore. Same if Serenity came back as an amalgamation with Valtrith after we defeat Caitiff. It just wouldn't work and lessens the impact.

Secundus is also just now defeated and gone. Sure, it feels different for someone like me who has waited for a decade what was he planning, than a new player, but now it just seems that devs want this whole story arc to be almost done. And it's also just sudden. I didn't expect Secundus to be some kind of mastermind or major antagonist of Book 4, but something. At least something and not just being gone after two releases.

We also have multiple "quantum characters" with majority of the Weaving saga characters. Aegis, Riadne and Izaac now having two possible states means that we probably won't see them ever again or just in small roles. Maybe Riadne? But Izaac is either cured and angry with us, Aegis might be alive, Riadne might be someone without a partner, or happy with Izaac. And accounting that in future releases probably means it's easier to not just have them.

But also the biggest question and confusion I have with this. When is this supposed to take place??? It makes most sense to be pre-Book 3 finale, as Aegis being more confident after this fits his characterization. But is it after we come back to Greenguard that we meet Secundus? Before going to Victoria to inform about what happened in Dragesvard? There is no introduction to Secundus, there is nothing build up for our hero to even know or care about him. If it's post, Aegis' whole crisis makes even less sense and our hero would mention Jaania as a counterpoint to Aegis otherwise. But Aegis appears there. Unless the cutscene is edited heavily now without Aegis appearing, I don't know how it works.

But it has to be post TFW, because we go to Edelia and meet Danyel in main story. And during then, it is not abandoned. We meet Danyel before he dies. But then again, with the two-parter with Katia, there is no mention of Edelia being abandoned. We even meet the new principal! And the Mortem's soul issue is solved there, but whole Edelia stuff is just confusing. The whole timeline is now very inconsistent and something I haven't seen with DF in a long time. It is very confusing to try to understand what is going on with this. And another aspect that makes it seem that this was rushed so that it would be done.

I don't want to be too negative with the story, but I have very little positive to say about it. It doesn't fit anywhere, every major plot point is way too sudden and resolved just as quickly and the outcome is pretty meh. Piotr being gone as (possibly only) Fleshweaver is not really intriguing to me. And if his storyline will be as poorly executed as this, I don't feel any excitment for it.

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I detest that every spirit is fine with being consumed. It was executed well with Salla, but I can't say I liked any other quest. Secundus in particular was really soured for me by Perfection.

imo these weren't morally ambiguous enough, if anything fleshweaver route seems to be the "better" choice. Strange choice for the body horror class.

Also I wanted to eat Vitael and rid Lore of Belle, but alas it was not to be

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I was less than thrilled with the actual story, for reasons stated above by other players and in the last thread. The Valour quest drastically changes, and then quickly resolves characters' motivations in a way that's paced way too quickly to not be jarring. Information about the nature of Fleshweaver isn't ever actually revealed to the characters within the setting, so when Aegis starts asking you to eat him it seems completely nuts. Elpis is a deus ex machina that feels unearned. Secundus is initially portrayed as evil, but this is immediately forgotten about if you choose to side with him. It's very casually revealed that the Pupa killed off all the soulweavers, none of them were allowed to become ESes, and Edelia is abandoned - very large developments that are waved off as something that just happened off-screen the other day. And of course, the choice to write Secundus out of the story is disappointing because he was such a compelling character.

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There is no "upper echelon" of "endgamers and top ranked players" like you seem to think, and there is no hidden agenda of players going together form the same opinions

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If I hadn't, I wouldn't have found out about the option to choose Aegis, rather than Secundus -- and the opportunity to finally give him the beating both his components have been asking for, for the longest time. Mind you, it took me a bit of doing to administer said beating, but it still feels mighty good.

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I appreciate there's an option to get everything; soulweaving, fleshweaving, and Aegis.