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6/2/2012 2:22:46   
Death Jr
Member

During battle I always feel like a hunters shadow art increases their block to much. Discuss how you feel about shadow art and how you deal with it.
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6/2/2012 2:26:03   
RageSoul
Member

I find it okay since 1) It's luck-based , 2) It can get annoying but not when my opponent has super low DEX , 3) I can use Energy unblockables and , 4) Useful for BH in NPCing .
AQW Epic  Post #: 2
6/2/2012 3:46:28   
Killer666
Member

I find it a useless skill
Epic  Post #: 3
6/2/2012 10:12:48   
Stabilis
Member

How do I know when it is working when I do not block an opponent? I do not.
AQ Epic  Post #: 4
6/2/2012 11:20:54   
Clavier
Member

It's all about luck. And it helps to stun, too.
Epic  Post #: 5
6/2/2012 11:23:36   
rajkumar
Member

Make a build with more dex then your opponent simple!!! @Death jr i feel like today you faced many tank cyber hunters and lose to them badly :-P

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AQW Epic  Post #: 6
6/2/2012 11:39:00   
veneeria
Member

It is fine. You most like just have an extremely low dex for it to annoying.
AQ AQW Epic  Post #: 7
6/2/2012 11:56:23   
Stabilis
Member

Skill ≠ Luck

Bad skill, nice concept.
AQ Epic  Post #: 8
6/2/2012 15:27:40   
ReconnaisX
Member

SA can get annoying when high dexterity multi CHs use it. Other than that, I pretend it's not there.
MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 9
6/2/2012 15:40:27   
Joe10112
Member

I must have misread you OP.

I think you meant to say: "Shadow Arts is purely luck-based, and maxxed out it is only a 10% increase, and everyone with high SA already has high DEX anyway, so no one can tell if it's SA, unless a guy has like 7 SA and no DEX at all, and you get blocked."

SA is relatively UP, I MIGHT use it more if it also gave a +chance to connect, but for now, no one uses the Stun/Plasma grenades in the Hunter trees, therefore, the +stun chance is relatively useless, and the only other thing is +block chance, which is dubious.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 10
6/2/2012 16:08:40   
rej
Member

I find Shadow Arts to be extremely biased towards me- I rarely block when I need to, but almost constantly block attacks that would deal 3-5 damage.

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AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 11
6/2/2012 17:05:46   
Power Of The Chosen
Member

@rej

yeah ive noticed that too, ive got 91 dex and max shadow arts and i tend to block alot more against people who dont do so much damage. ive also noticed there are certain skills of my oppenent that i block pretty often.

< Message edited by Power Of The Chosen -- 6/2/2012 17:19:39 >
AQ MQ  Post #: 12
6/2/2012 20:23:38   
Midnightsoul
Member

Joe, reason being that no one uses stun grenades is because our EMP grenades are way better (especially compared to other energy drains) so it kinda balances out.

On topic:

SHADOW ARTS IS OP'ed?!?! LOL

It is a skill that you use your leftover skill points on...it is..nvm...go as a hunter urself and see
DF AQW Epic  Post #: 13
6/2/2012 21:09:36   
Power Of The Chosen
Member

LOL.... got called a hacker, and got reported .-. Ive got 91 dex + max shadow arts. i blocked like 5 moves in a row.

< Message edited by Power Of The Chosen -- 6/2/2012 21:10:04 >
AQ MQ  Post #: 14
6/2/2012 21:16:40   
Mr. Black OP
Member

Well with max block chance going down, perhaps SA's block chance should go down to. Maybe have every level instead of giving 1% chance have a .75% chance. Just to stop people from thinking they could have low dexterity and should still be able to block.

< Message edited by Mr. Black OP -- 6/2/2012 21:19:04 >

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Epic  Post #: 15
6/2/2012 21:43:31   
TankMage
Member

I've always found Shadow arts and other "luck increasing" skills to be fairly obselete. It still has to be remembered that even though these skills do increase the the chances of Critical, Block, Deflect ect. happenening it all comes down to wether or not the %'s are in your favor. The major block % is still currently decided by dexterity vs dexterity / 2.5 and not the Shadow arts 10% increase. Plus with all the unlockable skills / weapons out at the moment you can always base builds around not been able to be blocked which would render Shadow arts useless.
AQ Epic  Post #: 16
6/2/2012 21:57:45   
liy010
Member

@Mr.BlackOP No, it should not go down. SA is already UP as it is so no thanks.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 17
6/3/2012 0:36:03   
InceptionAE
Member

I think it's good as it stands.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 18
6/3/2012 19:26:18   
friend18
Member

I have 111 dex and max shadow arts and it seems to be doing its job. I think it's a skill that hunter's should have.
AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 19
6/5/2012 2:39:56   
Angels Holocaust
Member

It's all random. All the matches that I've been in I've had the highest dex and yet I'm always getting blocked or never get any blocks.
Post #: 20
6/5/2012 7:38:00   
Thylek Shran
Member

quote:

I find it a useless skill

Not useless but a pretty weak skill.
The skill points could be shared to more usefull skills.

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DF Epic  Post #: 21
6/5/2012 7:52:18   
rayniedays56
Member

I currently use a level 10 SA with my 5 focus tech abuse Cyber, and I block as much as I would with 100 dexterity.

Not useless, just needs a small buff perhaps.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 22
6/5/2012 18:21:05   
nico0las
Member

It's far more useful for the bounty hunters than the cyber hunters. Bounty hunters use smokescreen. This lowers dexterity. With shadow arts and 90+ dexterity (so not even that much), bounty hunters can make up for their lack of defenses in blocking, whilst a cyber hunter has plasma armor AND defense matrix.

To summarize this, when was the last time you saw a bounty hunter use energy shield, or a cyber hunter without plasma armor?
MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 23
6/5/2012 19:17:29   
steven11113
Member

Not lots of stun player with lvl 10 shadow art and it cost energy so stun it pretty much useless with 30% +10% - support less than your oppoment= even less. It have very low dmg too. Block chance require support requirement and it it waste ur skill point since it force u to increase to 42 support.


OVerall, i think u should keep it but add a bit like % more rage rate but have double requirement like 42 support and 42 strength at level 10 so it force people into 5 focus build

< Message edited by steven11113 -- 6/5/2012 19:19:34 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 24
6/5/2012 19:21:53   
Stabilis
Member

quote:

Overall, I think you should keep it but add a bit like % more rage rate but have double requirement like 42 support and 42 strength


Not just 1 stat requirement, but 2? Also keeping it to luck and some rage... I would avoid that skill "like the plague".

< Message edited by Depressed Void -- 6/5/2012 19:22:13 >
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