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Nex del Vida -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Unfolds! (6/3/2009 20:04:30)

Okay, fine. Five words:

Was the rail really four?




Denolth -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Unfolds! (6/3/2009 20:05:54)

I counted the number of squares of each one, the second puzzle and Falerin's latest surprise. Unfortunately, the resolutions didn't match, Nex. What would that be after all? =/




ringulreith -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Unfolds! (6/3/2009 20:08:11)

I heard somewhere in this thread somebody mention a "checkerboard something cipher", perhaps what this means? If it was in black and white, it would represent a checkerboard.




Lord Asrius -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Unfolds! (6/3/2009 20:56:19)

Gundisalvus: Does "one and one and one and one make four" sound familiar? It wouldn't be the first time they've misled us. For all we know Fal's computer encrypted it for him.




Nex del Vida -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Unfolds! (6/3/2009 21:03:51)

...But that clue was real, Asrius... it let us know we had to do one of each of the previous steps to solve that puzzle.

quote:


[20:27] Falerin: Some persons have no stamina
[20:28] Damsel: Indeed not
[20:28] Dragonnightwolf: hello falerin.
[20:28] Falerin: Good e'en Dragonnightwolf
[20:29] Dragonnightwolf: what can we do for you my lord?
[20:30] Falerin: It is not so much what you can do for me but what I can do for you
[20:31] Falerin: Which is at this point to slap into you some sense. Shayril's grid is what it says it is. A simple substitution cipher. You are grossly overthinking it.


Edited so as to contain only relevant information. It's a simple substitution cipher--like the first puzzle.




ArchMagus Orodalf -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Unfolds! (6/3/2009 21:36:30)

A version without colors, I think, may or may not help.




Lord Asrius -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Unfolds! (6/3/2009 21:38:23)

Oh, alright then.




Dragonnightwolf -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Unfolds! (6/3/2009 23:08:40)

l-r
many
van
nat
pat
at
son
eat
isn't
nano
hee
vow
tan
gal
ten
battleon
hot
add
he
liar
rash
shan't
zan
so
torea?
retoid?
who
dares
nescafe
****
lie
raisin
yera?
lea
now
it
han
zoo
mort
ape
red
aw
imps
son


U/d stuff

don't
taz
rag
tin
as
rat
diviara
pea
tan
get
not
nap
cant(without apostrophe)
ran
hasn't
lord
hue
hee
see
toe
no
rot
aw
at
he
aps(appears up down and left right)


cabbage
avacado
non
goon
rib
dim
goieln
grapes
ban
virin
blot
at
taz
tomatos
boo
big
hee
rutabegas
ant
sushi
lot
Twilly
Mae
cosmos
gem
should
oil
god
arc
name
put
dial
hag
bot
man
point
pin
pyson
han
ted
zed
net
his
tow
son
lil
rose
rows
ion
Devourer
orb
so
rub
on




Galrick -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Unfolds! (6/3/2009 23:09:45)

A monosubstitution does not have to replace letters with other letters. It can replace them with numbers.

2 1 7 might be a straight forward substitution for Bag for instance.

It can also replace it with characters.

   .


Could be a substtution for

The Hills have Eyes.




Falerin -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Unfolds! (6/3/2009 23:37:14)

MY FINAL CLUE:

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/R9fkh_7TKMlnB-okAVdAJg?feat=directlink

And my generosity is quite used up for this entire effort now.




Lord Asrius -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Unfolds! (6/3/2009 23:43:10)

See, the colors do matter.
So this tells us that possibly letters come in 3x3 grids.
Also, his image is [image]http://lh5.ggpht.com/_viriqqVN6ww/SidAU5XWoDI/AAAAAAAAF0k/MPj-EJsRE2I/q.JPG[/image]
EDIT: Link to the image with 3x3 squares outlined in red. Pic!
Any improper matching of lines is an artifact of Paint being evil.
EDIT EDIT: Whoops, it's also tiny. Fixing now...
EDIT EDIT EDIT: Dangit, still tiny. Dunno how to fix it, feel free to try.
EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT: Aaand now the picture's broken.




Nickwright -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Unfolds! (6/4/2009 0:09:12)

Well so I see letters in the grid Fal, but honestly I'm not seeing how that makes Q XD




Lord Asrius -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Unfolds! (6/4/2009 0:51:36)

I don't think there is a Q in there anywhere, so apparently we're meant to figure out what the patterns mean by ourselves. He said a simple substitution, so let's see....
Actually, I'm going back to Orodalf's black-and-white version. to look it over.
EDIT: Looks like a lot of the squares are rotated from each other. Could be insignificant, or it could be like the Cor-Dem runes.




Dragonnightwolf -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Unfolds! (6/4/2009 1:02:08)

I think I see a reversed K over there at the bottom just before the H in ho.






Kuld -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Unfolds! (6/4/2009 2:42:55)

Edit:
Hmm...Colours on a computers contains levels of various colours from 0 to 255...We could find these numbers for the colours in the chart...And then substitute the numbers for letters in the way Galrick hinted towards, maybe we'll get something.

Also! The same type of colours have a Hex code or whatever you want to call it, for instance, the blue square in the upper left corner has this Hex code: 191D89*, the green** closest to it has 6DD619.
I don't see why these are as they are, but I'm throwing it out here in hope that some of you can make sense of it.

*The colours being Red - 25, Green - 29 and Blue - 137
** Red - 109, Green - 214 and Blue - 25



Did anyone try rotating or flipping it yet? Also, maybe something will be revealed upon inverting the colours? *shrugs* just throwing out ideas, don't really have time for this now; damn school.


Also, here are the words from the first puzzle. (In no particular order)

http://s119.photobucket.com/albums/o133/Xeth-Ban/?action=view¤t=Progress2.jpg
quote:

Vandar
Madder
Amada
Warp
Pra'mithia
Haden
Virin
K'eld
Xilar
Celestia
Naab
Exo
Alorin
V'eld
Warpforce



And finally; did anyone try 'Haden' as they key in the puzzle where they keyword was the Viren leader?




Dragonnightwolf -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Unfolds! (6/4/2009 3:31:08)

http://www.ericharshbarger.org/cgi-bin/logolog.cgi?20060416

Observe that kuld!

And then look at this.

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/3691/helper.png

Look at it long enough and you will "See" what we in the irc discovered. (nick and clyde and them discovered it, but went to bed. your's truly is trying to de-code it now!)




Kuld -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Unfolds! (6/4/2009 3:35:02)

Wait, wasn't it stated that the colours in the "Helper" mattered? Also, unless the coloured/black cells in the helper represent the white spots, and the white cells in the helper represent the yellow ones, I can't see any connection.




Dragonnightwolf -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Unfolds! (6/4/2009 3:42:20)

if your looking....oh just come onto the irc mystery. it'd be easier to explain there!

Oh and before I forget.

After spending over an hour or so of looking. I've located these in the top row.

hi, F4(or possibly Y)PHU





Kuld -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Unfolds! (6/4/2009 3:46:26)

IRC seems to be blocked here at school, and I have stuff that I need to do anyways. Managed to find "hi" as well as soon as you mentioned it being there, so I am guessing the white cells in the helper equals the yellow squares in the Rubik font.




Dragonnightwolf -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Unfolds! (6/4/2009 3:47:45)

Exactly! That's what I was trying to tell you!




Dragonnightwolf -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Unfolds! (6/4/2009 3:48:46)

I've deciphered the first row already, two points of notice. 1. The words are crushed together.
and 2. You need to space them apart in order to tell what they are.




Kuld -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Unfolds! (6/4/2009 3:50:45)

Maybe you should fill out the squares that forms letters as you find them? You know, just in case it is needed or something.




Dragonnightwolf -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Unfolds! (6/4/2009 3:56:14)

(first of all, could a mod or archknight delete the top one of these two posts that are above me please? I'm tired and sick and I made a mistake and I didn't realize it until too late and I can't find the delete button right now. thank you!)

I think. what's best for now, kuld my friend.

Is "focus" on these hidden words first.

If we had need, of the actual other words currently, I'd say fill them in. But there's just 3 problems with that.

1. we don't know how or where to begin there. 2. we would be seemingly(for the time being) ruining our chances of solving the hidden parts by adding more "words" to the mix and confusing ourselves. and 3. Mr.Falerin has put his proverbial foot down and will not be assisting us in this particular puzzle any, longer!

So before we get distracted, and confused, just try working out what you can see. Btw, there's 2 x's and a y in the message as well as a Q.





Kuld -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Unfolds! (6/4/2009 4:00:04)

Not fill in more words - just fill the squares that forms the letters with a colour such as red to make it easier to see for other people or whatever. :P




Dragonnightwolf -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Unfolds! (6/4/2009 4:05:05)

well, you do what you think is best. I'm tired, I'm going to bed, and hopefully all the info I've provided, can help you.




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