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Lkeas -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/19/2009 16:21:14)

Well, there were spoons, but they didn't represent either a 1 or a 0. They were more like separators between each binary set.




ChrisX -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/19/2009 16:24:43)

Man! I want to help decode, but I have no idea how to...




marco mex -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/19/2009 16:32:46)

Um hi I have heard of warp force but I don't know where to go to play can anyone tell me?




Stelarinna -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/19/2009 16:33:30)

Well, I've been thinking (and reading) about the problem, and I've found three bits of information that might help, if you haven't already gone down those alleys:

It appears that S and Z were once Roman numerals in a variant which isn't used anymore, but not as powers of ten. Since all the groups are prefixed by either a S or Z or both, and I didn't see either letter inside a group, that might take care of the "leading forks". N was also used as a 0, though that might be coincidental.
And instead of replacing the numerals with their numeric equivalents, why not use the actual number? (i.e. translating MCX into 1110, instead of 100010010) Falerin mentioned the order of operations, and while concatenation (what you've been doing so far) is similar to addition, the results can be very different. But then what would one do with the Ns?

Anyway, even if all of this is relevant, the binary wouldn't work in a 64-base decoder. So it looks like I'm missing something too :P




ChrisX -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/19/2009 16:37:26)

Marco

Its not released yet. it'll be July 3rd, and its guardian testing for two weeks before full release.
But the website IS up.
www.warpforce.com




marco mex -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/19/2009 16:40:12)

thanks for the info (I have a feeling that this is gonna be EPIC.)




Lkeas -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/19/2009 16:49:03)

spoiler:

UPDATE - I believe the sixteen curses refers to hexadecimal code. If we analyze the roman numeral code you'll notice a distinct pattern - two sets of multiple-characters followed by a single M. I think the M might be a space between each hexadecimal pair. To make it easier to visualize I replaced each multi-character set with a single lowercase letter (randomly assigned) and each single M with a space:

ej df eb ad ej eg he dk bd bh he be bd ac hf bb bh eg he bc ec ea de bf hc hg ef ac ec ea bd ae ej ea ej ba bf df dh ba bh ha eb ac bd bh he ba ec eg hh ba ec ed hf aa bj hg bd ak bd df bd bj ec ea dh ae hc he bg bd hc hg bh ak bf ha aa ba ej eg ej bd bf be ef dj ec ea ag ad be ed hf aj bf df bd ae hc hg ef bb ej ed hf dd ec eg hj aa ej bh dc ac ec df ee ba ec eg hh ba ef ha dc bj bh ha dc ac hc he dj bd bf bh ef bg bd ac bd ba ec eg he aj bj eg he dk ec ea de dk hd ba dh dh

The two "dh" patterns at the end are suspicious. If the base64 clue is still in effect, those could very well represent =. In hexadecimal that would be "3d."

That would mean that SNXI ZSC translates to 3d.

Fal gave us some clues on IRC to help us figure out what Z, S, and N represent. If we set them to higher multiples of 10, N would be 10000, S would be 100000, and Z would be 1000000.

SNXI therefore translates to 110011. But there's not enough zeros there to make a binary code, so we add the "deleted forks" to the beginning to create 00110011, which equals 3!

Using this method the code translates to:

51 32 56 73 5a 58 4e 30 63 6d 45 6e 63 79 42 6f 64 58 4e 69 59 57 35 6b 49 48 52 79 59 57 6c 75 5a 57 51 67 62 32 34 67 64 47 56 79 63 6d 45 67 59 58 4d 67 59 53 42 77 61 48 6c 70 63 32 6c 6a 59 57 34 75 49 45 68 6c 49 48 64 70 62 47 77 67 5a 58 5a 6c 62 6e 52 31 59 57 78 73 65 53 42 71 62 32 6c 75 49 48 52 6f 5a 53 42 33 59 58 4a 77 5a 6d 39 79 59 32 55 67 59 58 4d 67 52 47 39 6a 64 47 39 79 49 45 31 6c 62 6d 52 68 63 79 63 67 59 58 4e 7a 61 58 4e 30 59 57 35 30 4c 67 3d 3d

Which translated from hexadecimal creates this:

Q2VsZXN0cmEncyBodXNiYW5kIHRyYWluZWQgb24gdGVycmEgYXMgYSBwaHlpc2ljYW4uIEhlIHdpbGwgZXZlbnR1YWxseSBqb2luIHRoZSB3YXJwZm9yY2UgYXMgRG9jdG9yIE1lbmRhcycgYXNzaXN0YW50Lg==

Which translates from base64 into this:

Celestra's husband trained on terra as a phyisican. He will eventually join the warpforce as Doctor Mendas' assistant.


Solved!




goron link8 -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/19/2009 17:05:10)

quote:

<goron> i really hope thenext mystery is a puzzlenot a word puzzle
<Falerin> be careful what you wish for
*** Falerin has left #mystery
<Lkeas> >.>
<goron> yay
<goron> woohoo
<Naamah> he is going to work on your wish!
<goron> thank you faelrin
<Aaron> Next you'll see a 5million piece puzzle
<goron> easy for me compared to the others
<Aaron> and half the pieces will be just varying shades of grey
<goron> i have alot ofpatience if i know what to do
<Aaron> and no it wouldn't be
<Lkeas> ugh
<Aaron> And he wouldn't tell you what the picture is
<Lkeas> please don't let it be one of THOSE puzzle
<Lkeas> *puzzles




brace yourself


oh and Faelrin i didn't wish for it but now i do

I hope it is a 5million piece puzzle and half the pieces will be just varying shades of grey

too bad i am not going to be here next week though[sm=puppy_dog_eyes.gif]




ArchMagus Orodalf -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/19/2009 17:48:05)

Huzzah! Good job, Lkeas!




Coldkick -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/19/2009 17:55:22)

Good job! Too bad I couldn't be there to help with this one. See you for the next puzzle!




goron link8 -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/19/2009 18:10:13)

i helped too




Lkeas -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/19/2009 18:40:15)

quote:

ORIGINAL: goron link8

I hope it is a 5million piece puzzle and half the pieces will be just varying shades of grey


Please don't be serious about this. 5 million pieces? That would be the equivalent of taking a 2236x2236 pixel image and scrambling every single pixel of it into some other position. To give you some perspective of just how hard that would be, I've taken a 853x1000 pixel image (that's 853,000 pieces) and scrambled it quite a bit. It's not quite as random as a jigsaw puzzle would be because there are still large chunks of pixels that are stuck together, but you get the idea.

http://i42.tinypic.com/2ytsd1h.jpg

If you can unscramble this image into its original picture i would be VERY impressed. [8D] And that's not even 1/5th the size of the puzzle you want! LOL




Coldkick -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/19/2009 18:44:56)

Lkeas I'll do it! (maybe) Lol I'll probably just separate each piece then do side recognition to put it back together.




ArchMagus Orodalf -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/19/2009 18:51:11)

You want us to put Yoda back together? Who broke him in the first place? (That's what it looks like to me. :P)




goron link8 -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/19/2009 19:14:19)

lkeas wrote
quote:

quote:

ORIGINAL: goron link8

I hope it is a 5million piece puzzle and half the pieces will be just varying shades of grey

Please don't be serious about this. 5 million pieces? That would be the equivalent of taking a 2236x2236 pixel image and scrambling every single pixel of it into some other position. To give you some perspective of just how hard that would be, I've taken a 853x1000 pixel image (that's 853,000 pieces) and scrambled it quite a bit. It's not quite as random as a jigsaw puzzle would be because there are still large chunks of pixels that are stuck together, but you get the idea.

http://i42.tinypic.com/2ytsd1h.jpg

If you can unscramble this image into its original picture i would be VERY impressed. And that's not even 1/5th the size of the puzzle you want! LOL


put it into a puzzle piece form or even squares and i will




Lkeas -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/19/2009 20:08:09)

Er... those ARE squares. Each PIXEL = 1 puzzle square. I guess I didn't scramble the pixels enough to give you an idea of just how HARD it would be. Let's try this again.

http://i39.tinypic.com/fkvdco.jpg

This is the exact same picture but the image is scrambled even more. This is closer to the idea of opening up a jigsaw puzzle with 800,000 pieces and dumping them on your carpet.




goron link8 -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/19/2009 20:12:53)

curse you lkeas ill never get them out
nooooooooooooooooo




Lkeas -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/19/2009 20:21:55)

Be careful what you wish for [;)]




goron link8 -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/19/2009 20:38:02)

but IF faelrin does it
it will be digital and not fall into the carpet so ha




Dragonnightwolf -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/19/2009 21:03:51)

If there's one thing I know for sure from falerin sneaking up on me when I least expect it, its be careful what you wish for because you just might get it.

And lkeas from what I can see, it isn't a picture of yoda. It' looks more like there's a blue shirt in there(or sweater) and I believe I see the face of a doll. I'm going to take a wild guess and say it's shrek.




Coldkick -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/19/2009 22:36:10)

OK Your al wrong it is the interior of a car. Cookie if I'm right. Anti-cookie if I'm wrong.




Vinger -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/19/2009 23:17:50)

Some messages are very strange.A very complicated mathematical thing to do to know that a terran is gonna work for a doc?Anyway,congratulations Lkeas.




Lord Asrius -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/19/2009 23:20:40)

goron: Maybe it'll fall into your computer or something? Doomed to wander eternally among the system files and ancient jellyfish backgrounds....
Also, Lkeas, is there some sort of program or something you scramble pictures with? Because on one hand I can't imagine anyone scrambling the second one by digital hand, but on the other a program would probably have some help unscrambling pictures.




DragonSlayerNinja -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/19/2009 23:37:00)

llekas, i think i solved it, is it a storm trooper????




mluther -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/20/2009 1:07:12)

i think it was a picture of a jigsaw puzzle.




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