RE: Strenght Mercenaries Haven't Been Nerfed, They've Been Buffed (Full Version)

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Lectrix -> RE: Strenght Mercenaries Haven't Been Nerfed, They've Been Buffed (4/11/2011 2:17:23)

I still don't understand why you think Bounty Hunters always go first. Even if they do go first, they tend to get Blocked when they apply Smoke Screen.



jegaggin -> RE: Strenght Mercenaries Haven't Been Nerfed, They've Been Buffed (4/11/2011 2:21:49)

really 0.0 bountys always hit



Lectrix -> RE: Strenght Mercenaries Haven't Been Nerfed, They've Been Buffed (4/11/2011 2:25:10)

Well MY Bounty Hunter always misses when he doesn't apply Smoke Screen. Then again, he's only Level 27...



goldslayer1 -> RE: Strenght Mercenaries Haven't Been Nerfed, They've Been Buffed (4/11/2011 2:29:03)

@lectrix
u do realize we are talking even plains and even stats? like lvl 32 full varium +95 total stat modifers?
BH never misses, (except maybe to like some crazy BH with like 150 dex max SA and use robot debuf when smoked)



Lectrix -> RE: Strenght Mercenaries Haven't Been Nerfed, They've Been Buffed (4/11/2011 2:41:50)

*Sigh* I'm tired of arguing. I still think Mercs are overpowered, and nothing will change my thoughts. You still claim that Bounty Hunters are overpowered, and, well... you're being just as stubborn as me. Both of us make some good points. So let's just agree to disagree, shall we?



jegaggin -> RE: Strenght Mercenaries Haven't Been Nerfed, They've Been Buffed (4/11/2011 2:42:32)

I disagree about agreeingto disagree!



goldslayer1 -> RE: Strenght Mercenaries Haven't Been Nerfed, They've Been Buffed (4/11/2011 2:43:06)

@lectrix
i been a BH and it was OP.
if i go BH right now, ill win just as fast a strength merc but at 90% while strength merc wins at 80% if they NPC. if they dont npc then its 70%.

@jega
lmao



Cookielord12 -> RE: Strenght Mercenaries Haven't Been Nerfed, They've Been Buffed (4/11/2011 4:59:19)

definitely nerfed. i played level 33 str merc, managed to block his stun. i assimilated so remove bezerk then i blocked his double hit, i did gun and i blocked his normal strike and finished with aux. the exact same thing happened yesterday. i was like O.o



jegaggin -> RE: Strenght Mercenaries Haven't Been Nerfed, They've Been Buffed (4/11/2011 5:02:17)

and then he was like -.-. thats why when i hit lvl 33 i went from the strength build to a more reliable support build



goldslayer1 -> RE: Strenght Mercenaries Haven't Been Nerfed, They've Been Buffed (4/11/2011 5:28:38)

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definitely nerfed. i played level 33 str merc, managed to block his stun. i assimilated so remove bezerk then i blocked his double hit, i did gun and i blocked his normal strike and finished with aux. the exact same thing happened yesterday. i was like O.o

u were a BH right?



Silver Sky Magician -> RE: Strenght Mercenaries Haven't Been Nerfed, They've Been Buffed (4/11/2011 8:25:16)

^

No, he is a tech mage. He said he 'assimilated' the opponent.



T.600 -> RE: Strenght Mercenaries Haven't Been Nerfed, They've Been Buffed (4/11/2011 8:30:39)

Someone can't spelll strength (looks at title) despite his big efforts to sound so smart at english,lol.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Strenght Mercenaries Haven't Been Nerfed, They've Been Buffed (4/11/2011 8:33:51)

@t.600
LMAO i just noticed that too.



TurkishIncubus -> RE: Strenght Mercenaries Haven't Been Nerfed, They've Been Buffed (4/11/2011 12:54:14)

They do a Lot crit i think its a bug because after they stun me they did always crit Zerker :S



Cookielord12 -> RE: Strenght Mercenaries Haven't Been Nerfed, They've Been Buffed (4/11/2011 12:54:48)

i am a mage



Deboise -> RE: Strenght Mercenaries Haven't Been Nerfed, They've Been Buffed (4/11/2011 14:07:35)

I agree with the starter of this topic 100%.....

str. mercs got affected on one stat.....str...

I, as an all around mage got affected and nerfed on every stat...str dex tech and sup...

so ya smthing needs to change..i have high life and for the first time every the mercs are able to two shot me even with my 120 life..

Deboise



He Who Lurks -> RE: Strenght Mercenaries Haven't Been Nerfed, They've Been Buffed (4/11/2011 15:09:30)

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@lectrix
the highest block rate in the game is 45% but with shadow arts u can go over that %


Incorrect, the highest block within the game is 40% and may only be increased further to a maximum of 45% with shadow arts. Also, let it be known that the base chance to block is 4%. For a BH to gain a 45% block rate, he/she would need to have over 123 dexterity(correct if I'm wrong) or 108 dexterity over their opponent. Smokescreen can go only go so far and in a realistic situation, a BH would need a huge amount of technology/dexterity to pull this off, which would end up hazardous for him or her.

Your argument about BH's being able to block a slew of attacks doesn't seem to be very realistic.



TurkishIncubus -> RE: Strenght Mercenaries Haven't Been Nerfed, They've Been Buffed (4/11/2011 15:10:18)

But hybrid Tech requirement and decrease the % of Berserker , that will solve the problem



goldslayer1 -> RE: Strenght Mercenaries Haven't Been Nerfed, They've Been Buffed (4/11/2011 16:07:32)

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incorrect, the highest block within the game is 40% and may only be increased further to a maximum of 45% with shadow arts. Also, let it be known that the base chance to block is 4%. For a BH to gain a 45% block rate, he/she would need to have over 123 dexterity(correct if I'm wrong) or 108 dexterity over their opponent. Smokescreen can go only go so far and in a realistic situation, a BH would need a huge amount of technology/dexterity to pull this off, which would end up hazardous for him or her.

Your argument about BH's being able to block a slew of attacks doesn't seem to be very realistic.


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The chance to block can never be less than 4% The chance to block can never be more than 45%

taken from the AQW How Things Are Calculated Guide
its 45% not 40%
shadow arts can exceed that 45% however.
i dont see how im wrong. u can go to the Q&A and ask for urself whats the highest chance of blocking


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But hybrid Tech requirement and decrease the % of Berserker , that will solve the problem

then reduce the % on mass.



He Who Lurks -> RE: Strenght Mercenaries Haven't Been Nerfed, They've Been Buffed (4/11/2011 17:20:25)

^Notice as I stated quote,
quote:

the highest block within the game is 40% and may only be increased further to a maximum of 45% with shadow arts.


Also, you contradicted yourself by stating,
quote:

shadow arts can exceed that 45% however.


When the quote clearly states that,
quote:

The chance to block can never be more than 45%


Never means never.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Strenght Mercenaries Haven't Been Nerfed, They've Been Buffed (4/11/2011 17:22:27)

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The chance to block can never be more than 45%

45% WITHOUT SA
now if u add shadow arts it can go over it.
upto 55%



He Who Lurks -> RE: Strenght Mercenaries Haven't Been Nerfed, They've Been Buffed (4/11/2011 17:40:46)

^No, you are wrong the max chance is 40% without SA and 45% with 5 or above level SA. The quote clearly says "never above 45%" yet you argue with the term "never"? Where does it say it doesn't include SA?



goldslayer1 -> RE: Strenght Mercenaries Haven't Been Nerfed, They've Been Buffed (4/11/2011 17:45:26)

@he who lurks
where do it say it does include SA?
its 45% without SA
add 10% from SA thats 55%.
try 150 dex build smoke and watch how u have insane block (may actualy block 100% for the whole match) im a witness to such horrible stuff, seeing how i been blocked 100% of the time by dex monkeys)
add SA and u get even worse results. (if ur the one fighting the dex monkey)



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