an idea to buff BM and nerf str TLM

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sylar67 -> an idea to buff BM and nerf str TLM (7/25/2011 8:13:20)
switching intimidate with smoke :) blood mages will have smoke tactical merces will have intimidate that way they wont be soo much oped and blood mages will get more often seen what do you think about that ? No flaming pls .

Luna_moonraider -> RE: an idea to buff BM and nerf str TLM (7/25/2011 8:22:31)
no and bad idea. smoke and reroute should be shifted to tier 4 for TLC mercs and BM should just get super crap aka super charge replaced with something else.

sylar67 -> RE: an idea to buff BM and nerf str TLM (7/25/2011 8:26:43)
luna :) supper charge is one of the best skills i use as mage believe me ;) and i wish its never replaced . and why is it a bad idea ? bcz mages ( blood mages ) will have 1 working build added to 2 half working ones and merces (tact/normal merces) will lose 1 out of 10z of working builds ?

TurkishIncubus -> RE: an idea to buff BM and nerf str TLM (7/25/2011 9:42:10)
BM dont need buff its a good class for 5 focus , TLM dont need nerf , just because you cant win doesnt mean its oped im losing alot in a day. But CH needs buff , its way too uped , the only passive they have is luck related and have 42 supp req.If they dont do 5 focus than they will not have any passives :/

pistol star -> RE: an idea to buff BM and nerf str TLM (7/25/2011 9:48:25)
@Sylar You made me LOL so hard, Think in advance of giving BM SmokeScreen. They would be way OPED, STR BM would use fireball,Berzerker and smokescreen as their build think about it all them skills I listed (Except SmokeScreen) Are physical which means they would just have to use a STR build with,5-7 Smoke screen, 1 berzerker and like 4-6 fireball, This class would be totally OverPowered I personally Dissagree 100% with this idea There is no need to nerf TaM just buff CH ~Pistol~

sylar67 -> RE: an idea to buff BM and nerf str TLM (7/25/2011 9:59:46)
pistol :) you made me loollll soo hard as if smoke with stun and double strike and frenzy isint oped -_- blood mage will be the same -_- @ turkish : so you think a class with only 1 build working is a good class ? :O

kwj3 -> RE: an idea to buff BM and nerf str TLM (7/25/2011 10:02:58)
Tlm=They have reroute so why not give their hybrid armor a stress full thing. HA 12+ to def and res All the damage that they do will reduce their energy example Enemy does 50 damage (physical) Your def 18-22 +12 The computer takes account def first Then HA 50-22=28-12=26 The reduction is 12 and 25% of 12 is 3 so the Merc loses 3 energy. If the energy requirement is not taken then Hybrid is turned off. No requirement to turn on (no turn cost) BM Good enough to with stand heavy dmg CH BAM WEAK.

Calogero -> RE: an idea to buff BM and nerf str TLM (7/25/2011 10:04:00)
I find it funny how Adding anything at all would consider BM to be overpowered... Fact of the matter is, Most people here that are Tacts ( except those few ) Don't want BM or any other class to be buffed in anyway due to the fear of getting losses... All they want is Their OPness and their crap motto ' Can't beat them, Join them "

TurkishIncubus -> RE: an idea to buff BM and nerf str TLM (7/25/2011 10:16:49)
quote: @ turkish : so you think a class with only 1 build working is a good class ? :O Man all classes is like that , TM - Support , BH-5 Focus , CH - 5 Focus , Merc - 5 Focus , BM - 5 focus , TLM - Support + Str + 5 focus If you say BH's can do str you are wrong , after TLM come BHs no longer the str class, Also str mercs nerfed , And 5 focus mage realy has bad ratio. If we act like your "1 build isnot enough idea" than 5 classes need buff :/

sylar67 -> RE: an idea to buff BM and nerf str TLM (7/25/2011 12:05:09)
^ i ddnt say anything about bhz and merc still have the 2 hit stun zerker and they still have the support build and the tech build bh still have str and some few with a working support build :) mages have 5 focus not all mages are support ... and i support ANDY'z post quote: I find it funny how Adding anything at all would consider BM to be overpowered... Fact of the matter is, Most people here that are Tacts ( except those few ) Don't want BM or any other class to be buffed in anyway due to the fear of getting losses... All they want is Their OPness and their crap motto ' Can't beat them, Join them "

Remorse -> RE: an idea to buff BM and nerf str TLM (7/25/2011 12:08:15)
BM are fine, It' CH that are buried alive. TLM needs to be switched around with CH in my opinon Give CH Hybrid and swap it fro defence matrix for the TLMs

Zean Zapple -> RE: an idea to buff BM and nerf str TLM (7/25/2011 12:10:50)
You have my STAMO OF DISAPPROVAL! ~Zean

sylar67 -> RE: an idea to buff BM and nerf str TLM (7/25/2011 12:26:32)
@ remorse BM isint fine and CH is a bit fine with the str build a friend of mine got 1vs1 daily last week with about 600-700 wins and 85% i dont think thats bad :)

InceptionAE -> RE: an idea to buff BM and nerf str TLM (7/25/2011 12:28:37)
Do you realize you're now making BM Op'ed? They have bloodlust, and deadly aim. With smoke you'll make them King of the STR builds.

Dendavex -> RE: an idea to buff BM and nerf str TLM (7/25/2011 12:33:24)
In the testing of the 3 new classes they had malfunction they were OPED and heal lots of HP so the chances of them having smoke screen is 0 :/

Remorse -> RE: an idea to buff BM and nerf str TLM (7/25/2011 12:34:00)
Ive lost to a BM that makes them fine. I havnt lost to a cyber bunter yet, i have versed alot! Blood mages havd a great set of skills and perfect for counteracting Oped builds, eg. str bulds with intim and reflex.. Cyber hunters have: No good passive that is always used, Only a select few good skills. Blood mages have a killer Focus build.

Calogero -> RE: an idea to buff BM and nerf str TLM (7/25/2011 13:04:31)
Imo, BloodMage has 4 potentional Builds but lacks the strenght to be succesfull Dex: We have Overload and Super Charge, to say the least they both are crap so if those 2 skills got a small buff, Perhaps more BM's would go to DEX builds and that way the Normal Mages would get a certain buff aswell Str: It works but you'd have to put a Dam great deal of stats onto Str to make it work which makes the defences and resistance Very Very low shure DA and BL will help but eather THEY'LL simply outdamage you or you won't hit high enough Tech: Plasma Cannon the so called Energy Bunker Buster is nothing like it... I don't know it's because it's Energy or not but I hit a lot less than a Merc with Bunker Buster (and that is AFTER Technician). Eather that or it's because Resistance is faster to train than Defences 5 Focus: Like you said Turkish, the only build that has a succesfull rate but then again isn't this the build we all prevent using due to relying on Gamma Bot then?

DillBagel -> RE: an idea to buff BM and nerf str TLM (7/25/2011 13:43:13)
Blood mages will never get a debuff move that drops dex or tech. I know for a fact that they tested that when they first made the classes. Blood mage was unstoppable with either of those debuffs.

TurkishIncubus -> RE: an idea to buff BM and nerf str TLM (7/25/2011 14:21:50)
quote: ^ i ddnt say anything about bhz and merc still have the 2 hit stun zerker and they still have the support build and the tech build bh still have str and some few with a working support build :) mages have 5 focus not all mages are support ... and i support ANDY'z post Sry i writed wrong , there should be a "will" , If you will say BH's can do str you are wrong ... Mercs dont have 2 hit stun zerker , Mercs dont have supp build and BH dont have str or supp build(bh never had supp build different than 5 focus) Proof: Let me explain like this , Which one is better? Merc 2 hit Zerker vs Str TLM - Str TLM wins Supp Mercs vs Supp TLM - supp TLM wins BH str vs str TLM - str TLM wins TLM do these builds better than Merc and BH thats why most ppl changed to TLM , Those builds are no longer exists , belive or not there is only Support TM - TLM and Str TLM remained different than 5 focus.

sylar67 -> RE: an idea to buff BM and nerf str TLM (7/25/2011 14:36:29)
i bet you that support merc against str tact merc is better then support tact merc vs str tact merc :) and there is still few merces with the stun zerker that i face the ones with energy club still pawn today i faced a support bh with 100 support he beated me with 2 criticals and str bhz are still many of them not with the same 92+% but a smooth 80% one :) and btw you saying that tact merces are soooooooooooooooo OPED so that means they really need that nerf ;) xD

jarrenh1 -> RE: an idea to buff BM and nerf str TLM (7/25/2011 14:48:50)
Here's how i look at it, no matter what class you are i will kill you this is coming from a bounty hunter However i will note that i have been playing semi consistently since the three new classes and i have only fought one CH

PowerMega -> RE: an idea to buff BM and nerf str TLM (7/25/2011 14:59:34)
Lmao when people say blood mages are fine. I'll admit that Blood Mages best skill is plasma cannon, whoopdie doo. Though even so, the fact of the matter is, when it comes down to it Blood Mages tend to be fragile when going against stat abuse builds or any real hard hitter. Also personally, I dont think they can tank that well, you can give them that 5 focus net build but factor of the matter is, Tactical Merc just do it better and when Cyber Hunter gets boost, that would just put the Blood mages behind. Another thing, about supercharge....I used to rep that back at the lower lvls and thought it was a nice surpise but soon realized as i moved up it was so underpowered. Like no how matter much I tweaked dex and tech , even if my stats were that superior to my opponent, i never mangaed to hit in the 60 range in "pvp" like its suppose to. Also , very likely, by time someone even uses super charge, its probally there last gamble and then they hit like a 40 or less cause people tend to have high dex these days...womp. Please replace that garbage spell, Blood Mages can and should do better. Btw, Bounty Hunters literally rape blood mages with poison and then call it day, no no matter what build your using and lets not forget the emp grenade, gf blood mage. Also, a Blood Mage running a 5 focus build is a fool, because no matter how i look at, any of the other classes can run it better and that is fact if the opposing side knows what they are doing.

Shadowlord9k -> RE: an idea to buff BM and nerf str TLM (7/25/2011 15:08:55)
Blood Mage Is supposed to be a glass cannon.

PowerMega -> RE: an idea to buff BM and nerf str TLM (7/25/2011 15:20:22)
Then a glass cannon has no room to compete then if thats the case when looking at current builds from other classes, Blood Mage needs a boost definitely

pistol star -> RE: an idea to buff BM and nerf str TLM (7/25/2011 17:03:30)
@sylar I bet you are not TaM because if you were you wouldn't be flaming them,it's a game. Like the old motto says "if you can't beat them join them" why don't you do this, oh yeah I forgot you just want to flame the class that you cant beat. -Pistol

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