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Victoran -> favorite/ most hated class (11/3/2011 16:06:17)

Ok this is just a thread designed to ask people to say there favorite class / most hated class this IS NOT a war thread based around the ideas of a class being to powerfull or what class you think is the most powerfull I dont care how powerfull the class is if its your least liked class then dont put it as your favorite :) and if you want to ( encouraged! ) put why you like/ hate the class in question

Mine are currently

Favorite = Blood Mage , I started as a mercenary moved on to tactical then to cyber and am currently a blood mage. So far the blood mage has been the most fun despite shortcomings against the obvious.. my favorite part is that for one I love the look ( look at my char to see why :P heh ) along with the face I like mages and I like beating stuff up soo .. its a class that combines the two!

Hated = Tactical merc , Im not saying this as a attack on how OP it is I dont like it because its something everybody sees on a constant basis and it is SO boring to play the builds are all unoriginal and players using the class look like they came off a assembly line using similar equipment/ stats/ enhancements. Thats why I mainly dislike the class because its become to seen, unoriginal, dull and bland!.

anywho .. thats my two cents and remember no flaming trolling or hating on another class for being op ( sorry if my post about tact seems so there just observations not an attack )




Basicball -> RE: favorite/ most hated class (11/3/2011 16:12:35)

Fav: BH, my starting class, and stilol the class i like most, if i wouldn't have the need of change every once in a while, i'd still be one
Least: merc, idk why, but i just don't like fighting mercs, maybe because they are generally tankers, and handeling 2 tankers at once (yes, i still do jugger fights) is pretty hard



Algorithm -> RE: favorite/ most hated class (11/3/2011 16:35:49)

My favorite class is Tech Mage ;P.



hardcore59 -> RE: favorite/ most hated class (11/3/2011 16:39:46)

im pretty sure the most hated doesn't need an answer it's TLM



PivotalDisorder -> RE: favorite/ most hated class (11/3/2011 16:40:48)

Fav: Mage, harder to make working creative builds with than they used to be, but still the most powerful class IMO :)
Least: the clonemerc class.



Victoran -> RE: favorite/ most hated class (11/3/2011 16:57:46)

@hardcore i dont care about the most hated combat wise.. I want your personal opinion on the most boring dumb class/ not the class which is hated for being overpowered -.-

@psi Nice name so does this abuse problem possibly have earned the title " attack of the clones?" xD



hardcore59 -> RE: favorite/ most hated class (11/3/2011 17:09:30)

that's the point TLM



Calogero -> RE: favorite/ most hated class (11/3/2011 17:28:53)

Fav: Mages in general... Started as a Tech Mage, now a Blood Mage

Least: Tact merc... That class can go to hell for all I care...



zenix -> RE: favorite/ most hated class (11/3/2011 17:29:37)

Most loved: Bounty Hunter
Most hated: Tech Maged - have some very evil reminders of them when facing them, no matter what class i played [:)] Second in command are the 2 merc classes, as
they're always a challenge without creativity (meant in an ambivalent way).


quote:

does this abuse problem possibly have earned the title " attack of the clones?" xD

I think it's more like: Star... eh... Duel Wars "The Clone Wars". And if you remember the movies or even the books, at the end those boneheads lost [;)]



AQWPlayer -> RE: favorite/ most hated class (11/3/2011 18:08:52)

Favorite: Tech Mage
Hated: TLM, BH, and CH



altimatum -> RE: favorite/ most hated class (11/3/2011 18:14:58)

favorite: bh/tm
least: TLM....it's just so overused and i can't find any fellow bh's....



FrostHS -> RE: favorite/ most hated class (11/3/2011 18:21:50)

Fav:Cyber
Hated:TLM As someone said before, Totally agreed they can go to hell for all I care too



Wootz -> RE: favorite/ most hated class (11/3/2011 18:48:08)

Favourite: Cyber Hunter
Most Hated: Tactical Mercenaries.
Troll alert:
DOOD WUT IZ TAKTIKAL ABUT DEM! /Troll



supermasivo -> RE: favorite/ most hated class (11/3/2011 19:05:22)

Dude i hope this thread get closed couse i allways see the same people trolling/flaming (not allowed) like Andy and speedy... allways same people flaming against TLMS... dude if u hate them so much just make a class change and feel happy for once in your life OMG.

On Topic:
Fav: Merc/TacMerc: Specially 5 focus mega tanker but too too too slow (100% win rate) and my super mega STR tlm for a 90-95% win rate but super speed killing.
My seconde fav class are CH, that class rulz... i played and i liked it.

Hated: couse its boring BH and BM... u flame on TLMS but Blood mages only build ive ever seen are STR BM as a effective build and BH boring class only S.A block chance lucky rely.



Calogero -> RE: favorite/ most hated class (11/3/2011 19:30:53)

No Class should have a 100% winrate, just for that I hope the sledgehammer comes soon.
Just saying...



Wootz -> RE: favorite/ most hated class (11/3/2011 19:36:33)

  • 100% ratio. That is insane.
  • I alerted everyone for my trollnes, you could just skip it.
  • I did make a class change, but I gotta hand it to you, getting the 2nd turn, on an opponent higher level then you who has a lot lower ammount of Support is stupid.
  • Too lazy to type more reasons, although they'd mostly refer on stats and luck.
    Speedy out.



    • supermasivo -> RE: favorite/ most hated class (11/3/2011 19:42:18)

    ^ 100% winrate? not impossible. a tanker build can have it easy but too slow, very very slow killing, thats why i use str only now, bad? i lose a lot more but speed is better than win ratio IMO.
    now, i tested cyberhunter and with a decent amount of defense/res semitank/str physical armor can make >90% and own easy TLMs... very nice class to play indeed.



    PD -> RE: favorite/ most hated class (11/3/2011 19:52:37)

    A 100% win rate is possible by doing NPC's 100% of the time.

    And can we please get some numbers to prove that the classes are overpowered/underpowered?



    supermasivo -> RE: favorite/ most hated class (11/3/2011 20:04:42)

    not talking npcing, im talking 1vs1 with real ppls...
    And true tlms still Oped, but can we do now? devs and their team has nerfed support and str so many times till then... so what can we do.
    u have to take a look leaderboard solo battles (today's) and u will see most of TLMs, that is a gud prove.
    when i changed to cyber i get tired of being owned by tlms so i went back to tlm again couse tlm = fast kill, high stats thanks to HA, easy battles allways :S and that's why almost everybody is tlm... everybody likes to win (human nature).



    PD -> RE: favorite/ most hated class (11/3/2011 20:10:22)

    But why are they overpowered? Can you mathematically prove that they are better than every single other class?

    And people being Tactical Mercs on the leaderboard has NOTHING to do with them being overpowered. Correlation does not mean Causation.

    And you should try an anti-Tactical Merc build if you keep getting owned by them. And if you physically and mathematically cannot win, then you should go into the balance thread to holistically and intelligently proof un-refutable evidence that Cyber Hunters are too weak against Tactical mercs.

    Also, define overpowered please.



    One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: favorite/ most hated class (11/3/2011 20:26:59)

    PD in the words of BigTuna an OP'ed build is one in which you can get a 95% win rate with little to no thought



    AQWPlayer -> RE: favorite/ most hated class (11/3/2011 20:29:41)

    Overpowered: to have excessive power in comparison to other classes, thus gaining an unfair advantage over them.



    H4ll0w33n -> RE: favorite/ most hated class (11/3/2011 20:38:29)

    Favourite: BH, their just cool...
    Hated: Mercenaries and Tactical Mercenaries, their too fat :O



    Midnightsoul -> RE: favorite/ most hated class (11/3/2011 20:38:47)

    fav: Cyber Hunter and Blood Mage
    i can't decide! ah!!!
    hate: tlm, it's so obvious. why look at everyone else! xD



    PD -> RE: favorite/ most hated class (11/3/2011 20:39:09)

    A high win rate tells you nothing about how good a build is because it does not reflect actual skill. It only refers to how many battles you have one. Correlation is not causation.

    Now if think that that Overpowered is when a build wins 95% of the time... you have no clue what they are talking about. You do not know what balance is, nor do you know how to fix it, and what the definition of significant balance terms are. A win rate does not reflect your skill nor the build you currently use. It does not reflect your build's power nor does it reflect how much money you spend on the game. It does not indicate yourself and/or your build being overpowered nor underpowered. It tells you nothing about balance logistics. It only roughly tells you how many times the RNG has worked in your favor.

    Luck factors are also abroad so your every move is gambled by the RNG, making it so you do not decide how a battle goes - The RNG decides that for you. And the RNG doesn't control just luck factors - It controls your damage rolls, your defense rolls, and your opponent's attack and defense rolls as well. Even static skills are affected by the RNG Because it generates a damage based on your damage range. It even decides what people you fight, and when you fight. Without 100% certainly of every battle factor, win rates do not tell us anything about how you play or how much money you've put into the system because we can only think of what you have done rather than what you have really done unless the person confirms this. And in any which, the person will not realize what that data means.

    A high population doesn't change how a class works. The skills have not changed and the stats have not changed. Only the amount of people has changed. Strategy may be different, but that does not change how a skill works with its stats and vice versa. A different application doesn't change the makeup of a build or a stat and skill.



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