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Shadronica -> RE: Price and Expectations (11/24/2011 20:54:06)

Thank you for posting Cindy. I do understand that like any business it is profit based and I do not begrudge anyone that. However my thoughts are that if the prices were reduced it would make the game popular again therefore a smaller profit from many would be much better than a medium to large profit from a few. Especially in regards to ED as I do find it is not even on a comparative level with the other AE games.

Cindy it would very much be appreciated if you could perhaps bring this thread to Titan and Nightwraith's attention. Unless they and perhaps further up he heirarchy are made aware then the problem will never be addressed. If it is going to be addressed at all.




goldslayer1 -> RE: Price and Expectations (11/24/2011 21:09:55)

so quick question.
what are the chances of ED having a 50% price discount for cyber monday?




Matrix77 -> RE: Price and Expectations (11/24/2011 21:17:13)

0.000000001% gold :P




Epic Pwnser -> RE: Price and Expectations (11/24/2011 21:35:57)

Read through all the posts (didn't even try PD's, way too long and complicated for the average teenager).
quote:

There is a vicious internal cycle with support (eg. More staff) and profit.

Uh yep. That pretty much sums up that.
And there definitely should be some sort of 50% discount for cyber monday for all packages. We in a recession right?

And like the days before the 2011 where forumers discussed this and went away forgotten (Wiseman's plan), there needs to be a change to this pricing structure for varium packages.

quote:

Average Gear Cost:

Armor: 995 (Non Rare)
Primary: 995 (Non Rare)
Sidearm: 995 (Non Rare)
Auxiliary: 995 (None Rare)
Robot: (1200 + 1900)/2 = 1550

995*4 = 3980

Enhancement Cost:

1200*4 (excluding testing phase promo's (founder/delta)) = 4800 -- Enhancements cost 800 more then all the gear itself with an added (very expensive) robot

4800 + 3980 = 8780 -- All non-rare gear (besides Yeti which was averaged) with the standard enhancement price applied.

Then you have enough money for 1 Varium Perk:


10,000 - 8780 = 1,220

Class Change: 1,220 - 900 = 320 (So you get 6 New Varium Style/Color Changes) -- Not able to use you varium for any new equipment
Inventory Space: 1,220 - 775 = 470 (So you get 9 New Varium Style/Color Changes)
Name Change: 1,220 - 1100 = 120 ((So you get 9 New Varium Style/Color Changes)

This is STANDARD cost, roughly at its lowest for a maxed out Varium Player.

How long does this standard issue equipment last? About 3-4 weeks if you are lucky. EpicDuel updates with a rare event every 1-2 Months. Rare/Seasonal rare equipment is considerably more.

Armor: 1250 (Rare/Seasonal)
Primary: 1500 (Promo/Seasonal) (Frosty))
Sidearm: 995 (Seasonal)
Auxiliary: (1500 + 2200)/2 (Rare/Seasonal) = 1,850
Robot: (1900 + 1500)/2 (Rare (2/3)) = 1700


Standard Issue +8 Enhancements = 4800

4800 + 1250 + 1500 + 995 + 1,850 + 1700 = 12,095 (12,100) Varium For a Maxed set of rare Varium Equipement

2 months later better equipement will be released, and a 6 Months later the equipment will be considered outdated.

Please remember 12,100 does not take into account the purchase of ANY varium perk besides equipment.


I also understand not everyone purchases solely rare gear or standard issue varium gear. So an average?

(12,100 + 8,780)/2 = 10,440 -- The average epicduel varium player will pay more then 10,000 varium ($50) for a full set of Varium gear, and will have to pay even more for any kind of Varium perk.

This game really does cost far to much, and as frogbones/gold/andy have already said, this is a 2D web based flash game. Furthermore the staff continually uses the excuse that "we are but a small 2D web based flash game with 2 coders and an artist, don't expect much." The root of this problem is how much you charge. You cannot expect us to "not expect much" when we are paying such a high premium. If you have no control over the prices, you need to change that. Your players are not happy, and until they are you should be doing everything in you power to get that fixed.


Hope I set some things straight, this is outrageous. All of you who disagree will someday come to see ;)

And just to bring this from the first page so everyone can take a gander at it.




Algorithm -> RE: Price and Expectations (11/24/2011 21:35:58)

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