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Labyth -> RE: =HS= Power Balancing for PvP (updated Feb 9th) (2/4/2012 17:43:01)
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Alright, there is a power which is quite OP. I been in pvp a lot lately and all I have seen in power defense, 3v3, and royal are Ice barrage users using the same build. Let me give you a couple of examples of these OP builds. Basically they all surround a skill that quite strangely, they all have. People say that they have the right to use that skill since well, they worked so hard to get it. At first I thought that was true, that if you work hard for something you should use it without a care in the world. Then I keep thinking; wait a second 3v3 is harder, royal is harder, but pd isn't that hard.
To complete 3v3 you must work as team. If your team doesn't cooperate (which is most of the time) it’s likely you will lose ‘cause after all you usually don’t know the people on your team, as well as healing in 3v3 causes you to lose points, making it especially harder. In royale, it’s every man for themselves. You mess up one time and you could lose your points and your chance of being ahead. It can be quite hard to win when you know everyone is against each other. Again I thought, pd isn't hard it’s just time-consuming. I mean let’s say that every match you do in pd is about 10 minutes or so, in the end all you have to do is wait in a circle and survive. Here is a build: focus, healing touch, molecular reconstruction, pulsar beam, and warrior spirit. Use it and you can stay in that circle for while, all you do is wait there with not much of a challenge. The skill itself surpasses Yergenism which is the royal veteran skill and Shadow slice which is the 3v3 veteran skill-they don't stand a chance in a 1v1 fight against Ice barrage. Why? Let’s see the facts: Ice barrage damage plus Yergenism increase which is 10% more, even if you do 40% more on yourself you cannot compete with Ice barrage’s speed and damage. Now let’s look at the other skill Shadow slice-its decrease does not cover the haste buff or the chance of strike making it pointless since all you have to do is wait it out. The skill itself surpasses the other skills. Now let’s look at how our fellow players use this OP power.
Well I’ve been fighting many pvpers and talked with many. Those who have the skill tend to be protective of it and hope that it doesn’t get nerfed, since they have come to rely on it. This skill makes many pvpers rely on it because of the greatness it provides. So what I did is study how our fellow players use this skill-I watched their builds(combos and ways they use certain skills, meaning their style) closely. I’m going to use popular players that you guys might know and say their builds. It probably might be wrong to say other people’s powers but to prove my point, I will use names and builds and you will all see why they have gotten to where they are.
White Beard: Ice barrage, …of ice, pony charge, fashion sense, dum luck
xxFbixx: Ice barrage, fashion sense, pandora grace, pony charge, eye boil
The Dream: Ice barrage, fashion sense, pony charge, bash, death touch
Qin: Ice barrage, fashion sense, pony charge, stupefacio, …of ice
Qaaii uses one of these same builds.
Swagg11 just changes the …of ice for shadow slice
Hiro uses shadow slice as well
Jaggath putih uses taser, unless I mixed that one up.
And some people use toreado.
But basically, they all use Ice barrage and the same combo of pony charge and fashion sense, because that combo pretty much heals you while Ice barrage’s buff helps your fashion sense to heal you, and pony charge to stop people from killing you. There are more that that but some cross my mind, and the thing about Ice barrage is that it doesn’t give others the opportunity to have fun. For example, some of the people on the leaderboard hang around Jemini server since most of the new players go there, and they take advantage of those that are there to pvp for fun and take the fun away. So my suggestion is to not remove Ice barrage but to nerf it. Some of the people that agree with me will post their thought after mine, and some will agree with it while others might not but this is how I propose they fix it:
4 ways
-Cut the damage in half and haste in half and remove the debuff
-Remove damage and just leave the buff and debuff (since that’s what would make it equal to the other 2 veterans power)
-Take the buff away and just leave the debuff and damage
-Increase cooldown time and energy cost by 2.5x the normal (that would make it more manageable and fair)
All those that agree with me will post the word Leviathan after this post meaning that they will refer to my post on why Ice barrage should be nerfed.
I would also would like to say that most people who tend to refer to other skills saying those should also be nerfed forget the fact that the reason they become overpowered is that the build those powers are in includes Ice barrage. Ex: some say pony charge or stun need nerfing but in the end the reason is because of Ice barrage’s haste buff.
Even some people who have Ice barrage agree with me.
Okay i been inform on something quite particular. the information receive was ice barrage haste was never included in the skill preview meaning ice barrage haste isn't meant to be their meaning if it isn't meant to be their it should be remove prove of fake buff that shouldn't be their
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