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xxmirxx -> RE: Achievements Unavailable to Fac Founders (1/7/2012 15:29:01)

I just blue star seen seriously that sucks you get one 1 star what happens to there 7 stars. I just see this another useless thing and for people to leave faction for achievement thats low and hurtful to faction founder.




Cinderella -> RE: Achievements Unavailable to Fac Founders (1/7/2012 15:33:01)

@Buffy- because the fact that we're having this discussion means that trying to reward someone for remaining loyal to their own alignment is obviously not working. All of this also depends on what Titan is willing to build.

@Sunguardian- I only said something about war bosses. Don't put words in my mouth unless I'm officially announcing something.





Sipping Cider -> RE: Achievements Unavailable to Fac Founders (1/7/2012 15:55:28)

Ok, only war bosses can be fought by both sides. Sorry for jumping to conclusions.

The best sounding idea to me is just make it so only one sides mission can be done and erase all completed missions from the war from those who did both, that way they can do at least one side again.




TurkishIncubus -> RE: Achievements Unavailable to Fac Founders (1/7/2012 16:07:29)

so to get more rating i have to betray my faction LOOOOL, whenever i say this game cant be more unfair Devs find new ways to do that thx... :D




Nub Apocalypse -> RE: Achievements Unavailable to Fac Founders (1/7/2012 22:00:46)

I'm more into the "Turncoat" idea. In war, if someone manages to escape punishment in the first place, it is highly possible they receive their punishment later; i.e after the war. So the situation this puts us in is 'too bad for the people who already betrayed their alignment', might seem unfair, but I think this just makes it realistic and the "loyalty of a person" *cough* greed for rating will be displayed on people's achievements. I think it'd be interesting knowing who was greedy for rating points and who wasn't.




Oba -> RE: Achievements Unavailable to Fac Founders (1/8/2012 14:55:17)

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I'm more into the "Turncoat" idea. In war, if someone manages to escape punishment in the first place, it is highly possible they receive their punishment later; i.e after the war. So the situation this puts us in is 'too bad for the people who already betrayed their alignment', might seem unfair, but I think this just makes it realistic and the "loyalty of a person" *cough* greed for rating will be displayed on people's achievements. I think it'd be interesting knowing who was greedy for rating points and who wasn't.


Exactly. Lets take real war as an exampel, as it seems like the devs want this ED war as realastic as possible. Do you think that someone tell them that "if you switch alignment you will get punished"? They may do, but it is still obvious that IF you are a traitor, you will get punished. I do not see it as unfair for those who already have switched alignment, those who already done it should get both their war cheevos deleted (Legions bane and Krampus Slayer) + a "Turncoat" achievement which not should be -2000 rating(as that was a good suggestion, Wiseman), more likely -5000 ratings.

If not punish these players who have done this, then I see it as fair to give those who stayed in their alignment a reward. "The Trustable" maybe? This would most likely be hard to do, so I still see it as better to just punish these few players who have got both achievements.




IsratMaruf95 -> RE: Achievements Unavailable to Fac Founders (1/8/2012 15:06:39)

Epic Duel Should give a achievement (Achievement:Stay With One) to players who played fairly with honest and everything and who never switched faction to faction like Traitor.


And Who cheated and got both legion and exile achievement, they should receive a achievement worth 100 ratings (Achievement: Traitor Never Trust)




Xx. Christian .xX -> RE: Achievements Unavailable to Fac Founders (1/8/2012 15:16:38)

hmm i was a founder of a faction that contains 1 member and the member was my little brother, it was an exile faction, when i got the exile cheevo i deleted the faction and we both join another faction but a legion one, hmm so am i going to get the turncoat -2000 ratings for leaving/deleting my faction btw i was the founder




Buffy A. Summers -> RE: Achievements Unavailable to Fac Founders (1/8/2012 15:33:13)

@ See?

This Is A Perfect Example Above Of How This Alignment Achievement Thing Was Handled Poorly.

Again, I Don't Agree With Doing It, But This Sort Of Option Should Have Never Been Available.

Encouraging Factions To Be Disbanded And Players To Leave/Join For Greed Was Really The Opposite Effect Of What The War Was Supposed To Create.

It's A Shame That Factions May Be Destroyed And Long Time Players May Faction Jump Becuase Of It.

BUT... Why Punish The Players For Simply Doing What They Could Do Get Both Achievements? Alot Of Players Really Like Achievements And Rating Points. lol

It Should Have Not Been An Option Is All.

If Anyone Should Get A Tratior Achievement, It's Each And Every "Staff' Player For Not Foreseeing This Situation Being A Problem Beforehand.

Players Who Rightly Or Wrongly Simply Played The Game As They Were Allowed Should Not Get A "Negative" Achievement.

The Blame Goes To The Staff On This One, Not The Playing Community.




One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Achievements Unavailable to Fac Founders (1/8/2012 15:46:33)

I have to wonder if the points reset when you switch sides because if they do then the work you did for the other side all has to be redone which more or less cancels out the worth of switching sides




Lord Machaar -> RE: Achievements Unavailable to Fac Founders (1/8/2012 16:04:49)

Well why you didn't think about that earlier before make the update ... I've heard that wanna of my friends got banned for doing that/ punishing the players for your mistakes is something really bad but i don't blame you guys because you didn't have time to think about those problems but anyways i wanna mention about the 1.000.000.000 War points achievement isn't that a lot... At least make the achievement worth more then 5K / And the new balances was quite so much cool...Now CH is able to win Juggernauts like the TLM ^_^/ I'm working on some builds of juggernauts with CH.




Cinderella -> RE: Achievements Unavailable to Fac Founders (1/8/2012 16:17:11)

Buffy, I already took responsibility for it. There's not much I can do to fix it until I can get in touch with Titan besides wring my hands.

Lord Machaar- did you not read my posts? I wouldn't ban you for switching sides. Just take away one achievement.




xxmirxx -> RE: Achievements Unavailable to Fac Founders (1/8/2012 16:45:18)

Lord Machaar I really doubt your friend got ban over switching side your friend lieing to you. buffy I wouldn't be talking about abuse system your one does it too. but I doubt you will disban faction over achievement but know you will get your alts to join your exile faction and legion faction.




Chosen 0ne -> RE: Achievements Unavailable to Fac Founders (1/8/2012 16:48:42)

What if u get one achievment, get kicked from that faction, then join another faction, and get the other achievment?




rej -> RE: Achievements Unavailable to Fac Founders (1/8/2012 16:50:35)

^ All i can say about that is: Don't.




Chosen 0ne -> RE: Achievements Unavailable to Fac Founders (1/8/2012 16:51:16)

^Lol... Nice XD




xxmirxx -> RE: Achievements Unavailable to Fac Founders (1/8/2012 16:51:55)

unfortunately doesn't really matter because I still think there should be one achievement not 2 because people could use your excuse Chosen 0ne just to get in another faction.




Chosen 0ne -> RE: Achievements Unavailable to Fac Founders (1/8/2012 16:57:28)

It seems pretty innocent though, lol.




One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Achievements Unavailable to Fac Founders (1/8/2012 17:07:59)

@Chosen just dont earn the other Cheevo and do all the other missions problem solved




xxmirxx -> RE: Achievements Unavailable to Fac Founders (1/8/2012 17:15:06)

Why OWA if he got kick out it wouldn't make sence your basically he has to join he might not like.




Chosen 0ne -> RE: Achievements Unavailable to Fac Founders (1/8/2012 17:21:33)

What if the faction disbanded, would the scenerio change then?




rej -> RE: Achievements Unavailable to Fac Founders (1/8/2012 17:22:47)

^ Just stick to only getting one, dude. There's no reason to get both besides petty greed.




Lord Machaar -> RE: Achievements Unavailable to Fac Founders (1/8/2012 17:32:38)

Cinderella- and The missions/ Can you take them also from my character page and rewards also?
By the way i didn't do the both legion/exile missions just a PS




xxmirxx -> RE: Achievements Unavailable to Fac Founders (1/8/2012 17:38:33)

rej come on if he gets kick out or disban faction that means hes free to chose a side. You do know theres two different achievement so why pass down opportunity like that I know I wouldn't.




One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Achievements Unavailable to Fac Founders (1/8/2012 17:40:36)

Mir it looks kinda weird when you have a cheevo for killing both sides of the war I mean what are you gonna do carve out your own side in the war on Delta V




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