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rej -> RE: should TLM be nerfed? (2/22/2012 18:31:13)

Of course not. Tactical Mercenary is right where it needs to be. Cyber Hunter, however, is now the overcharged class.

Typical that a person using the Cyber Hunter symbol would make this suggestion.



Oba -> RE: should TLM be nerfed? (2/22/2012 18:38:34)

^and I assume you are a TLM? As I play as a BM now I can say that TLM need a nerf, without taking anyone's side...



streetnaruto -> RE: should TLM be nerfed? (2/22/2012 18:43:55)

they just need to lower the regen from static charge by 15 or 20 and walla the class is same as tlm only targeting resistance.Beacuse the most used build by tlm are max smoke max mineral max hunger and (in some cases heal) .thats exactly the opposite of ch`s max mulfunc max plasma max stat charge (and again heal) the difference is that they target Opposite defenses



Hun Kingq -> RE: should TLM be nerfed? (2/22/2012 18:50:56)

Only reason one class or another seems over powered is the low defense or resistance of the opposing player. A Strength Blood Mage is one of the easiest to take down especially if they are smoked or malfunction. Duse to the Blood mage able to have good defense or resistance they have to have high health mid to high strength, very high tech to get the true benefit of the Plasma Cannon or Plasma Rain which due to players having high resistance and energy armor the blood mage would have to have tech where it is at least 44 resistance but with so much requirements on their skills and weapons they are limited to how high they could go.

I seen alot of players with low or no debuff skill, that increases damage, if you malfunction or smoke someone from the beginning you will be amazed how much more damage you can get. So if you are a player with malfunction then have moderate strength have energy primary and an energy sidearm. The opposite for someone that has smoke.



Stabilis -> RE: should TLM be nerfed? (2/22/2012 19:00:21)

Take note of this players:

When you encounter another class in battle and get owned, you cannot take that as broken gameplay.

However, if you are a class which is dominating every other class then you may say that your class is broken.

Because... in your perspective, how do you know that this player is winning all of their battles? You need to be the first-hand witness to the class' abilities.

As a CH I generally do very well in every battle but have the most problems in facing STR tlm, bm, and on rare occasion STR ch.



charlie2124 -> RE: should TLM be nerfed? (2/22/2012 19:14:53)

for those of you who keep saying CH is overpowered,it is. but just like @Street said,TLM is basically the physical version of CH.



goldslayer1 -> RE: should TLM be nerfed? (2/22/2012 19:18:23)

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^and I assume you are a TLM? As I play as a BM now I can say that TLM need a nerf, without taking anyone's side...

and ur probably a str bloodmage with like 60-70 dex, and spamming a boatload of str. but is very screwed when smoked.



DeathGuard -> RE: should TLM be nerfed? (2/22/2012 19:22:58)

TLM needs some final adjustments, Chs needs some good nerf to block their ability to tank and regain energy at the same time, and other classes need a buff and skills adjustments and revamped new skill trees. Stop this, I'm getting tired of forumers calling themselves classes and saying they're Oped -.-
Don't you think it is pathetic? Dam!



charlie2124 -> RE: should TLM be nerfed? (2/22/2012 19:39:35)

@Death im going to tell you what i told @gold,stay on topic or don't post anything.i mean,do you go on everyone's post and tell them it's pathetic?



goldslayer1 -> RE: should TLM be nerfed? (2/22/2012 19:43:36)

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@gold,stay on topic or don't post anything.i mean,do you go on everyone's post and tell them it's pathetic?

i never told anyone its pathetic.

but str bm has very low dex, and of course a str tlm would be able to 3-4 turn a bloodmage.
with like 60-70 dex, and a smokescreen removing around 30 dex, ur defense isn't gonna be very good.
but thats no reason to say tlm is OP because of str bloodmage's lack of defense (which is the player's choice). unless ur using physical armor, which then ur still screwed against cyber hunters.



DeathGuard -> RE: should TLM be nerfed? (2/22/2012 19:44:42)

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TLM needs some final adjustments, Chs needs some good nerf to block their ability to tank and regain energy at the same time, and other classes need a buff and skills adjustments and revamped new skill trees.
On topic

quote:

Stop this, I'm getting tired of forumers calling themselves classes and saying they're Oped -.-
Don't you think it is pathetic? Dam!
I didn't say the ones who posted where pathetic but the action itself.

@Gold: He was talking to me about the supposedly ''pathetic" insult



Stabilis -> RE: should TLM be nerfed? (2/22/2012 20:06:54)

I don't have the right gear for this but I think this would be the optimal BM build:

125 Health, STR # = SUP #... maximum STR + SUP, energy Primary, physical sidearm and physical auxiliary. Skills besides blood lust and deadly aim are optional.



charlie2124 -> RE: should TLM be nerfed? (2/22/2012 20:10:33)

@death,i meant the part about the CH stuff.im getting sick and tired of people saying stuff about cyber hunter,this post was to get peoples opinion on nerfing TLM,nothing more nothing less.if u think that CH needs a nerf then post a thread yourself.



Stabilis -> RE: should TLM be nerfed? (2/22/2012 21:34:12)

^ May I intrude on your conversation?

Although you had directed the theme of this thread towards TacM, arguing that a class is OP will degenerate into minor wars about balance, something that unfortunately goes into the official balance thread.



streetnaruto -> RE: should TLM be nerfed? (2/22/2012 21:50:08)

o also while tlm complain that ch gains energy from hittin is stupid when a smoking tlm hits you and does 44 dam and gets a good 25 ish health back does that seem op? thats almost a booster ch does the same but with eng



streetnaruto -> RE: should TLM be nerfed? (2/22/2012 21:53:02)

can you imagine A str stat charge bm ? that would be the meanig of op



rej -> RE: should TLM be nerfed? (2/22/2012 22:23:27)

*Imagines Lectrix coming here and saying "This thread has dissolved into flaming. Locking up. Refer here for balance discussion. *link*" *

On topic: No nerf!



AQWPlayer -> RE: should TLM be nerfed? (2/22/2012 22:54:17)

@rej
Yes nerf! Nerf TLM to the ground so I can pwn you :D
Str TLMs are just too OP when they have tons of str and low dex but don't get blocked .-.



nico0las -> RE: should TLM be nerfed? (2/24/2012 18:25:08)

The poor class has suffered quite enough. I rarely have difficulty beating TLMs (and those are the 130+ tech ones, as I AM a tech mage and can barely do damage).
TLM is well balanced as it is. Fact is it's easier to get good builds out of it than other classes because the builds come "standard". A TLM can pull a 85% Strength build in thirty seconds, whilst it takes weeks of editing and changing a build to get a good TM build. However, that TM build will come out much more successful than the TLM one. For example, I had an average of 84% with a strength TLM a while ago. I'm holding onto 94% with a TM dex build.



midnight assassin -> RE: should TLM be nerfed? (2/25/2012 11:20:44)

TLM is already fine except the str ones. I can just cut some of them like a hot knife through butter as an bh.

BTW I'm getting tired on seeing threads like this.



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