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Elf Priest JZaanu -> RE: =ED= Feb 22nd Design Notes - More Heartbreaks and broken items! (2/23/2012 1:28:18)

This is a wonderful gesture in a gift of a non-competitive fun item from the developers. Hopefully in due time, all the players of the different stages of Epic Duel will have something as an appreciation for being part of and supporting a past stage in development of this game.

It will be interesting when all 4 servers will go Full. I think it will be very soon.

Thank You Epic Duel Staff.




Goony -> RE: =ED= Feb 22nd Design Notes - More Heartbreaks and broken items! (2/23/2012 2:24:22)

Hmm, will the heartbreaker missions go rare or are they a permanent part of the storyline?

Founder bike ehh...




Shadow Jester -> RE: =ED= Feb 22nd Design Notes - More Heartbreaks and broken items! (2/23/2012 2:25:46)

Ooh Goony and JZaanu and Angels ;D
/waves from far distance then turns around frowning that I miss them

Ah founder. Nice




wario the great -> RE: =ED= Feb 22nd Design Notes - More Heartbreaks and broken items! (2/23/2012 3:18:37)

woot. another bike to my collection




drinde -> RE: =ED= Feb 22nd Design Notes - More Heartbreaks and broken items! (2/23/2012 3:27:05)

Yay, Broken items. :3

The Founders get to get a new bike, which is good too.




King FrostLich -> RE: =ED= Feb 22nd Design Notes - More Heartbreaks and broken items! (2/23/2012 3:51:27)

What about the low levels trying to defeat Administrator 11? They'll never get the heartcracker achievement.




rene196 -> RE: =ED= Feb 22nd Design Notes - More Heartbreaks and broken items! (2/23/2012 4:54:37)

@King Frostlich

Indeed,im strugling with this. [:(]
It`s near impossible for low lvls.[:(]




SouL Prisoner -> RE: =ED= Feb 22nd Design Notes - More Heartbreaks and broken items! (2/23/2012 5:53:08)

ya , nice . everything for "founders" as if after beta the game is running for free ,other player who upgraded , were not needed or some way useless???
its noy lyk once players supported the game , when it needed , so they keep gifting them !! (once they did , now move on )

its only matter of time , some people came to know about the game b4 and some later , "but whoever upgraded has some or other way HELPED the game , its not lyk AE doesn't need any more "cash to run the game , then y aren't the other varium players not GIFTED???????? ( not asking for free varium or bike , they can at least give a "achievement" that wot cost them , would it?)




8x -> RE: =ED= Feb 22nd Design Notes - More Heartbreaks and broken items! (2/23/2012 6:32:37)

Devs could also make Beta Bike and put it in shop for all beta testers. (And sell it for 10k credits, so it's not free)




Calogero -> RE: =ED= Feb 22nd Design Notes - More Heartbreaks and broken items! (2/23/2012 7:07:06)

@Frostlich

that's because missions have level requirements.
If I remember correctly, the mission to beat Admin 11 for the Heart bomb or whatever is lvl 25.

also if founders complain now that they deserve more then you are greedy.
You allready recieved more than you deserve anyway




Oba -> RE: =ED= Feb 22nd Design Notes - More Heartbreaks and broken items! (2/23/2012 7:37:18)

If you guys look at... AQW for an example. Does Founders get a new pet each year. On HS, Founders recently got a new sword. Founder perks is a part of AE now, it seems, and I like it [:)]
If you guys not can let us get a bike, which have no effect in-battle, then it is you who are greedy and selfish. Alpha testers for that matter, should get something extra EXTRA, and same with Elites. But as for Beta testers... meh..




Fay Beeee -> RE: =ED= Feb 22nd Design Notes - More Heartbreaks and broken items! (2/23/2012 7:45:28)

Well I think it is very nice of them.

I wasn't expecting anything.
I didn't ask for anything.
It DOES NOT affect game play.

There are not as many of us to get it as you might think. Just a very nice gesture.

So once again. Thank you very much.




Santa ClawZz -> RE: =ED= Feb 22nd Design Notes - More Heartbreaks and broken items! (2/23/2012 8:20:09)

This Founder Bike that you speaketh of...Ultra Rare? If yes, why thank you Mr. "Whoever's idea it was".




Minus123 -> RE: =ED= Feb 22nd Design Notes - More Heartbreaks and broken items! (2/23/2012 8:29:34)

I'm a from beta and I don't mind founders getting something, as long as it doesn't give any advantage in battle.

@soulprisner

I disagree, founders were the first to support the game and the staff just wanted to show their appreciation, we were just lucky enough that it wasn't an op armor or something.






Mr. Black OP -> RE: =ED= Feb 22nd Design Notes - More Heartbreaks and broken items! (2/23/2012 9:39:09)

So when will it come out?




Digital X -> RE: =ED= Feb 22nd Design Notes - More Heartbreaks and broken items! (2/23/2012 9:48:39)

@Z man 2, the team generally aims for Friday around 6pm EST, however delays may occur so it might be a little later depending how they get on :)




Mr. Black OP -> RE: =ED= Feb 22nd Design Notes - More Heartbreaks and broken items! (2/23/2012 9:50:40)

Oh ok thank you.
Looking forward to the bike.




CarePenguin -> RE: =ED= Feb 22nd Design Notes - More Heartbreaks and broken items! (2/23/2012 10:17:19)

Congrats to all Founders and Elite players!

I'll second Fay Beeee on this, it is a very nice gesture of the developers, and it shows they care.

BTW, I am not a Founder or Elite player, and I came to this game late.




Ranloth -> RE: =ED= Feb 22nd Design Notes - More Heartbreaks and broken items! (2/23/2012 11:42:39)

*sigh*

It starts to surprise me how I can see some negativity on Forum and Twitter about Founder Bike.. playarn explained it in best way *which I forgot to add in yesterday's post* and if you wanna know, it isn't in all AE games but AQW, HS and ED only. There might be special rewards in other games like 10yrs anniversary (AQ this year), but Founders and Elite were the first ones to actually support the game and help it maintain financial stability which is very important if the business is starting up - it's either survive or die.
Yeah surely Beta onwards might've supported the game but if the game maintains financial stability early in the stages of the game, players do get rewarded for it (Elite and Founder in this case). If more people started to pay, it's helped ED as they might have more funds to recruit someone *if not volunteers even* new to the Team over the time. Bike is a bike, it doesn't do anything but look cool while outside of the battle - is it really that bad gift? It's free, doesn't affect battles, affects very small minority of players - surely there's nothing bad in this? Yes my main character is a Founder but rest was made in Gamma and Delta + my main bought recently a Bike and now free one so I simply lost 15K (if I sell it).
Angels said that we got something we don't even want - surely it's a gift, so hard to appreciate a free gift? It's not like in real life, you'd say no because you don't like it. It's like no one is forcing anyone to buy it.

Also what AQW does *I seen few mentions here* is not being "Founder" every year in October but it's Upholders. It's commemorating AQW's birthday.
If you wonder, on 28/2 or 1/3 is ED's anniversary so it's like birthday but AQW is really different; dress-up game + story vs. PvP.. and that's why minority of players get the gift for supporting ED at that time when they needed money. Also if Founder gifts might be done every year, it says nowhere it must be a big gift. Yes Bike this year, but next year it might be perhaps a house item? Even though not many players have houses, and so on.




Stabilis -> RE: =ED= Feb 22nd Design Notes - More Heartbreaks and broken items! (2/23/2012 11:51:51)

I'm just going to say this for the founder debate:

I myself and probably all of the staff appreciates every single player equally. Everyone who had came onto ED increased it's popularity in their own way. So thank you.

That is all.




Lycus -> RE: =ED= Feb 22nd Design Notes - More Heartbreaks and broken items! (2/23/2012 13:15:11)

I think people have covered this well already, but I'd like to add this from the position as a member of Staff. We appreciate each and every player, whether you have paid, or not, whether you play every minute of every day, or don't, and whether you have the highest amount of wins out of everyone, or don't, we care about every single player equally. Without Founders and Elites though, this game wouldn't still be here for anyone to play, so in a way, everyone complaining because they aren't a founder, and 'it isn't fair', you should be thanking them in a way, because without them, you would have never been able to play this game.
The bike will not help in battle, it is aesthetic only and of course, as normal, makes you travel around faster. This reward is to show our appreciation to those who supported us when this game could have gone anywhere, and they've stuck with us all this time, up to now, and we feel that deserves some recognition.
We introduce content that is available for all players every release, and I think it's fair for part of this one release to be dedicated to those who have been our longest supporters, and for them to get a token of appreciation to show we still are very grateful for what them.




Remorse -> RE: =ED= Feb 22nd Design Notes - More Heartbreaks and broken items! (2/23/2012 13:31:09)

^
That is all well and good, And I am glad they are getting rewarded.

But if you consider the exclusion here.


So the founder and elites have supported the game way back then to keep it running and I am truly grateful that does deserve a rewarded,

And they got many, and it seems them getting rewards has no end?

While the players who are supporting the game now, are excluded.

The game didnt colapse and thats great!

But what if everyone suddenly stopped supporting it now? Wouldnt that means the game will colapse??
Surely there isnt that much diffrence.

Im not saying founder and elites shouldnt get anything I think they are indeed worthy of a reward But at the cost of slapping the supporters now in the face?

Why not reward everyone who has supportred the game WHICH include founders and elites , founders and elites have already got MANY distictions to prove that they should get more rewards due to there date of purchase and they have already recicved many and I think its passed that point and up to the point where if you gonna reward players for support you reward everyone.

Many founders/elites no longer support the game and many new players have supported the game both in higher amounts and time then many of the founder/elites and they somehow deserve nothing?

I think the exclusion is enough.
And Im sorry if this seems slefish but this is how I feel.





Stabilis -> RE: =ED= Feb 22nd Design Notes - More Heartbreaks and broken items! (2/23/2012 13:35:21)

What if...

Inventory was made to be unlimited?!

Will you be ecstatic? If we refunded inventory purchases 100%, and gave everyone extra inventory (you can buy more gear).

The biggest present in all of ED!!!

And yes I am on pills as I text this.




IsaiahtheMage -> RE: =ED= Feb 22nd Design Notes - More Heartbreaks and broken items! (2/23/2012 13:39:48)

People they are getting a free bike. That's all because they paid for the game first. If it wasn't for them the game would not exist sure you guys who support the game today help a lot too but the very first players deserve something special. Due to the fact you couldn't continue to support a game today if it didn't exist thanks to elites and founders! It's just a free tricked-out bike! That's all. Gee get over it.




Remorse -> RE: =ED= Feb 22nd Design Notes - More Heartbreaks and broken items! (2/23/2012 13:40:11)

@deppresed
Aparantly (From what I recall being said before, not trying to prove I know stuff about coding)

Inventory takes up space in the servers, so each invenotry slot people have is taking up space in the servers. Hence why It cannot be unlimited and why there is a cost of getting more.

@Isia

I dont see why everyone has to play the "if they didnt support then there would be no game now" card because if everyone suddenly stopped supporting now it would be in the same mess.
And Im not complaining I just think everyone who has supported deserves something because ultimately the founder and elites have done nothing diffrent to everyone else who has supported except they did it earlier AND have been rewarded MANY times already for that.
Is it ever gonna have a turning point where all supporters are thanked?
Or in 10 years time founder and elites gonna have stock piled $1000 worth of varium gear and rewards....




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