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Glais -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 18:36:29)

If you want OP, Superboy Prime. No respect for balance there. First character I've known to be immune to reality warping without being a god. He also apparently punched a universe apart in his rage.

Inb4FALCONEPAAAAWNCH



Antithesis -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 18:38:16)

FALC-


<_< Really, inb4'd? Really?





Doctor Manhattan is still the most OP character in existence my good sir. He just doesn't die.

Captain Atom is pretty bad too...



Arachnid -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 18:40:22)

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And the whole time he was still useless against kryptonite.

To be more specific, it was one kind of kryptonite.

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Any post you've made in regards to me has been rude so I really don't feel any incentive to not make accurate assumptions.
"What goes around comes around"

This is hilarious. I SPECIFICALLY SAID I didn't want to ignore the OP people, and you say that I wasn't sorry to ignore you.
LOLWUT?!

To be completely honest, you started to be rude first. That whole post ended with me saying I didn't want to ignore everyone.
So, to agree with your previous statement,
"What goes around, comes around."

You be rude to me=I be rude to you.

I love algebra.


~Lady Zafara



Glais -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 18:41:57)

There's still (apparently) people who can outdo Manhattan. I don't know HOW but it can happen. Plus he really can't do anything to SBP. Sbp is rage inducedly haxxing.

Yeah Captain Atom is just..ugh.

Course, the worst of all would be Ungaro from Jojo's Bizarre Adventure. Reason being he can bring fictional characters to life. WITH ALL OF THEIR POWERS. And the DCU and Marvel exist in JJBA.



Antithesis -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 18:45:27)

Oh, so he had even less weaknesses.
I repeat, Saturn has the entire mineral of Rhodium and nucleic energy! And as listed in my "cons" he is so mentally ruined that he might just kill himself for no reason in battle.


Saturn has more weaknesses than Superman.
Superman has a greater variety of incredible powers than Saturn.
You contradict yourself with your posts and only further beef up Superman.
Therefore Saturn just loses more and more "godmoddedness"

Your sarcasm is blatant and obvious in regards to not wanting to ignore people (excluding David I guess?) Because you do it anyway
I have no reason to show kindness to you.


I love logic.

/discussion



I await Shadowlord's unbiased opinion. If he claims it is OP, so be it. I will look into Saturn's character.
Until then I see no further reason to take part in a flamewar, and everyone will side with Zafara anyway.




Glais -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 18:47:58)

Just curious, but what are Saturn's powers again? *ignorance* I tend to look around for the most OP characters in fiction a lot, I could be suitable judge in the meantime, until SL is done.

Plus, as I don't know anyone here, I can't be biased towards or against anyone. (except maybe Drakk and Blitz, as I have read some of their work. That doesn't mean I will bias for or against either though).



Arachnid -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 18:49:23)

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Your sarcasm is blatant and obvious in regards to not wanting to ignore people (excluding David I guess?) Because you do it anyway
I have no reason to show kindness to you.

Let's start with IT WASN'T SARCASM.
Yes, good start. Let's continue.
I DO IT ANYWAY?! WHEN THE HELL HAVE I IGNORED ANYBODY?!
Now, continuing.
No reason to show kindness to me...Ummm... neither do I? But I do. Did. No longer.
You assume things quickly without evidence.
So, nice try.


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and nucleic energy

OHMYGAWD so does everyone else -.-


In conclusion: You are a jerk who thinks I was being mean, without ANY evidence WHATSOEVER, with a character that I would classify as OP.

Thank you, come again.



~Lady Zafara



Antithesis -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 18:52:51)

@Glais:
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Ability to 'harvest', 'implant', and take control over the "energy" (not actual energy, its the mental and physical fatigue) in a living being. Can also create living forms, though this takes quite a bit of effort on his part. Extremely intellectual if not bordering omniscience and has mental abilities that rival many, including; creating mental shields, mental weaponry, wreaking havoc on another's mental state, mind control, control of dead bodies via manipulation, and the ability to mentally move objects as well as 'teleport' himself or others (with effort), and shapeshifting. Is completely unpredictable for many reasons, and the mere presence of Saturn drives most super-humans with mental resistance gradually insane. Humans or superhumans without mental protection of some kind can barely look at him before losing themselves completely.

^^Forgot in there the whole "swimming through reality" thing. He doesn't control reality. He swims through it.



@Zafara: It was sarcasm. I know this because, in actuality, you always ignore me lol. Incessantly even. In fact, back when I wrote, you didn't even acknowledge my existence.
All you do is give me grief ;D So I'm done talking with you now.
~Cheers



Arachnid -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 18:55:38)

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I know this because, in actuality, you always ignore me lol. Incessantly even. In fact, back when I wrote, you didn't even acknowledge my existence.

My favorite part is your lack of evidence.
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It was sarcasm.

Oddly enough, it's my favorite part here, too! =D
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All you do is give me grief

Only since you started to give me grief for a comment you THOUGHT was rude :)
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So I'm done talking with you now.

It's a christmas miracle! =D

~Lady Zafara



Antithesis -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 18:57:49)

The lack of evidence is evidence, actually. How can I get evidence of you not saying anything?
Check the earlier threads if you wish to understand what I'm talking about.

Anyways yeah, no use in replying to me now because you're blocked for the time being, for being the ignorant brat you are. :)
Kthxbai



Glais -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 18:58:46)

Only thing I notice as insanely broken is the fact that without mental protection you will simply go insane.
Course, this also depends on your definition and requirements of mental protection. Shapeshifting could be, depending on its limits. Rest seems mainly energy manipulation.


Err...uh...you know arguments and such really won't be getting anyone anywhere...



Arachnid -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 19:01:07)

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The lack of evidence is evidence, actually. How can I get evidence of you not saying anything?

So you're saying that I didn't respond to you. Oddly enough, I do that to EVERYONE when I log off.
Wierd, I know. I guess I ignore everyone then. I'm such a horrible person.
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you're blocked for the time being

Oooh, mature. Nice move there.
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being the ignorant brat you are

I could actually send that to a forum AK and get you a warning right then and there. Ignorant of what, might I ask?
Not knowing my own comment was sarcastic?
Oh, yes. That's very difficult.
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Kthxbai

Coolstorybro, tell it again.

~Lady Zafara


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Err...uh...you know arguments and such really won't be getting anyone anywhere...

He wanted to argue, so I argued back. Really, if he didn't take my comment the wrong way, none of this would've happened. But I'm sure he blames me.



Antithesis -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 19:02:04)

His shapeshifting is limited to turning into big ol' bugs or other scary things. His size doesn't increase or shrink, basically.


Thank you for understanding what the powers mean. Mental protection varies. In my story, my character Fairgates has "mental scar tissue" so to speak because of the horrible wars he has fought and the rigorous training he has taken part in.
With just that, he can stay sane in Saturn's presence for a few hours. That's not even with technological correction...


Don't worry about it Glais, I'm taking the high road on this one.



Glais -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 19:05:52)

@Arachnid:Not what I meant. Moreso I mean judging by many a conversation in other areas of the forums, things like this simply end in warnings and all. Nothing good, you know?

That was basically what I was wondering, whether size was affected.

So basically mental shield is one's own strength of mind pretty much. Like a battle of wills.



Antithesis -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 19:08:53)

Yeah, essentially I'd say that this is a pretty accurate description.
Technology is always of help but if one has a strong mind (abnormally strong) then they should be okay for a bit.

And you're probably right about warnings, Glais, but in a situation regarding ignorance of this kind I don't really worry about it. If the AKs feel something should be done...

I don't take what they say with a grain of salt, to say the least.



Arachnid -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 19:09:24)

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I'm taking the high road on this one.

I lol'd.


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Not what I meant. Moreso I mean judging by many a conversation in other areas of the forums, things like this simply end in warnings and all. Nothing good, you know?

I agree. I remember that party me and Anti had with Jay. It was a blast, and it's what started our friendship. I have no idea what he's talking about when he says I ignored him. To be honest, I'm not even sure I ever did. The only place I remember him at was on the Q&A forum, and people usually don't respond to answers in there.
It's sad that a friendship ends because he misinterpreted one comment, but he was immature about it. I never wanted it to end up like this, it just did. I'd say sorry if I could, but kinda blocked me, and if he's going to do that, than there's no point in apologizing at all.



~Lady Zafara



delta blitz -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 19:09:44)

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Davy...well...I remember him saying that he has a LOT of power, he just CHOOSES not to use it.
Which means if some crazy powerful threat came up, he could beat it easily.

^ this applied to my character when he was a zero energy being....please read my character's pros and cons if your idea of my character is based off his old not insane self then you have the wrong character in mind. What I wrote for the pros and cons are based off that same zero energy being who went insane and lost his zero energy powers. Now he is X prime and has white chaos powers as I have stated 3....no 5 times already.



Clown the Jester -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 19:09:49)

JEEZ YOU GUYS!


Calm down...I don't know what you two are arguing about.


Disapointing...both of you.


Jeez...lets end this debate of OPs or nots...it always ends in fights and shouldn't even exist.


It really...really doesn't matter how powerful someone is. Its how people use the talents they have that decides how much of a threat they are.

Consider Comedy and Tragedy.


I become the most powerful entity in the multi-verse...so powerful that not even all the smashers combined could take me on. I was unstoppable...unchallengable...a storm among fleas.


Then...Gray Silhouette...a human with no powers is able to beat me by using my overconfidence against me and playing me like a sap.


There was a reason for having it end like that. Remember...the mosquito can kill a fully grown man if it possess malaria.

In the long run...its true...brains trumps brawns every time. Reguardless the odds. So you guys don't need to make everyone equal in might...you just need to find a way to beat one another using what you got...cause if a man can school a god...surely you all can take on one another.



Glais -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 19:13:18)

Well then, I suppose the best course of action would be to shift back to the original topic.

So Arachnid, what's your character?

@Antithesis:Ah I see.

@Clown, Dleta:Again, I responded to the OP thing a few times. Basically I am not trying to change your characters, sorry if I came off that way. I just don't personally see fun in super OP characters. I can't really see how to collab with something like that, unless I was like the Dealer who pretty much overrides that sort of thing.



Arachnid -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 19:13:22)

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Calm down...I don't know what you two are arguing about.

Read the last page and this page.
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lets end this debate of OPs or nots...it always ends in fights and shouldn't even exist.

It really shouldn't, but it always comes up periodically. It'll probably be up in 1/2 a year or so.

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this applied to my character when he was a zero energy being....please read my character's pros and cons if your idea of my character is based off his old not insane self then you have the wrong character in mind. What I wrote for the pros and cons are based off that same zero energy being who went insane and lost his zero energy powers. Now he is X prime and has white chaos powers as I have stated 3....no 5 times already.

Sigh...sorry then. I was referring to your old character...



Well, my evening pretty much sucks now...


~Lady Zafara



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So Arachnid, what's your character?

I don't understand the question...



Antithesis -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 19:13:32)

@The Clown;

Done, done, and done :P That's why I decided it was best to end the discussion because it became nothing but negative. Life on the forum can proceed as normal.

You're right. I concede to the fact that powers can't really be judged in a way we can list.



Question Mark? -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 19:14:00)

Superman also has Super-Weaving and Super-Ventriloquism
Therefore, Superman>Saturn.
End of Story.



Antithesis -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 19:15:08)

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Superman also has Super-Weaving and Super-Ventriloquism
Therefore, Superman>Saturn.
End of Story.

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Superman also has Super-Weaving and Super-Ventriloquism
Therefore, Superman>Saturn.
End of Story.

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Superman also has Super-Weaving and Super-Ventriloquism
Therefore, Superman>Saturn.
End of Story.



This. Thank you.



Arachnid -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 19:16:35)

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Super-Weaving and Super-Ventriloquism

Super...weaving?!
You have GOT to be kidding me.
That's not even a power...It's like..."I'm Superman, and I can sew a pair of socks in 30 seconds TOPS"
O.o


~Lady Zafara



Glais -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 19:16:49)

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I become the most powerful entity in the multi-verse...so powerful that not even all the smashers combined could take me on. I was unstoppable...unchallengable...a storm among fleas.

Just saying, one can never really be the strongest in the Multi/Omniverse. Since there's so many stories that WILL eventually one up you. Again not trying to change Clown, I actually like the idea behind him, I am just saying what you say, does not necessarily apply to someone else's story.

And ha, overconfidence is always such a weakness xD

@Arachnid:Sorry, WHO would be more accurate. New to the HS side of things so I have no idea who any of these guys are.



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