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Oba -> RE: Storyline Progression...What happened? (2/27/2012 15:45:50)

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and from that u just suggested legion knew they had advantage over exile.


I did not suggest Legion to have a advantage? But we got clear proof that we do pwn you Exiles. And for that matter, there was alot more Exile factions then Legion factions not long ago, and I guess it still was at the beginning of the war.



Smackie El Frog -> RE: Storyline Progression...What happened? (2/27/2012 15:48:41)

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perhaps maybe legion should have a Civil battle, and make a mutany against alydiah. and its legion vs legion.


Lol why does legion need to have a Civil War? We are all pretty much on the same page. Down with Exiles. Ahmen!



goldslayer1 -> RE: Storyline Progression...What happened? (2/27/2012 15:50:23)

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I did not suggest Legion to have a advantage? But we got clear proof that we do pwn you Exiles. And for that matter, there was alot more Exile factions then Legion factions not long ago, and I guess it still was at the beginning of the war.

WHAT? LOLOLOLol
more exile factions?
the only factions that were active that were actually exile, were Control Alt Death, The Legion Kings, and Dixie Chicks, girls of buffy. thats as far as i can recall for exile.

exile had evil council, toy soldiers, xxsuperiorsxx, super latinos, legion of buffy, and a ton more who were into the war.

and i never said u suggested. i said u basically said that by saying *looks for small place*
meaning legion knew exile was smaller. (according to ur comparison)


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Lol why does legion need to have a Civil War? We are all pretty much on the same page.

yet, its u guys who have exile exile spies on ur ranks.

u dont know how the sstory will play.

maybe the spy u guys had told us all ur advantage, and we actually lost on purpose, only to come back harder.



Oba -> RE: Storyline Progression...What happened? (2/27/2012 15:52:07)

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exile had evil council, toy soldiers, xxsuperiorsxx, super latinos, legion of buffy, and a ton more who were into the war.


Legion* I guess you mean? And there you had another proof why we won. We had more factions involved in the war, atleast in you point of view apperently [:)]



Smackie El Frog -> RE: Storyline Progression...What happened? (2/27/2012 15:52:18)

@Gold

I didn't know you had a list of every exile faction that participated in the war. [8|]



Wraith -> RE: Storyline Progression...What happened? (2/27/2012 15:53:18)

@Gold: Nublets and KoTR.

In other words, ManThong and three mods [:'(]

And they had Jari.

@Vegi: Stop troling people -.-' it's not funny in game either.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Storyline Progression...What happened? (2/27/2012 15:57:40)

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Legion* I guess you mean? And there you had another proof why we won. We had more factions involved in the war, atleast in you point of view apperently


yeah, meaning legion only won because we were much smaller.
u guys had the advantage in population and money.

@wraith
yeah i forgot to mention kotr.

they just had too many advantages for exile to win.

they had more active factions on their side.
and alot of players with money. ontop of that they had mods.

discount the war points done by super war bombs on exile and legion. and exile has more points.


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I didn't know you had a list of every exile faction that participated in the war.

i dont, but i know the most active ones.



Lord Loss... -> RE: Storyline Progression...What happened? (2/27/2012 16:00:51)

instead of trying to acuse legion of trying to win too much why dont u look at exile factions and get mad at them for not participating. Exiles also have many powerful factions and rich players that could have saved them and another thing legion of buffy did nothing for the legion side. We won the war and i dont say i see into the future but the fact is dont come up with a fake war/battle just to make money, especially if it wont change who wins in the end



goldslayer1 -> RE: Storyline Progression...What happened? (2/27/2012 16:02:47)

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but the fact is dont come up with a fake war/battle just to make money, especially if it wont change who wins in the end

so according to u, whos winning right now? despite the fact that legion "won" a battle

if u say exile is winning, then legion never really pwned exile.


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instead of trying to acuse legion of trying to win too much why dont u look at exile factions and get mad at them for not participating.

*legion: pew pew SUPER WARBOMB IN THE HOLE X $1000*

i can see why exile would be reluctant to take part in the war after legion players shooting a thousand dollars in super war bombs.



Smackie El Frog -> RE: Storyline Progression...What happened? (2/27/2012 16:10:59)

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if u say exile is winning, then legion never really pwned exile.


Gold, don't try to skew the facts. Legion won. We got frysteland yetis mutating into monsters as we speak. But we were also told this would effect the storyline. I have yet to see it myself in this heart breaker saga, which is what spurred me on to create this thread.



Lord Loss... -> RE: Storyline Progression...What happened? (2/27/2012 16:11:24)

Why dont u quote all of my post instead of the part that benefits just u, My point is the same, Exiles had powerful faction and rich players that could help, for example the wawas, guaps, even buffy who i wont deny tried but could have done more. Dont go flaming legion players just cuz they cared enough to spend money. And not all legion players used 1000$. I myself got war hero on legion side but i havent wasted more than 1k varium, i won by farming and gathering bombs and i can name alot more legion players that did the same.



Wraith -> RE: Storyline Progression...What happened? (2/27/2012 16:15:48)

It was obvious.

Assuming with crit bombs each bomb hit 225.

Legion had a minimum of 50k aa day and normally 100k.

That means every day people spent 223 to 445 bombs. 11k to 22k Varium spent.

Now think about ManThong, Smackie, and Mokta firing bombs every day. 1 mil points is roughly 4.5k bombs. 225k Varium.

Now think about them forcing the others to fore bombs for war hero. I don't stay up till reset playing ed so i guess people have roughly 150k by then.

/facepalm

Now every day there are about 4 people fighting for hero and smackie and the big wallets forcing them up.

/facepalm

In exile we have about 30k and there really isn't much pressure to keep buying. Unless Goony or Buffy come in -.-'





Lord Loss... -> RE: Storyline Progression...What happened? (2/27/2012 16:17:49)

Wraith its not as simple as that, Manthong mokta and smackie have farmed thousands of npcs, now take those points and add the small war bomb points they had. And another thing, mods did not abuse varium in this war so dont try to pin this on them, they might not be perfect but none of them went as far as breaking the rules so obviously



goldslayer1 -> RE: Storyline Progression...What happened? (2/27/2012 16:20:33)

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Gold, don't try to skew the facts. Legion won. We got frysteland yetis mutating into monsters as we speak. But we were also told this would effect the storyline.

and it did effect the storyline. if u dont like it, it doesn't change the fact that legion did affect the storyline.


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Why dont u quote all of my post instead of the part that benefits just u, My point is the same, Exiles had powerful faction and rich players that could help, for example the wawas, guaps, even buffy who i wont deny tried but could have done more. Dont go flaming legion players just cuz they cared enough to spend money.

well first, thats because my reply is going to be for what i quoted. and not the whole thing.

after the wawa got like over 1.1 million war kills and the other one about 700k war kills
i dont think they wanted to spend more. buffy probably could have gotten general if she wanted to. but she got war chief. and so for that shes the only person in the game with that cheevo.

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Wraith its not as simple as that, Manthong mokta and smackie have farmed thousands of npcs, now take those points and add the small war bomb points they had.


96% of the war points smackie had were all from super war bombs. (if i recall correctly) he only had about 1k NPCs.
idk about mokta. but manthong was probably the one who farmed the most out of all the others combined

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And another thing, mods did not abuse varium in this war so dont try to pin this on them, they might not be perfect but none of them went as far as breaking the rules so obviously
if i recall correctly , on release day wiseman shot like 3k in war points. along with some other mods. and alley cat also done about 10k a couple times.

then not only that, they fixed the boiards so mods aren't shown on it. (meaning they could have fired all they wanted but wouldn't appear on boards)



Smackie El Frog -> RE: Storyline Progression...What happened? (2/27/2012 16:24:06)

Oh goldy, Buffys the only one currently with that rusty old cheevo! Unlike the smarter players like me, ManThong and Mokta. We all traded ours up for a shinier one.

You really need to work on your memory because I personally showed this to you in a few threads...[8|]

http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p384/smackieelfrog/currentwarscore.png

And that's not even taken from when I was done farming those npcs! xD



Oba -> RE: Storyline Progression...What happened? (2/27/2012 16:32:07)

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along with some other mods. and alley cat also done about 10k a couple times.


XD

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and it did effect the storyline. if u dont like it, it doesn't change the fact that legion did affect the storyline.


How exactly does it goes in the.. Legion-story if we take mission from EXILE LEADER?



Lord Loss... -> RE: Storyline Progression...What happened? (2/27/2012 16:33:40)

has it ever accured to u that mods didnt use varium for that? and another thing, 10k points? well boohoo what about the other 3 000 000, was that Wiseman too?



goldslayer1 -> RE: Storyline Progression...What happened? (2/27/2012 16:40:49)

@smackie
ok, and u generally did what NPCs?

also if u choose to keep doing NPCs afterwards u got war general. that was ur choice and not needed.

anyway, ill pretend it was 16% (16% to be fairer tho, cause each time i saw u, u mostly farmed lvl 20 npc (lvl 20 NPC had a 12% with a 2 turn support build. but ill add 16 % and pretend u actually did 2k on the lvl 30 npc)

335 bombs X 65 = 21.7k

so 94.4% (down from 96%) of ur bombs were still super war bombs.

24 X 2095
24 as if u did the lvl 30 NPC. 50k

so about only 71k score was actually non paid.

well according to this info, my point is proven.

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has it ever accured to u that mods didnt use varium for that? and another thing, 10k points? well boohoo what about the other 3 000 000
u obviously didn't what i said. the boards were later changed so mods wouldn't appear in it. they could have fired without anyone knowing.



Oba -> RE: Storyline Progression...What happened? (2/27/2012 16:43:13)

May I ask you how much points you got then gold, without paying anything? Highely doubt it was more then 71k.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Storyline Progression...What happened? (2/27/2012 16:45:47)

@playarn

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May I ask you how much points you got then gold, without paying anything? Highely doubt it was more then 71k.

i have Fleet Lieutenant (its 100k+) but i had around 200k (could have gone for 250k cheevo. but after seeing how war was gonna end, and being lazy aswell as busy with other stuff. i decided not to) and all of this without paying a cent. i also got war hero without paying a cent



Oba -> RE: Storyline Progression...What happened? (2/27/2012 16:47:48)

Yes you might had 200k points, and how much of that is through NPC? Have any screen shot of it? I for one, as I said, doubt you got more then 71k through NPC.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Storyline Progression...What happened? (2/27/2012 16:48:37)

@playarn
never paid a cent in the war. all NPCs and regular war bombs.
i also won hero as a free to play. (with around 80k on that day)



Lord Loss... -> RE: Storyline Progression...What happened? (2/27/2012 16:48:51)

Gold smackie never denied that he used var bombs, hes screenie just proves that he also npced and he has been active in the war since the day it started while ive seen manny Cad members on 1vs1 LB that didnt join till the war was few weeks in and legion already had a big advantage. And i repeat again, If u wanted exiles to win so bad then u should have gotten other exile players to get involved instead of just blaming smackie mokta and manthong for trying to help legion win. What was ur point actually, that smackie helped legion alot more than any exile player helped exile side?



goldslayer1 -> RE: Storyline Progression...What happened? (2/27/2012 16:56:04)

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Gold smackie never denied that he used var bombs, hes screenie just proves that he also npced and he has been active in the war since the day it started
his amount of NPCs and war points he got compared to the ones from super warbomb is a cookie crum next to a dinner table. thats my point. i never said he didn't take part of it, it only proved my point that, his war general was 94%+ from super warbombs

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while ive seen manny Cad members on 1vs1 LB that didnt join till the war was few weeks in and legion already had a big advantage.

we originally weren't going to get involved in the war. we got in the week after the war was released. not near the end as u claim.

and if we didn't participate in the war we would have alot more dailies (due to everyone being active in the frysteland battle causing regular boards to decrease in number). but we chose to help. (i guess its ironic when others say we're selfish)


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And i repeat again, If u wanted exiles to win so bad then u should have gotten other exile players to get involved instead of just blaming smackie mokta and manthong for trying to help legion win.

if i recall correctly i did get others factions involved. me along with many others told other factions to play.
and then threads were made as guides to fighting NPCs better.

and im not blaming man thong, mokta or smackie.
im blaming the money. and all the other advantage they had for their win.

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What was ur point actually, that smackie helped legion alot more than any exile player helped exile side?

u could say he helped legion. but if u look at reality he helped pockets.



Oba -> RE: Storyline Progression...What happened? (2/27/2012 16:59:30)

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but if u look at reality he helped pockets.


Ehh, what? Ó_Ò



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