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Nexus... -> How to Counter OP Stuff (12/29/2012 9:53:08)

If you know someone has azraels bot, don't shield.


Discuss.


How do you counter OP stuff?



Prophet
*Note: OP is self defined, and based on opinion.



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: How to Counter OP Stuff (12/29/2012 10:24:17)

I energy drain to weaken STR Hunters but that only limits their damage output by removing or delaying massacre



Exploding Penguin -> RE: How to Counter OP Stuff (12/29/2012 11:10:57)

Best way to take out strength hunters is to use assimilate and pray you don't get blocked by their 20-30% block chance. EMP is still good to ensure they don't kill you, but you can't deal damage on the same turn you emp, which is a problem.



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: How to Counter OP Stuff (12/29/2012 11:11:58)

EMP is more affective against STR hunters in my mind because assim can be countered by static charge while EMP can take a large chunk of their energy



King Helios -> RE: How to Counter OP Stuff (12/29/2012 11:17:17)

Counter Jugg 2 Plasma Mages, or Malf + E Zerker with a high Energy Shield.



Clutch -> RE: How to Counter OP Stuff (12/29/2012 11:51:38)

How do BH's counter BM's? That's the real question, those guys are tough :P.



Remorse -> RE: How to Counter OP Stuff (12/29/2012 12:44:32)

^ That one is easy,

Blood mages are the only class without an energy regain.


A high lvl emp destroys most of their builds, but due to the poor balance the effortless spamming STR build still beats this counter.

Should change in omega though.



King Helios -> RE: How to Counter OP Stuff (12/29/2012 12:47:23)

@clutch,

EMP (mine takes 40, but 35+ should be good), Reflex Boost (~30+), Heal, Charge!



Clutch -> RE: How to Counter OP Stuff (12/29/2012 12:48:14)

^^ I beg to differ, most Blood Mages use energy boosts and reflex boost, which gives them back energy, so it makes it tough to implement that strategy.



Stabilis -> RE: How to Counter OP Stuff (12/29/2012 12:51:27)

When someone has!-

Then you!-

And you can!-

With less than 25% of all skills being tactical, not much can be said sadly. [X(]



Remorse -> RE: How to Counter OP Stuff (12/29/2012 12:54:47)

@ Clutch I often use the double EMP strategy.

Dont forget EMP has only 2 CD.

In most cases EMPing agian when they try to use energy regain via reflex and boosters will just be a fail attempt with another EMP ready and waiting.

If you make it so you build has enough energy to EMP twice then you should counter them :)



Angels Holocaust -> RE: How to Counter OP Stuff (12/29/2012 13:25:15)

I class change and join them.



King Helios -> RE: How to Counter OP Stuff (12/29/2012 13:27:12)

^ WHAT A GENIUS



Deiselman -> RE: How to Counter OP Stuff (12/29/2012 14:07:53)

@Remorse

quote:

Blood mages are the only class without an energy regain.



hum i think ur totaly wrong cose reflex boost is kinda like a 15% rerout and they can just use an E booster



Remorse -> RE: How to Counter OP Stuff (12/30/2012 1:02:58)

^ They still need energy to cast the reflex boost so technically they have no energy regain if they have no energy excluding boosters.

If you take there energy with a double EMP they should be hopeless, unless of coarse they spam the Bleep out of STR and kill you before you can shout OP.



Blitzex/Sr. Zeph -> RE: How to Counter OP Stuff (12/30/2012 1:56:32)

^

quote:

Blood mages are the only class without an energy regain.

quote:

They still need energy to cast the reflex boost so technically they have no energy regain if they have no energy excluding boosters.


Dont wanna ruin your statement but then BH also has no energy regain, just saying....



Remorse -> RE: How to Counter OP Stuff (12/30/2012 2:00:07)

^ HAHAH good point didnt really think it through,

What I mean is BMs are the most vulnerable to energy drains the most.


BHs can easily chuck out another EMP if they get enregy drained to even levels where as blood mages are essentially stuck with less energy



Nexus... -> RE: How to Counter OP Stuff (12/30/2012 2:02:33)

Blood Mage is the only class without an energy regain, or steal which puts them at a sever disadvantage. Or does it? Nope, because you dont need energy regain when you hit 50's with your guns ^^


Prophet



Blitzex/Sr. Zeph -> RE: How to Counter OP Stuff (12/30/2012 2:09:41)

I dunno, but i think were forgetting a class here.
Mercenaries?
They also dont have energy regain...



DillBagel -> RE: How to Counter OP Stuff (12/30/2012 2:32:24)

@Sr. Zeph
Blood Commander can return massive energy.



Blitzex/Sr. Zeph -> RE: How to Counter OP Stuff (12/30/2012 2:34:34)

^ blood commander regains Health not Energy ;)



Rayman -> RE: How to Counter OP Stuff (12/30/2012 2:38:27)

^
The Point Is that BM Cant steal ENERGY, Thats what you are supposed to understand. (Steal)



DillBagel -> RE: How to Counter OP Stuff (12/30/2012 2:48:56)

@Sr. Zeph
Ohhhhh craaaaaap.
I can't believe I just said that. Must be bed time.



Blitzex/Sr. Zeph -> RE: How to Counter OP Stuff (12/30/2012 2:52:59)

@rayman

Then they must not say that bm doesnt REGAIN energy instead of STEALING.
If they only want to talk about stealing, dont start about regain.



Nexus... -> RE: How to Counter OP Stuff (12/30/2012 2:54:52)

Ok, lets try this for the 3rd time.

BM is the only class that cannot regain energy or steal energy. All other classes can do at least one of each. =)

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