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Remorse -> Massacre way to OP. (2/12/2013 7:11:42)

Just versed a CH, I reduced their str to 2-3 with intimidate,

and with max massacre they still hit 50+

I think massacre needs to factor STR again, like how it was originally calculated.

It is unfair to be practically imune to dubuffs unlike the other ulties which become, SIGNIFICANTLY lower from the malf debuff.




How exactly are you meant to counter an attack which hits 50+ no matter what you do.


Completely ridiculous.



the final hour -> RE: Massacre way to OP. (2/12/2013 7:18:11)

intimidate is pretty worthless theese days. it works better against none strengh builds then strengh builds theese days.



theholyfighter -> RE: Massacre way to OP. (2/12/2013 7:24:25)

quote:

I reduced their str to 1-2 with intimidate

The least amount of Str is 2-3.

Take away their energy!



Stabilis -> RE: Massacre way to OP. (2/12/2013 7:53:22)

^

Maybe we lack the Dexterity, Strength, or skill points for a productive Atom Smasher? This is trying to base the build on 1 skill type (3 ultimate skills).



Remorse -> RE: Massacre way to OP. (2/12/2013 9:14:41)

Im a blood mage so no normal skill energy drain,


I usually get away with frostbite however CHs have static.


Point is all STR skills need a hard nerf currently.



the final hour -> RE: Massacre way to OP. (2/12/2013 10:20:39)

it wnt happen hard enough never does i think the solution might be to after a reasonable level of strengh make it so it only improves every 10 stat points that would kill em off -_-. if every stat was like that it would stop abuse builds that said. rise of the focus builds so idk



theholyfighter -> RE: Massacre way to OP. (2/12/2013 11:04:36)

I thought it's "Strength" that's Oped?1

And the calculation of % based skills.



Scyze -> RE: Massacre way to OP. (2/12/2013 11:40:53)

This is something I also noticed. When I use Intimidate, I still get hit hard.

It should get changed (percentage).



ValkyrieKnight -> RE: Massacre way to OP. (2/12/2013 11:44:54)

Exactly ! I thought I was the only one who thought Intimidate is absolutely pointless, weapon base damage is too damn high. My intimidate reduces strength by 42 and its still not enough to prevent them from doing massive amount of damage with skills.



Remorse -> RE: Massacre way to OP. (2/12/2013 11:50:52)

Intim used to be good on them when they factored in STR more into those attacks.


Now they are weapon based intim needs to be buffed to say reduce STR and weapon damage % skills.

That is if they don't return these skill to how they were orignally calculated.


Intim could get this bonus by the following method.

say you reduce 30 STR with intim,

You also decrease the amount weapon based attacks get by 30% of itself. as a bonus.

So say you has a 100% weapon bonus from massacre,

and a 30 STR debuff was on them, instead of 100% debuff they only have 70% (30% less of 100% makes 70% ) AND 30 less STR.



the final hour -> RE: Massacre way to OP. (2/12/2013 11:55:43)

if they nerf massacre . which they should . wodnt that make intimidate abit OP especially on people who werent rolling abuse builds . i think intimidate needs a buff but that seems abit much .



DeathiZClarity -> RE: Massacre way to OP. (2/12/2013 15:28:35)

Rabble already said a huge nerf is coming to all % based skills such as

Double strike, berserker, bludgeon, cheapshot, and massacre.



Giras Wolfe -> RE: Massacre way to OP. (2/12/2013 22:59:24)

Behold! My solution!



Dual Thrusters -> RE: Massacre way to OP. (2/18/2013 2:33:47)

EMP Grenade: Problem Solved



rayniedays56 -> RE: Massacre way to OP. (2/18/2013 2:37:14)

@noobernaut

Amazing! I didn't know that EMP could also stop raging guns, which ignores 45% defenses!

Sarchasm Off


EMP has it's limits, also not to mention that only 2 classes have EMP, 2 have atom, and one has none while the other has Assimilate.


Energy Storm and Energy Shot help me somewhat, also with my E Shield and Intimidate, but eh, they just wait to rage.





Dual Thrusters -> RE: Massacre way to OP. (2/18/2013 2:54:30)

@above: emp is to stop mass, rage guns are a different story



arthropleura -> RE: Massacre way to OP. (2/18/2013 3:06:44)

for a second i thought i was the ch cos did 60 dmg with no str and a max massacre xD
but that person was a blood mage...



Rowl -> RE: Massacre way to OP. (2/18/2013 17:52:59)

Ive hava a conclusion, Mass is not OP beccause its the only power strong atack they have, isnt a massive damage class like merc or blood mage, so they should have something to defense themselves, if u dont want to get massacred use tactic and steal their energy , have defenses or kill them fast, is the magic of strategy,, u just want to win easy all battles xD



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