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DeathiZClarity -> RE: Devs lying to us now? (3/12/2013 16:37:05)

^ My brother is dyslexic too, not that we need to get into that subject, but it can be a struggle.




The Incredible Hulk -> RE: Devs lying to us now? (3/12/2013 16:49:02)

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What are you hoping most about Omega?



Nothing actually. What ever they do, let them do. Even though I rage sometimes in forums about things that they should improve, its a good thing.

Even if they make the game worse, its sometimes a good thing. I've seen 5 of my friends leave because firstly they thought omega was ''crap'' and in there heads they start to knew that ''hold on, whats the point of wasting my time on games when I can revise and learn to have a good education and have a good job''.

That's the good thing about ED. They start to make people realize that its not all about games, It's about a good education and having a good job also.


Same thing ^^. Even if they lie, they are doing a good thing at least. They are making people realize that its not all about games, its about education also. Things that we don't get because the ''devs didn't make it'' leads into rage and eventually quitting / this is for a purpose to atleast think about education and jobs.




IsaiahtheMage -> RE: Devs lying to us now? (3/12/2013 16:56:11)

@Hulk Are you seriously suggesting the devs are making bad updates and/or leaving out good updates on purpose to make people rage quit and move on with their lives?! By making players quit they would/cloud be losing eventual /current varium players and in turn losing extra money. I don't believe that is what the devs are doing.




DeathiZClarity -> RE: Devs lying to us now? (3/12/2013 17:05:03)

That is not at all what he is saying. He means that as an effect of some of the late updates and suckish (I don't think they are), many people are realizing that life isn't all about games.
He didn't say they are purposely getting rid of players.

What he was saying is that its both a good thing, and a bad thing.

Bad: Epicduel is no fun for some people

Good: Many of the people that quit will get more invovled in school, and be successful in life. Although most will just find another game.




The Incredible Hulk -> RE: Devs lying to us now? (3/12/2013 17:05:56)

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Are you seriously suggesting the devs are making bad updates

When did I say that? When did I even suggest it?
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leaving out good updates on purpose to make people rage quit and move on with their lives?

When did I even say ''good updates on purpose to make people rage quit''


What are you talking about? I didn't say none of that.

@Isiah You are very poor on your english my friend.




lolo666 -> RE: Devs lying to us now? (3/12/2013 17:12:29)

Guys, just to tell you this.

The Developers are trying the best they could.
You just do not know the feeling of how much they sacrifice for the game because you haven't developed a game.
Do not expect that everything will come up on what they say.
So, Developers are currently serving us and giving us the best effort that they could do for the game

Stop this non-sense that Developers are lying -.-

~The Deathgirl




IsaiahtheMage -> RE: Devs lying to us now? (3/12/2013 17:15:04)

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When did I say that? When did I even suggest it?

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Things that we don't get because the ''devs didn't make it'' leads into rage and eventually quitting / this is for a purpose to atleast think about education and jobs.

You make it sound like they aren't giving players things they want so they can rage and eventually quit, and then move on with their lives and think about education and jobs.

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When did I even say ''good updates on purpose to make people rage quit''


What are you talking about? I didn't say none of that.

You didn't have to say it, you pretty much implied it with your previous statement.

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@Isiah You are very poor on your English my friend.

My English is just fine, thank you.




ScarletReaper -> RE: Devs lying to us now? (3/12/2013 17:23:39)

There is a difference between lying and being unable to finish due to time constraints/bugs. I won't pretend that they do a perfect job, but I think for a 5 person team they do extremely well. Also it is true that the archknights don't really allow any sort of criticism, that is also not the dev's fault. That's also why I tend to dissapear from the forums from time to time. Get tired of watching the ak's delete every other topic. lol Plus I'm not exactly on their favorites list. lol




DeathiZClarity -> RE: Devs lying to us now? (3/12/2013 17:32:12)

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The Developers are trying the best they could.
You just do not know the feeling of how much they sacrifice for the game because you haven't developed a game.
Do not expect that everything will come up on what they say.
So, Developers are currently serving us and giving us the best effort that they could do for the game


Thats what I was saying.




truc -> RE: Devs lying to us now? (3/12/2013 18:52:19)

Wow, im not picking sides between who I think is right and wrong this discussion is pointless let's all stop complaining and carry on.




button33 -> RE: Devs lying to us now? (3/12/2013 18:54:19)

Guys, ya know, The devs, like us, only have 24 hours per day. They are not machines....

So dont expect them to work 24/7....

They do the best they can, and you have to appreciate what they are able to do. Its not as easy as you think. Balance takes time to implement, as implementing something may complete destroy the game. With time, anything is possible. So, before you start getting mad, remind yourself that they only have 24 hours, and can only do so much. Be Patient. It will come.




Lycus -> RE: Devs lying to us now? (3/12/2013 19:18:47)

Hey guys, as was stated earlier, I am going to have to lock this up. This is not because I am a super mean AK who does not like even a sniff of criticism, but because I can already see arguments starting up which will possibly develop and also quite a few posts that are not completely on topic nor contributing too much.

I would however just like to touch on a few things here. Firstly, yes AKs lock up and delete a lot of topics and I can see why people can find it annoying or confusing. The one way to solve this though is to simply make sure you have read and know the forum rules, both Universal and Section rules. Things such as Cheating and Hacking discussion or mentioning of is explicitly called out in there as something not to be brought up here and if needed, taken directly to a Moderator or The Lawman. Anything that mentions it in the title will certainly be deleted, because Titles tend to indicate what the post is about, if your title is about or mentions Hacking/Cheating, then... It will be deleted. Once again, the rules clearly state this.

Criticism wise, this is a hard one and has been brought up many times and is certainly an opinion based subject. However AKs will never delete or lock any topics that are clearly constructive criticism, constructive meaning that it takes all views in to opinion, states it in a polite manner and clearly says the issue (and hopefully how it could be solved). If the message is rude or contains flaming, it is not constructive, neither is it if it is clearly there to start an argument with another user. As Charfade says, many of us, Devs, Mods and Testers all help read through the forums through the week and after releases, if posts are constructive we will read and read and read, enjoying the amount of responses on how we can improve things. However when there are one or multiple posts that clearly are there just to attack people or just to have a go at the Devs, then that is where we stop, AKs delete and then move on, possibly even stop reading right there since it has put us off. That is not to say we do not come back since I know that for the most part, the majority of posts on this forum is read by atleast one member of the Team.

Suggestion wise, no end of suggestions have been implemented. RabbleFroth certainly takes player feedback into consideration and implements a lot of player suggested changes (maybe slightly modified to work), which is why the Balance section was created, so ideas could be looked through much easier and faster! Other suggestions, features etc. - Tournaments is the latest one, suggested a while back and has been suggested frequently since. Yes, not completely like players may have described, but it was implemented in the way the engine allowed and it is always open for improvement in future tournaments! As for others, there are many others that have been implemented over time, feel free to PM me if you want a further list of them. It is easy not to notice suggestions being implemented since a lot of them are old suggestions that we have wanted to do for a while, but only just have the means to do it, which means that it is hard to remember that it was from a suggestion after all. Due to the huge nature of the 'to-do' and 'would like to-do' list, new suggestion may not find their way in straight away, especially if they are not a completely needed. They will be fitted into the list where is most appropriate and implemented, once again, as and when time permits!

I know sometimes it is hard to understand why things happen and even why some things do not happen, but there is almost always a reason behind it.




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