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Sir Caden -> Give Blood Mage An Energy Stealing Move (3/25/2013 13:27:06)

Every SINGLE Class in this game has an energy removing moving or stealing E.g. Emp Grenade or Assimaltion or Atom Smasher

Tlm's and Merc's have Atom Smasher

Hunters have Emp Grenade

And Tech Mages have Assimaltion

And what do we Blood Mages have NOTHING

So i beleive that Blood Mages should be given Assimaltion and the skill that should be removed is Plasma Cannon

FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Coolkid1999 -> RE: Give Blood Mage An Energy Stealing Move (3/25/2013 13:27:34)

Isnt Deadly Aim And Blood Lust Enough?



Sir Caden -> RE: Give Blood Mage An Energy Stealing Move (3/25/2013 13:30:07)

Not it is not because it is an EPIC disadvantage to us Blood Mage



Ranloth -> RE: Give Blood Mage An Energy Stealing Move (3/25/2013 14:01:03)

BMs have powerful skill-tree already, they don't need an EP drain. If you need one, there are 2 cores that you can purchase or if you have Frost weapons, then that.

Assimilation to BMs? That'd be too much, especially with BloodLust. Strength-based move to class that focuses on Strength, has DA and BL. No. Assimilation was already in the BM skill tree before, it was taken out because it was too much for the BMs. When was that? When evolved classes were released.

Another point - 4 classes don't have BL, Mercs have some sort of HP regen (active), should we give other 3 classes some kind of HP regen too? No.



Sir Caden -> RE: Give Blood Mage An Energy Stealing Move (3/25/2013 15:09:29)

Trans No we dont we need one and thats FACT



Blitzex/Sr. Zeph -> RE: Give Blood Mage An Energy Stealing Move (3/25/2013 15:10:45)

Ever heard of Energy shot and Plasma rain?

And i think this is more of a balance thing



Ranloth -> RE: Give Blood Mage An Energy Stealing Move (3/25/2013 15:13:59)

We don't have powerful skill-tree? Skills are focused on dealing damage, all stack with BloodLust, some rely on Strength and there's DA on top of it. Power isn't classified in how much damage you deal to enemies but the overall skill tree.

"we need one" - I don't want it, does that mean it's not "we" anymore? You want it, not everyone. It was taken away (Assimilation) before for a reason. And back then, BM skill tree was a bit different.



Exploding Penguin -> RE: Give Blood Mage An Energy Stealing Move (3/25/2013 15:16:28)

@Sir Caden: What's fact, the fact that they don't have an EP drain, or the opinion that they need them? Is it just me, or are you declaring your own opinions as facts? I'd suggest not doing that; it sets up weak arguments which won't help your cause if you want something buffed/nerfed/changed.

As Blitzex said, just use energy shot or energy storm; both are very useful cores. And why is this such a big deal now, and not back in delta? Little has changed except for the fact that blood lust got buffed by 2% and deadly aim got nerfed by 1-2 damage.



King Helios -> RE: Give Blood Mage An Energy Stealing Move (3/25/2013 15:39:17)

To add to above, Deadly Aim + energy Shot = About 15 energy drain with good STR.



Dual Thrusters -> RE: Give Blood Mage An Energy Stealing Move (3/25/2013 18:37:07)

Energy storm could be useful too, so there are possibilities for Blood Mage to play with energy, therefore not supported. The are a fighting class, not a Bounty Hunter



Renegade Reaper -> RE: Give Blood Mage An Energy Stealing Move (3/25/2013 19:02:39)

if the devs make every class so similar in what moves they have, whats the point of even having classes?
if every class had the same moves, just different names, there would actually only be ONE class: the only
difference would be how they looked.



Emperor_Blitz -> RE: Give Blood Mage An Energy Stealing Move (3/26/2013 0:02:15)

blood mages already have some powerful skills in the skill tree like blood lust and also deadly aim, I think that they should just leave BM the way it is



nooooooooob -> RE: Give Blood Mage An Energy Stealing Move (3/26/2013 9:15:51)

add blood commander and intimidate and make it improve whit strength lol



DARK SOUL OF HELL -> RE: Give Blood Mage An Energy Stealing Move (3/26/2013 10:44:02)

one question sir caden .
would you agree do get an energy draining skill in place for bloodlust ?
cause i will be glad to do that switch. :P
dude BM is already strong and very powerful adding an energy draining skill will make them overpowered.
and besides as blitzex have already said, u have 2 energy draining cores



Warmaker04 -> RE: Give Blood Mage An Energy Stealing Move (3/26/2013 10:47:28)

NO. Not supported. u have an core and OP Str skill tree.
If there will be energy steal move to BMs then add blood lust to mercs. If you dont like it then stay like what it is now



Sir Caden -> RE: Give Blood Mage An Energy Stealing Move (3/26/2013 12:04:03)

Some of you here arent even blood mages and No i do not want to swtich a move lik BL for Assamiltion I want to switch Plasma Cannon FACT



Cookielord12 -> RE: Give Blood Mage An Energy Stealing Move (3/26/2013 12:22:06)

BM are balanced. We don't need energy steal. And Plasma Cannon is a good skill, unfortunately BM is geared towards Strength and most don't know how to utilise PC to it's full.



Exploding Penguin -> RE: Give Blood Mage An Energy Stealing Move (3/26/2013 12:24:14)

@Sir Caden: Just because I'm not a BM now doesn't mean I haven't been. I've been a BM 4+ times now, and while I can admit plasma cannon is pathetically weak, the way to fix it is to just buff it up to bunker's damage rather than to use the ridiculous idea of replacing it with an EP drainer. If you really want an EP drainer, give up a skill like reflex boost or energy shield; BM used to have assim, but was later replaced by reflex.



DARK SOUL OF HELL -> RE: Give Blood Mage An Energy Stealing Move (3/26/2013 14:26:06)

i've been a BL before.
sir caden
quote:

No i do not want to swtich a move lik BL for Assamiltion I want to switch Plasma Cannon FACT

here's an idea , how about to also put reroute to BL skill tree instead of fire ball , and SA instead of the stun skill and smoke screen instead of multi shot ? .
that seems gd right ?
seriously dude putting assim to a class that heals with every dmg he does means a skill that does dmg grants EP and HP plus draining energy , woooow now that is an OOOOOOP class :P



Mondez -> RE: Give Blood Mage An Energy Stealing Move (3/26/2013 14:29:43)

Plasma Cannon is somewhat weak and if compare it to Bunker Buster, then Bunker has an edge towards damage than Plasma Cannon.



Ranloth -> RE: Give Blood Mage An Energy Stealing Move (3/26/2013 14:30:24)

Strength based EP drain is a terrible idea for a Str-based class anyway. Even if it was the pre-buff Assimilation, it'd be too much since they'd get HP back, have some form of EP drain and get a little EP back for themselves.

Also, Cannon is weaker than Bunker because it stacks with BL whilst Bunker doesn't. Cannon is good as it is, just gotta know when to use it. And not necessarily maxed either. I don't mind no EP-draining skill as a BM. I have Energy Shot on my Gun which is more reliable than say, Assimilation or Atom. If you don't want it on Gun, there's Primary core. Don't want either? Not our problem but your choice to not have any EP drain.



DARK SOUL OF HELL -> RE: Give Blood Mage An Energy Stealing Move (3/26/2013 14:35:38)

quote:

Plasma Cannon is somewhat weak and if compare it to Bunker Buster, then Bunker has an edge towards damage than Plasma Cannon.

okay guys , u have to stop this .
you are just complaining about stuff u don't understand .
You can't compare skills like that .
you compare a skill tree or complain about an OP skill or anything but u just can't compare skills like that . BM can heal with the dmg they do , imagine that plasma cannon does the same dmg that bunker does . that means BL heal like 10 HP .



Frost the Phoenix -> RE: Give Blood Mage An Energy Stealing Move (3/29/2013 17:33:55)

I now they not an energy stealing moves but you could replace blood lust with one of these to help with energy generation whilst still having reduced health stealing.



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