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beastmo -> Dread War - NPC's (6/6/2013 3:44:47)

As of right now.. I'm thinking Bring back NPC wins counting to record back for this war.

Pros of doing this -

- More People Would Want To Play
As of right now any comment I hear/see if you want to be theoretical Epicduel Sucks/I quit/Epicduel is trash. Well Epicduel is Trash due to the removal of NPC's. Bring Them back for the war and you will see a huge data base increase ;).

Even some of Epicduel's oldest players will come back and play if NPC's are returned

In battle today Comicalbiker said "this game is boring now" and I asked how would you feel about NPC's being returned and he said "I hope so" If long time epicduel supporter/battler is bored of this game there is obviously something wrong.

The Money Side To Things
That new war promo... is a WAR PROMO bring back NPC's More players come in = More $$$. Wouldnt you like that Titan? I know I would if i was you.
More money = Better game = More players = SUCCESS!

Losses

The percent of win/loss ratio will increase higher. Which everyone loves to win of course, thats even a reason why players quit the game. Cant Stand Losing.

Here's a comparison to wins with NPC's and Without
With- http://tinypic.com/m/fxxgrl/1 (In this photo they are still kinda bad but improved)
Without- http://tinypic.com/m/fxxgqx/1

The percent change is just too high. Is this game really full of a bunch of "losers"
Or bring back NPC's and we can become "winners"

IF NPC's Come Back

IF and I repeat IF they come back Make this Unlimited for this war. I never participated in other wars due to quitting, but from what I heard they were unlimited so in this war they might as well be unlimited too.

Just make them stay permanently. Now this is the right choice. (You may say this is my opinion but really its pretty much a fact)



Scyze -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/6/2013 3:48:21)

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Images are the same. http://tinypic.com/m/fxxgrl/1



ReinVI -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/6/2013 3:54:05)

a million times no... People being able to farm the herpy derpy retarded npcs for wins on there record is stupid. You can earn credits by fighting npcs that's ALL they should be good for ( and honestly there not even good for that ) Peoples records shouldn't be padded at all from these 'easy wins' this idea may bring players that only cared about padding there wins so they could look good but honestly this idea is... bad



Mother1 -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/6/2013 4:02:03)

Nope not supported. It would be the ebilcorp war all over again since everyone would just be fighting NPC's for easy wins. Plus as ReinVI said the only people who would come back would be those players who want to easy wins off of NPC and the LB for the daily cheevo's would be wreaked.



Scyze -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/6/2013 4:04:31)

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It would be the ebilcorp war all over again since everyone would just be fighting NPC's for easy wins.
If this is going to be the same, why are the other wars the same?

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Plus as ReinVI said the only people who would come back would be those players who want to easy wins off of NPC and the LB for the daily cheevo's would be wreaked.
Where's your proof? No evidence is available yet so you cannot just assume this.
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the LB for the daily cheevo's would be wreaked.
How so? Would the LB be so damaged that you simple couldn't press the button to see it? All this will do is give players streask of wins.


It would be great that this happene once or twice a year.



Bloodpact -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/6/2013 4:07:57)

Yeah I don't support Npc wins to stats.

Y should people be credited for winning against
a brainless weak machine, with predictable moves
and horrible stats.



Scyze -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/6/2013 4:11:16)

Then they should've not even added it in the first place. I assume nearly everyone's who's level 35 has challenged NPCs for wins. It's been here for a long time and since people are used to it, they cannot seem to bare well with the changes.



Mother1 -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/6/2013 4:14:14)

@ Neos

Ever there the saying Adept or die? Well them taking away NPC wins is part of that like it or not and trust me there were many changes they made I didn't like but all we can do is either grin and bare it or leave.



beastmo -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/6/2013 4:17:33)

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either grin and bare it or leave.


As A varium purchaser I cant "grin and bare it" I've spent too much money to leave and too much to bare it.



ReinVI -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/6/2013 4:18:21)

players that never challenged npcs for wins ? ah well hello nice to meet you I'm one of those players you think don't exist! never fought an npc unless it was for a reason
chievo from named npcs, armor from what's his ugly face in the mine tower, quest makes me fight npc etc etc... I never used npcs as a win record "padder"

and proof ? is the fact a majority of the 'high wins' players have padded numbers not enough? seriously... how many of those players that have high win to loss ratios actually
got that ratio through pvp and not padding there wins with npcs? hmm?



Scyze -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/6/2013 4:24:36)

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armor from what's his ugly face in the mine tower
So you have challenged it for a good reason. The drop rate was 1% so I wonder how many wins you got.
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I never used npcs as a win record "padder"
Err... The Internet is a great place to lie. I don't know the truth you are hiding, you might be telling the truth or be lying. I don't know this...

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Ever there the saying Adept or die?
Don't understand this, at all.
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all we can do is either grin and bare it or leave.
You might find it easy to say this but there are players who've spent over $1000 on this game. Should they really leave it if they don't like it or suggest things to make the game better for themselves and others?

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and proof ? is the fact a majority of the 'high wins' players have padded numbers not enough?
Know why the losses aren't hidden? It was so players to tried hard to have a good win rate should be noticed.
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how many of those players that have high win to loss ratios actually got that ratio through pvp and not padding there wins with npcs?
Do you play EpicDuel mate? I got over 250 wins with 98% win rate once, only a small amount of that was actually NPC battles.



thaddiemac X -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/6/2013 4:27:56)

@Malicious Neos
May i ask you what your record is in 1vs1?



ReinVI -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/6/2013 4:28:27)

actually not that many I got the armor easily within 50 wins ( got sooo lucky xD ) first fight or so I got the physical armor and around the 30 something mark I got the energy varient ( obviously sold one once omega came out and I just had two of the same armor >.> ) and no I don't lie why would I? I take pride in the fact I never 'followed the sheep' and farmed npcs for wins, jumped to an OP build, etc etc...



Scyze -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/6/2013 4:39:01)

@thaddiemac X,
Here: http://prntscr.com/18iyv5
Sorry, you don't get the build. :P

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and no I don't lie why would I?
You don't get the point, you can still be lying.
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I take pride in the fact I never 'followed the sheep' and farmed npcs for wins, jumped to an OP build
OK



thaddiemac X -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/6/2013 4:41:44)

@Malicious Neos
Not sure why u thnk i would want your build? nothing special...anyways im pretty sure half or your wins are from npcs. Nuff said



Scyze -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/6/2013 4:48:04)

Well that's your opinion and I respect that.



Angels Holocaust -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/6/2013 5:05:44)

I don't see why this is an issue. We already know that the majority of players prefer npcs, why is the minority silencing the majority in this issue? We want our npcs back! They do nothing but benefit the players of this game. Balance is now worse off now than it was 3 years ago, if you're going to ignore the players on balance, at least give us the right to beat npcs.



Mother1 -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/6/2013 5:13:16)

@ angel

wrong only you and a certain group of people want NPC wins back. If everyone wanted back do you think people would be opposing this idea?



Scyze -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/6/2013 5:26:06)

@Angels Holocaust,
All you want is Beta to return which I do not want. Varium had a massive difference at that stage and then got lower each state.
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We want our npcs back!
@Mother1, have I been shot in the head? Have the NPC's really vanished?



Mother1 -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/6/2013 5:31:35)

@ Neos

Nope NPC didn't vanish Neos. Last I checked they are still here and can still be challenged for credits and NPC drops, and EXP if you are at levels 1-9.



Ranloth -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/6/2013 5:32:29)

"We want NPCs back... so we can get perfect records because our life revolves around perfect ratio and NPCs. Balance is worse off than 3 years ago because now, NPCs stand a chance and they didn't before. I don't care about balance in PvP, but it's worse vs. NPCs now so game must be very bad! GIMME BACK MY PERFECT RATIO!!!11!1!!!eleven!!"

Basically, this sums it up. ED is not PvE, it's PvP. Get over it.



Bloodpact -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/6/2013 6:01:03)

^

Legit... Epicduel is called right on the front a "PvP Mmorpg"

The fact that they still allowed NPC's to be fought on the side for credits seems more
then generous.



Lady Blue -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/6/2013 6:11:22)

suppored. i want npc wins back!



beastmo -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/6/2013 14:00:22)

The only thing all of you are considering is that its just going to improve ratios. It's just not that it's going to improve the amount of money that the team makes due to old players coming back and paying. Kind of a good marketing strategy ;)



The Incredible Hulk -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/6/2013 14:02:07)

Not supported, you Exiles are going to spam wins from NPC. That's the only thing Exile is good at. Killing NPCs all day.



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