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beastmo -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/6/2013 14:03:46)

@hulk Pretty sure you have legion npcers too.



Lord Noonien Soong -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/6/2013 14:08:23)

2 things to say(really 3):

1.I don't think petition threads are allowed
2.Finally! Someone who understands!
3.I miss the NPCs, and the good missions and storylines



The Incredible Hulk -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/6/2013 14:15:25)

We are much inactive then Exiles are, so still no.

If you want a fair fight, go get it because legion will win!!!!



DunkThatOreo -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/6/2013 14:54:52)

This is why nothing beneficial ever gets done in epic duel. No one seems to understand what's good for epic duel and what isn't. Npc's counting towards your win ratio will not bring players back, maybe a small few but not a lot.



ReinVI -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/6/2013 15:04:46)

Bring old players back and they will pay for varium? my rear end they will! it's already piss easy to beat up npcs why would they buy varium when they can use there old stuff and cream the npcs that way? it's a silly idea that this is a sound "marketing" strategy. All it is is a win ratio padder that's all npcs ever were except the small few that dropped stuff you could sell ... even then those npcs still give drops that you sell for credits ( not much mind you ) so even then the current npc setup is doing what npcs were made for a place of reliable income not a place to pad your W/L ratios.



Mother1 -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/6/2013 15:05:30)

@ dunkthatoreo

You contradicted yourself in that statement. However at the same time I can only see that the people who wanted to polish their Win/loss ratio with NPC wins coming back if they brought back NPC. Besides last I checked the staff has never truely undid any change they did since I have been here, plus making NPC count as wins again means they would need to be limited and since mission drops aren't high this change would screw over anyone trying to get item drops for missions.



beastmo -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/6/2013 15:18:02)

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it's already piss easy to beat up npcs why would they buy varium when they can use there old stuff and cream the npcs that way?


As far as I'm concerned every NPC player bought the promos to stay up to date with Epicduel's current new gear. Just Sayin



Bloodpact -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/6/2013 15:41:20)

^
actually now y would there be any point for them to? any
equipment is just as good as another, with one acceptation on some,
rare cores.

Y would they buy the rare core's all that are to give an edge in PvP
not PvE?o.O? Not to help kill something that's already hella easy to kill
atm.



Mother1 -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/6/2013 15:43:28)

@ beastmo

That was when promo's not only offered stats and possibly a special ability, but also disappeared from the game for good after the event was done.



toopygoo -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/6/2013 15:45:02)

i vote we bring NPC's back as long as Lowe is the standard, for levels 30+.

otherwise, no keep them out of it.

it is a PVP game.

this is the same as in AQW they had a (as in 1) PVP game that people could farm for EXP and they did. when they took it away, people complained a whole lot but got over it because they realized that the game has a story, with missions and NPC's to beat.

this is the exact opposite of that.

Basically, what i am trying to say is that if you dont like PVP games, then go play AQW or DF or whatever, instead of this.



Deathknightmare -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/7/2013 2:26:52)

I think that it is only fair to bring the NPCs back because there is no way someone that is new to the game can get to the 1 v 1 leader board or move up the leader board. I used to play Epic Duel while I watched TV and I played a lot more. Having the NPCs count, I was able to test builds and get my wins in and I wouldn't have to listen to people telling me to get a life or call me a noob as they killed me. I think they should maybe make the NPCs a little tougher and limit it to 75 a day like they used to. Maybe have a specific NPC that you have to fight to get those wins that count. I would 1 v 1 on top of my NPCs because 1 v 1 are just too slow and I'm too busy in real life to bang out 50 wins in 3 hours.



silent killer i -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/7/2013 2:50:50)

Bring Back NPC's Please!



Angels Holocaust -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/7/2013 3:37:06)

All we have to do is implement an in-game poll to see what the players want. The forum consists of 2-8 percent of the population.



kaiseryeux21 -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/7/2013 3:51:08)

This game is far better w/o NPC counted towards W/L record so its a no. Although i have to admit i benefited a lot from these NPC wins. We are now moving forward, let's not bring back old stuffs.



ReinVI -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/7/2013 4:34:41)

Angels get over it seriously... Obviously if they put a poll in game a majority would say yes I'm sure of it want to know why? because a majority of the players don't give a you know what
about the game being "fair for everybody" as long as it benefits them. They wanna be able to pad there wins of course! so obviously they would agree with this ridiculous idea. You can't
always trust the majority ... think of it this way America wouldn't have been founded if a small group ( christopher columbus ) didn't stray away from the rest of the sheep and say "you know what I'm sailing that away cause the earth isn't flat! this applies here where a majority would believe that the npcs should count as wins ( world is flat ) this minority that opposes is doing so
because they know what's better for the long term life of this game and the betterment of the (people ) players.



Drianx -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/7/2013 5:25:32)

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Obviously if they put a poll in game a majority would say yes..

You can stop right here. If the majority wants it, then it should be so.



Mother1 -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/7/2013 6:09:33)

@ drianx

Even if the majority did want it if the staff doesn't approve it will never be.



toopygoo -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/7/2013 6:21:17)

ok guys, for all of you here at the end of the thread:

this post was not about starting a pledge to bring back NPC's but rather looking for points for or against the idea itself.

if you are new to the forums, i suggest checking out the rules and etiquette threads too for some tips on how to make your opinion count.

NPC's will not be brought back, again, because this is a PVP game, not PVE, the focus is to battle other players. if you dont like battling other players than you are not the target audience of the devs, and feel free to leave the game. no one is making you stay.



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toopygoo -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/7/2013 9:42:23)

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I simply cannot find where it states, it's a PvP game, yet I find PvP accessible.

i have mentioned this previously in another post.
yes, NPC's are still accessible here too, they just dont cxount to your win/loss ratio.
Oversoul has not declared where it stands on this issue, so you cannot use that argument. Besides, oversoul has no way of displaying any kind of stat, and there is very little experience that needs to be gained for any purpose and the maximum level is like 10 i think for the "armor/class" (i dont even know what they are called.. the game has many little things that bug, and although its a good idea, its not carried out well) therefore, it doesnt really matter what you face when this has no effect on other players, rankings, stats or anything like that.
and League of Legends: ultimately, you are facing other players, who have the potential to challenge you while you are battling the environment, therefore it is still PvP even while you are challenging the environment.

there are no such records in AQW as to how many people/monsters you have killed, versus the number of times you have died.
ED does record this and can change your reputation to other players based on the display of this stat.

quote:

To be absolutely honest, I don't care about NPC's counting to your records anymore

if this is your opinion, you are most welcome to enjoy it, however, i recommend you do not go around and attempt to find "flaws" with other people posts for the sheer enjoyment of it.
thank you



Scyze -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/7/2013 18:20:51)

@toopygoo,
It's level 20 for OverSoul.
quote:

sheer enjoyment of it.
How do you know this?

Did you even get the point of that post. Even though games are PvP based, they still manage to add features in which takes them away from PvP. A PvE game based could be PvP as well even though it was never told.



toopygoo -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/7/2013 18:49:44)

yeah i got the point of your post. did you get the point of mine?
ED is dedicated to one type of gaming style: PvP

New people aren't the ones the leaderboards are made for, yet they are still the ones who actually rule it.

its not they ED cant MANAGE to add PVE features, its that they dont WANT to add these features because they want have a certain path they want their players to follow.
NPC farming isnt it.




Scyze -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/7/2013 18:53:12)

quote:

ED is dedicated to one type of gaming style: PvP
You seem to still not get the point of my post. Even though games are considered as a PvP based, it can change.



toopygoo -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/7/2013 19:07:26)

you dont seem to get mine: It wont. ED is notorious for not undoing changges it makes. it took NPC battles away. we are not getting them back.



Scyze -> RE: Dread War - NPC's (6/7/2013 19:10:04)

quote:

we are not getting them back.
It could still happen, something in the distant future could get it to happen.



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