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Ranloth -> RE: EpicDuel all classes Balanced (12/15/2013 12:19:13)

Actually, EMP is effective at low level despite the Energy cost attached to it, but inefficient Static Charge makes it difficult to use efficiently, especially later on in the battle, when you need to regenerate Energy and SC isn't effective.
Support builds can also work, with Malf + Matrix, but the drawback is SC. Likewise with Dex builds. Tech builds are a bit lack-luster, I agree, but a semi-tank does work. All-rounder. Still, drawback is... SC.

Ideal change, to benefit all builds, would be first version of Static Charge! It wasn't really that dependant on Strength + weapon damage was nerfed since then, effect was guaranteed but not the damage, and it was efficient for everyone - just more efficient for Strength builds, but not aimed at them.



kaierti1 -> RE: EpicDuel all classes Balanced (12/15/2013 15:02:57)

people i dont saying that im not satisfied or some classes are weak. i'm just saying that there are 2 really better classes bounty hunter and tank tech mage. against them we (other 4 classes) are weak and we cant play. need nerf them for balance. everyone wants balance. why there are 80-90% players bounty hunter? such game is boring. just do it for us for people. i will tell just such: i am blood mage and i have some chances maybe 40-60 against bm, ch, focus 5 tech mage, tlm and merc i have win chance 40% or 50% or 60% and it is normal but i have 10-20% win chance against bhs and against tank tech mages. this is a big problem. other 4 classes have such problem too, that they cant play againt these 2 classes. i showed best builds and said that all class are good but not against bh and tank tm. we cant do anything. just look when u saw last focus 5 blood mage with energy parasite using? or cyber hunter focus 5 build with? or tactical mercenary? they dont using focus 5 because all build are weak against bounty hunter and tank tech mages. we dont like this. also we dont want that all change to one class bounty hunter



Altador987 -> RE: EpicDuel all classes Balanced (12/15/2013 15:05:07)

why not just add necessary buffs?



Dual Thrusters -> RE: EpicDuel all classes Balanced (12/15/2013 15:38:49)

Nothing good happens if we nerf BH and TM

Other classes will still be as crappy as usual because the have bad synergy and unusable skills.



kaierti1 -> RE: EpicDuel all classes Balanced (12/15/2013 16:13:30)

Dual Thrusters,
man my energy parasite is not so bad. it perfect works against tank tech mages i have 40-60% chance against them but i can fight. but ep is weak against bounty hunters. it is really worst. dont work in any case. if bh's static grenade energy steal is lower and tank tech mages get weaker, we will see how works energy parasite or static charge or static smash or etc. and what i said that dont need buff other 4 classes because they are good but need 2 class nerf which are better than these 4 class. i hope u understand this. other 4 class can fight each other and they will have 40-60% chance to win between them, but problem is in other 2 classes



Dual Thrusters -> RE: EpicDuel all classes Balanced (12/15/2013 16:18:35)

They are balanced because all of their skills have synergy. That's what all the classes should be like.

Nerf them, and you will still have atrocious skills like Supercharge on BM, Plasma Grenade on CH, Tlm with no good offensive skills etc.

You will never have variety this way. balance is being able to make any build you want and do good with it.



DarkDevil -> RE: EpicDuel all classes Balanced (12/15/2013 16:20:51)

exactly the point , staff should stop nerfing and start buffing (or tweaking since buffing doesn't stand correctly where some things must change)
even if static grenade was removed , cybers remain unable to effectively gain energy and has no way to regain hp , this won't change by nerfing.
tlms need a debuff and some snyrgy since the 2 builds are poison str and supp , this won't be done by nerfing.
blood mages needs to be tweaked as some skills like bludegon has 2.3 effectiveness , other skills as fire bolt have no use in game and should be reconsidered.



kaierti1 -> RE: EpicDuel all classes Balanced (12/15/2013 16:30:31)

this bad situation happens only because that bounty hunter stealing us 42-48 energy. problem is in this. before release static grenade bounty hunters were weak class i know this, but look 1 thing changed and they got op, everyone changed to bh and they can easy win over other 5 classes because of static grenade. people was not complaining before release this skill, they saying bh is weak but not complaining but now there is terrible situation. we dont want any class be stronger. every class in each other must have 50-50% win chance. we know what is problem its bh energy steal, and second problem tank tech mages which are good against all classes and builds: str, support or focus 5 but not against bounty hunters



Dual Thrusters -> RE: EpicDuel all classes Balanced (12/15/2013 16:33:36)

Nerf Static Grenade, and BHs lose half of their usable builds. Seriously, I'm actually seeing variety in this class. I've fought Multi Shot builds, Venom Strike builds....that's a good thing!



kaierti1 -> RE: EpicDuel all classes Balanced (12/15/2013 16:40:13)

Dual Thrusters,
i pay attention-ed that: every bh build is good, dont matter what dex or what tech or something u have, if u are bh, all builds working hard against other 5 classes. EVERY build are strong because of static grenade. this is very bad. i remember when blood mage's had Deadly Aim i swear even bounty hunter's number was high in epicduel than blood mages and now they got 3x more or 4x or 5x more. just its bored watching about 1 month op bounty hunters. please wake up devs. almost all are bounty hunter, who like that?



Altador987 -> RE: EpicDuel all classes Balanced (12/15/2013 17:48:23)

@dual i don't think you're gonna get anywhere by proving your point any further unfortunately but yea i'm hoping they can balance all the other classes like the bh so we can experience some awesome variety



DarkDevil -> RE: EpicDuel all classes Balanced (12/16/2013 0:35:01)

if classes work well , then you will break it , instead of making other classes viable ?
if some classes aren't viable you will make other classes unviable ?



Dual Thrusters -> RE: EpicDuel all classes Balanced (12/16/2013 2:21:29)

@dark

Well said



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