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poopbum -> RE: Pets/Guest - Read the first post! (10/11/2015 9:19:57)

What is the Poutine Golem's MC bonus?

Lesser penalty on the Entangle. ~IMR



Legendary Ash -> RE: Pets/Guest - Read the first post! (10/14/2015 18:31:12)

Why Poutine Golem's Entangle doesn't get modified by FireResist? Is the effect outdated in such that it can't include it, if so can you update the effect?



Seth Hydra -> RE: Pets/Guest - Read the first post! (10/15/2015 3:55:34)

SQUIDGE: http://forums2.battleon.com/f/fb.asp?m=21822183

The squidge is superior in every way, seeing as how it gets a BtH boost after the status has been inflicted. While the golem would get a bigger penalty, almost twice as much, I think the entangle being dependent on fire-res would be great.



Mordred -> RE: Pets/Guest - Read the first post! (10/15/2015 4:38:48)

The Entangle also has a DoT effect on it as well. It may be paying for that damage with the inability to scale with FireRes, because the damage done by the Burn is dependent on that instead.



Ianthe -> RE: Pets/Guest - Read the first post! (10/15/2015 16:02:22)

That's mostly a design decision rather than a balance one, but if you really want it, then sure. The DEX penalty is now multiplied by the monster's Fire resist.



Legendary Ash -> RE: Pets/Guest - Read the first post! (10/15/2015 17:07:24)

Poutine Golem's normal attack needs an MC bonus when Entangle/Fire Bleed is active like how Death Flair gets +5% dmg.

This has already been folded into its main attack. Without it, the Entangle would only be worth -10 DEX. ~IMR

Do you mean the MC from the normal attack has been absorbed into the Entangle so twice the MC power for Entangle?

Correct, more or less. It's not exactly twice, but you got the idea behind it. ~IMR



Carandor -> RE: Pets/Guest - Read the first post! (10/16/2015 17:34:43)

quote:

Mana Bat
«Accurate Water Guest. Costs SP. Mastercraft; can toggle between attack and MP healing modes.»

Location: [link=]Call Mana Bat[/link] 
PowLvl	10 MC	30 MC	50 MC	70 MC	90 MC	110 MC	130 MC	153 MC
CostLvl	10	30	50	70	90	110	130	152

SPCost	8	16	24	34	45	57	70	86
If you do not have enough SP then he does nothing for one turn* (without costing SP).

ATTACK MODE
Hits: 2
Type: Magic
Element: Water 
Damage	2-4	5-10	8-16	12-24	16-33	21-42	27-53	34-67
Stat%	88.19	158.31	228.44	298.56	368.69	438.81	508.94	589.58
BTH	7	12	17	22	27	32	37	43
MP HEALING MODE
Hits: 2
Type: Magic
Element: Water 
Damage	1-2	2-5	4-8	6-11	8-15	10-20	13-25	16-32
Stat%	41.77	77.99	108.21	141.42	174.64	207.86	241.08	279.27
BTH	12	17	22	27	32	37	42	48
EFFECT
  • Click on the guest to swap between attack mode† and MP healing mode††.
  • Mp healing mode heals your MP equal to the damage dealt times the listed multiplier. 
    Mult	3.48686	2.39886	1.95307	1.72383	1.57040	1.59944	1.62784	1.64450
    **The bat flutters, waiting for you to be ready. «» SP required.
    ††Your Mana Bat will now strike for full damage!
    ††Your Mana Bat will now siphon mana to you with its attack!

    [img]http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx31/Carandor/Info%20subs/Guests/Mana%20Bat_zpsc1iwzd1q.jpg[/img]

    Numbers thanks to In Media Res.

    Analysis

    Guest starts out with: 
    Level	10	30	50	70	90	110	130	150
PowLvl	10	30	50	70	90	110	130	153

Damage	5-9	10-21	17-34	25-51	35-69	45-90	57-113	72-143
Stat	186.75	335.25	483.75	632.25	780.75	929.25	1077.75	1248.525
BTH	2	7	12	17	22	27	32	38
  • ATTACK MODE gains +5 BTH and deals *85/90 damage. With two equally powerful hits, each hit does *1/2 damage.
  • MP HEALING MODE gains +10 BTH and deals *85/95 damage. It does *0.50 damage to pay for the MP heal. With two equally powerful hits, each hit does *1/2 damage.

    All this has ALREADY been factored in to the above numbers.


    Updates

    October 16, 2015: The guest was released.

    • Got this. ~Carandor



    Ianthe -> RE: Pets/Guest - Read the first post! (10/16/2015 18:41:42)

    quote:

    Mana Bat

    Magic Water guest. Costs SP to maintain.

    Can select between two attacks by clicking on the guest:
  • Normal attack, two hits, +5 BTH lean
  • Mana drain attack. Two hits, +10 BTH lean. You heal MP equal to the damage dealt times the listed multiplier. 
    Level	10	30	50	70	90	110	130	150
Type	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	G
PowLvl	10	30	50	70	90	110	130	153

CostLvl	10	30	50	70	90	110	130	152
SPCost	8	16	24	34	45	57	70	86

Base	5	10	17	25	35	45	57	72
Rand	4	11	17	26	34	45	56	71
Stat	186.75	335.25	483.75	632.25	780.75	929.25	1077.75	1248.525
BTH	2	7	12	17	22	27	32	38

Mult	3.48686	2.39886	1.95307	1.72383	1.57040	1.59944	1.62784	1.64450
								
Price	20	59	370	2879	23109	186205	1501143	12102583
Sell	10	29	185	1439	11554	93102	750571	6051291

    (Note: The Mult numbers are weird 'cause they're partially based on [MP Cost] / [Average guest damage], and those two numbers don't play very nicely with each other.)

    • Got this. ~Carandor



    SonicTbear -> RE: Pets/Guest - Read the first post! (10/16/2015 19:23:34)

    So in other words, you don't receive mana if the enemy's Water resistance is 0% or in the negatives, right?

    Right, 'cause you do no damage. ~IMR



    afterlifex -> RE: Pets/Guest - Read the first post! (10/16/2015 20:14:43)

    Is normal mode full dmg & what is the penalty on healing mode?



    Rayimika -> RE: Pets/Guest - Read the first post! (10/18/2015 14:45:47)

    quote:

    Can select between two attacks by clicking on the guest:
    Normal attack, two hits, +5 BTH lean
    Mana drain attack. Two hits, +10 BTH lean. You heal MP equal to the damage dealt times the listed multiplier.

    Mana Bat is doing less damage on second attack. Is that intended?



    Heroes of the Scape -> RE: Pets/Guest - Read the first post! (10/18/2015 19:24:48)

    Yes, because he has a greater BTH Lean it gives him a greater damage penalty.



    afterlifex -> RE: Pets/Guest - Read the first post! (10/18/2015 22:03:45)

    ^ that only accounts for a small portion. The difference in dmg is close to 50%

    edit: this kind of effect often does have a penalty towards it so the question is simply how much.



    Ianthe -> RE: Pets/Guest - Read the first post! (10/19/2015 15:31:52)

    Oops, forgot to mention - Attack#1 does full damage. Attack#2 does x50% damage to pay for the healing.



    Mordred -> RE: Pets/Guest - Read the first post! (10/21/2015 0:18:33)

    Does it have an MC going into that?



    Carandor -> RE: Pets/Guest - Read the first post! (10/23/2015 20:27:52)

    quote:

    Mau of Osiris
    DESCRIPTION
    This feline friend isn't exactly fluffy, but it can summon the powers of a divine curse that will terrify yours foes!
    [img]http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx31/Carandor/Info%20subs/Pets/Mau%20of%20Osiris_zpsffrb97bg.jpg[/img]
    POPUPS:
    Your «» divine curse has terrified your foe!
    Your opponent is shaken by your «» divine curse, but they stand firm.
    Those aligned with Light are immune to the fear-inducing effects of this attack.

    Got this. ~Carandor



    Heroes of the Scape -> RE: Pets/Guest - Read the first post! (10/25/2015 0:37:34)

    Never mind. New tool let me fix my broken link!



    Ianthe -> RE: Pets/Guest - Read the first post! (10/29/2015 17:00:00)

    quote:

    Kam says:

    Mau of Osiris

    Light pet, has two attacks, a claw slash that does +5% damage, and an Eye of Horus attack. Latter attack attempts to inflict Fear, and is only used if the mob isn't already under Fear. Pet also has a 2/3 random lean, because cat.

    [Eye attack does -39.625% damage. If it connects, then the monster becomes Afraid (1 round, 30*[Light res]% chance of not acting). It can resist with a save (CHA/LUK vs CHA/LUK).

    If you're in the Osiris armour and shield, then both attacks do +10% additional damage.] 
    Level	11	45	60	75	90	105	120	135	150
Type	Z	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	G
PowLvl	45	45	60	75	90	105	120	135	153

Base	5	5	7	9	12	14	17	20	24
Rand	21	21	28	37	45	57	67	80	95
Stat	297.75	297.75	372	446.25	520.5	594.75	669	743.25	832.35
BtH	11	11	15	18	22	26	30	33	38

MCPrice	715	226	1023	4841	23109	110509	528689	2529504	12102583

    Got this. ~Carandor



    Seth Hydra -> RE: Pets/Guest - Read the first post! (10/29/2015 17:12:06)

    How is the cat ever supposed to do the first attack if the control infliction is only for 1 turn? Or is this a provision in case the status has already been inflicted by other sources?



    Thor -> RE: Pets/Guest - Read the first post! (10/29/2015 17:46:55)

    Cat keeps throwing fear at the monster, does not do its claw attack as stated in info subs.



    Andlu -> RE: Pets/Guest - Read the first post! (10/29/2015 18:06:58)

    It would if fear was for 2 turns
    being for one the cat automatically uses the fear attack again
    which means
    or it's supposed to combo with other fear equipament
    or it's bugged



    Ianthe -> RE: Pets/Guest - Read the first post! (10/30/2015 0:53:17)

    Investigating. I'll fix it up in the morning / once the release is done.



    Ianthe -> RE: Pets/Guest - Read the first post! (10/31/2015 8:32:45)

    Mau is still being worked on.
    IMR says:

    quote:

    Moglin Ghost

    Wind pet.

    50% chance of one Melee hit, 50% total damage.
    50% chance of three Ranged hits, 150% total damage.

    Bonus: steals 20-30 Mogloween candy for each hit that connects. (The pet isn't MC - I'm handwaving this as a "set bonus" 'cause you need to use some other item to spend the candy to get any use out of it.) 
    Level	15	35	55	75	95	115	135	150
Type	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
PowLvl	15	35	55	75	95	115	135	150

Base	4	8	13	18	25	32	40	46
Rand	4	8	12	19	24	32	40	47
Stat	149.25	248.25	347.25	446.25	545.25	644.25	743.25	817.5
BtH	3	8	13	18	23	28	33	37

Price	22	81	558	4401	35390	285234	2299549	11002348
Sell	11	40	279	2200	17695	142617	1149774	5501174
    Got this, thanks! ~Carandor



    Kaelin -> RE: Pets/Guest - Read the first post! (10/31/2015 9:50:45)

    Is the L150 pet supposed to be Guardian (PL153)?



    Carandor -> RE: Pets/Guest - Read the first post! (11/1/2015 3:37:54)

    quote:

    Moglord Ghost
    DESCRIPTION
    She might have been a little cranky after being woken up like that, but this ghost is perfectly happy to resume her life of heroics and quest along side you! She'll even loot some Mogloween candy off your foes for you!
    [img]http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx31/Carandor/Info%20subs/Pets/Moglord%20Ghost_zpsqokka2o2.jpg[/img]
    Got this. ~Carandor



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