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Red Komet -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (6/8/2014 11:30:38)

Speaking of which I would like to see Quibble explain himself about that Dialog

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Like after the Hero became Chaos Lord Quibble should just tell some explanation about his dialog from last time



ThatHeroGuy -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (6/8/2014 12:01:48)

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^If Quibble still wants to approach us



The ErosionSeeker -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (6/8/2014 16:41:08)

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A quick Google search of the definition of "at his side"...
by (or at) someone's side
phrase of side
1.
close to someone, especially so as to give them comfort or moral support.
"a stepson who stayed by your side when your own son deserted you"

It doesn't have to mean physically at his side. In fact, very few Chaos Lords were physically with Drakath for longer than... a short while.
"Waiting for you" could mean waiting for you to arrive for him to transform you, but that text was during Into Chaos, and not quite Mount Doomskull (was it?)

It was kind of obvious and cliched, but any other choice would be dissatisfying.



Ryu -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (6/8/2014 19:58:12)

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It's going to be fun doing a few releases where we war against the people we had to protect for so long.



Shadowhunt -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (6/8/2014 20:06:27)

Someone else may want to test this but I think the Chaos Dragons are now correctly tagged as Chaos instead of Dragon, as Chaorrupter Unlocked seems to be working against them.

Just tested with Mage, Chaorrupter Unlocked does indeed double the damage against the Chaos Dragon, so it's now Chaos tagged instead of Dragon tagged.



Dual Thrusters -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (6/8/2014 20:14:57)

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We could just lose the war on purpose and prevent the portal from unleashing the mother?



ShadowMoon -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (6/8/2014 20:33:05)

speaking of that weapon, are they gonna make the locked version available again for those of us that preferred the old art work? like how you can get a blade of awe after upgrading it to prime.
@Dual Thrusters i doubt theys let that happen. though they did let you stab artix in the back in doom wood



Saoni -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (6/8/2014 21:23:38)

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Making us the 13th lord of chaos is a bad choice...think about it this is a MMORPG, meaning there are thousands of people playing. That means thousands of chaos lords.

Your not the 13th lord of chaos, your the 7893th lord of chaos.


~Ulitra



Ryu -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (6/8/2014 21:30:49)

It has been like that from the beginning with the hero. Every person you play with isn't the Hero. You are. As far as the story is concerned they are normal everyday warriors. I still don't see why people are complaining though. It was obvious who the 13th Lord was with all of the hints we got. I'm glad we'll actually get to experience something new for once.



zanathos -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (6/8/2014 21:33:54)

@Ulitra Destroyer:

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They addressed that in the final cutscene, if you paid attention and actually read it. For intents of the story, you are the main 13th Chaos Lord, and all the other players are your minions. It just requires you to employ a bit of your imagination.



teravor -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (6/8/2014 21:57:47)

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I like how we, the player, actually will manage to be the most proactive chaos lord, fighting alongside our minions and not just letting them get pummeled. It fits with our hero being less calculating and more... punchy-ing than most others.



Saoni -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (6/8/2014 22:05:49)

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I dont really care for imagination, its just not well thought out, thats all.

and @zanathos

If you really paid attention and took the time to read you'd know drakath addressed multiple "hero's" acknowledging the fact that theirs more then one hero.


~Ulitra



Ryu -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (6/8/2014 22:25:24)

Drakath isn't saying heroes as in multiples of our character. He means all heroes in AQW like Artix, Warlic, etc. There's a difference between " the heroes" and "The Hero" that we are.



Red Komet -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (6/8/2014 22:27:16)

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Anyway I would like to see the Hero's talk as a Chaos Lord and considering Chaos can twist a person's nature into something they are not The Hero may end up acting like The Serious Enforcer Person rather than The Hotblooded Pun Hero we all know and even Anakin acts like some hotblooded hero only to end up as The Enforcer Darth Vader



ShadowMoon -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (6/8/2014 22:34:49)

@ULITRA DESTROYER now watch the pokemon anime & read the pokemon special manga. yep thats about how much game mechanics mean to the story itself. where has it ever been said in aqw's story that "the hero" is a multitude of heroes? "the hero" is just a character thats part of the story. the story has never been made to account for the fact that there are multiple heroes nor has there ever been 2 heroes in the same cutscene. this isn't gaia online, story events are not made to account for the fact that its an mmo. their made the same way they would if you where playing a single player game, which is how us solo players go about it until they throw out those freaking one shot bosses.
oh as for the nature twisting part, it seems to me like chaorruption doesn't twist someones person, just enchances a part of their nature to the point it blinds them. better explains kimberly's case considering chaos was her element before she got chaorrupted.



Red Komet -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (6/9/2014 10:05:11)

Anyway The War Might have some things that are interesting as well as The 13th Beast of Chaos being revealed before The Drakath conflict



zanathos -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (6/9/2014 16:53:31)

@ShadowMoon and @UlitraDestroyer I don't know if you've seen this, but imagine it as if it were SAO. Yes, there are a multitude of other players striving to defeat the game, and there are nameless warriors that fight the bosses and whatnot, but for all intents and purposes, Kirito is the main character and the hero of the story. In AQW, each player is their own Kirito. For story purposes, the other players are all just nameless warriors that help you further your goal.



Jolan3000 -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (6/9/2014 19:05:24)

I want to have the 13 Chaos Beast like a pet that will be so cool :)



Ryu -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (6/9/2014 19:09:55)

Some of the other chaos beasts have pet versions so it's always a possibility. I have a feeling the Time Dragon set Zoshi made could come with a pet. It looks too nice and is CC so I doubt it's going to be a drop or anything though.



majesticstar3800 -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (6/9/2014 19:10:41)

Stalagbite Pet is the best looking of the Chaos Beast pets :D



ShadowMoon -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (6/9/2014 19:13:32)

@zanathos
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this isn't gaia online, story events are not made to account for the fact that its an mmo. their made the same way they would if you where playing a single player game, which is how us solo players go about it until they throw out those freaking one shot bosses.



Red Komet -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (6/9/2014 19:21:54)

Though SAO dose not fit the MMO part, Anyway there can be some speculations on Drakath's Choice of 13

Lets see Drakath gives The Hero a weapon that can defeat Drakath soon as well as making The Hero Chaos Lord 13 this might mean that Drakath sees The Hero as a perfect replacement and that a Champion defeated by The Strongest of The Same Element will end up having said strongest into the new champion



Hollow Knight -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (6/9/2014 19:24:05)

There is no reason Drakath would give us a weapon that can destroy him, it's not a solid plan. You don't give out the "nukes" to your enemy Drakath is arrogant but not that arrogant.



zanathos -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (6/9/2014 19:27:38)

@Shadowmoon: Nope, that isn't correct, because during wars, characters mention you and other warriors fighting to defeat waves. The story does account for the other players, albeit not in direct, obvious ways. It works a lot like how I mentioned it.



Ryu -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (6/9/2014 19:45:28)

Drakath said we might have stood a chance if we defeated the 13th Lord of Chaos before fighting him. I wonder why that would matter at all.



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