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Atlas -> Clues V (9/30/2006 23:34:55)

http://forums2.battleon.com/f/tm.asp?m=6555070
http://forums2.battleon.com/f/tm.asp?m=6556024
http://forums2.battleon.com/f/tm.asp?m=6556948
http://forums2.battleon.com/f/tm.asp?m=6562821
http://forums2.battleon.com/f/tm.asp?m=6569707
http://www.angelfire.com/planet/themessenger755/
http://psyham.googlepages.com/encyclopediaoftruth


This is for the clue hunters, the curious, and the devoted.




gastria -> RE: Clues V (9/30/2006 23:35:21)

Here we go again! Hey, the Messangers site changed again! Or is that old?

Edit: To below: It's been like that for a bit now. Since around... 7:55...




twilight_dweller -> RE: Clues V (9/30/2006 23:35:59)

Hey you changed your avvy... Does that mean anything?




Winged Pink Emo Otter -> RE: Clues V (9/30/2006 23:36:19)

bleh. s0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o confuzzling. cant wait for the truth to be revealed!




MegaSlaya -> RE: Clues V (9/30/2006 23:37:16)

LISA? NOVA? What is this Maxwell??

755?



EXPLAIN!




gastria -> RE: Clues V (9/30/2006 23:37:22)

Oh by the way, thanks to all those (few) on the old thread who helped me be able to use the IRC thing. Even though your ideas didn't work, I finally got it working, and thanks for trying!




Brenton Zera Storm -> RE: Clues V (9/30/2006 23:37:23)

OKAY! I came back from the chatroom, and I hope this has meaning to you:

777777777777777777777775555555555555555555555555555555555555


I cant make heads or tails of it.




Maxx the Caretaker -> RE: Clues V (9/30/2006 23:40:27)

Okay, going to take a stab at this even though this is more like 16 ga buckshot.

Let’s start with a couple of things to keep in mind while untangling this mess. First, the different time periods/realities involved, of which I’m counting five. These are the following:
1. Characters’ reality in the past—not the past as in DF, but the past as in eons ago when the Devourer first appeared
2. Players’ reality in the past—our past
3. Characters’ reality in present time—this is our characters in the world of Lore
4. Players’ reality in present time—this is us as we click away on the “attack” button
5. Characters’ reality in the future—our brief encounter in the future

Second, let’s recall for a moment that mythology is typically a story created by a primitive culture to explain events otherwise unexplainable. Egyptian, Greek, and Roman, mythology do just that. In fact, one of the links on the blog just provided does that in modern times—the wiki reference to cryptozoology. The yeti, bigfoot, and the loch ness monster, are all modern myths developed to describe events or sightings we can’t explain. For this discussion, we need to draw a fine line between mythology and theology, for this is not the place to discuss people’s current religious beliefs. Please do not start down that path.

Now, to systematically go through the realities I’ve listed above. The past of Lore, which can be taken as relatively primitive, has been revealed to us through two books in the Isle’s library. The first encompasses the creator, the devourer, and the eight elemental lords; and the second depicts the fisherman. (Thank you, Lkeas, for adding transcriptions of both to the Truthpedia.) Since there seem to be ten named faceless and ten characters in the story, it makes sense that they are matched. It would make sense that to a primitive individual a highly intelligent cloaked alien would be considered godly and depicted as such in mythology. So, the eight—Truth, Lies, Life, Death, Peace, War, Eternal, and Transient—were described in Lore’s mythology as the elemental lords. One note in the origins story to be made is that the lords never fought amongst themselves, but rather the followers seeking more power than deserved. Somehow, that sounds a lot like current Paxia to me. That leaves the Devourer and the Creator as Omega and Hope. If Omega is coming to destroy Lore in darkened shadow, this seems to make sense. Furthermore, the idea of individuals carrying small pieces of a “creator” inside them is a central theme to many belief systems. So, the ideas that Hope and Creator are synonymous and individually our characters carry Hope are feasible. This story lays out the characters and tells of the Devourer’s (Omega’s) arrival in the past. It also hints at what happened in the past, i.e. the Devourer did not destroy everything but rather left a wasteland so that life could begin again. Otherwise, our characters would not exist. Next, the fisherman’s tale looks rather familiar to those of us participating in Paxia—a lowly fisherman gaining powers he doesn’t deserve destined to become a bloodthirsty monster. However, no ending or timeframe accompanies the story so we don’t know if he helps fight the Devourer (Omega) or hinders our efforts or has nothing to do with the war. Lastly, we have the story of four eyewitnesses to the arrival of the Devourer (Omega)—the four in the vault. This doesn’t help much other than the clock counting down presumably to the Devourer’s (Omega’s) arrival. Please note that the clock we see in the vault is not the actual clock ticking since the one we see resets every time we open the vault. Also, this clock has been described as being precise and created by highly intelligent people, which would describe an alien race. Truth refers to the vault when he speaks of a box containing Lore’s doom that was opened.

With this in mind, references to the players’ past, i.e. pyramids, aliens in Egyptian times, Greek mythology, etc, are given to remind us of what I just previously stated. Our ancestors imagined some crazy stories to explain things and events they didn’t fully understand; and to do so is human nature. Many times these stories developed into cults or religions, but later understanding uncovered the truth in what was told.

Our characters in their present time seem to have a lot transpiring around them. They recently opened a vault, which started a clock ticking down to Lore’s destruction, and took a trip to the future to chase down Makkisar. Also somewhere in present Lore, ten Avatar’s wait to be revealed including one called Hope, whose Avatar we should already know. We’ve been charged with the task of finding a relic for Truth (a crystal), but we don’t know where it is. And, the full part some characters have to play is still unknown, including Nightbane, Epheel, Edward, Eternal, the fisherman, and probably others.

Hints of present time Lore are given to us through a variety of filters to us (the players) in our present time. Remember that the filters are meant to convolute the hints to provide challenge and fun. These include Kaliope, the White Rabbit, Maxwell, the portal, and the Messenger. Moreover in our present time, Truth and Lies are computer constructs as part of the game, so these filters have referred to them as such and will continue to do so. Our task is to figure out what is currently happening and what will happen so that we may prepare our characters to benefit the most from whatever event. For example, it would be of great benefit for our characters to be logged in when the clock finally expires so that vast amounts of experience, gold, and tokens, can be acquired. Plus, the whole chase of the truth provides some entertainment.

This leaves the much-maligned Future War. It seems that no one liked the results of this war, because they mistakenly thought it was a climax instead of what it was. Did it occur to anyone that the main purpose of going to the future was to release Truth from his avatar—Makkisar? Makkisar was in Lore’s present time with the other seven Avatars, but evil misled him into the future. In order to prepare for the arrival of the Devourer/Omega, our characters had to go to the future and release him. Of secondary note, Truth revealed through Anna that the clans of Paxia are connected to the eight faceless via the revelation of the Aerodu airship crashing. This reinforces the idea that the eight faceless and the eight elemental lords from the origins story are the same, since one of the cults (or clans) houses themselves inside their lord’s (alien's) airship. Lastly, a member of the Cor Demi was there to suggest to our characters that not everything is “magic” and “mystery”, thus opening the door for the possibility of aliens. Some of Cor Demi's actions also suggest that it opposes Truth and tries to hinder his release. I highly doubt any of these characters will have further impact on the rest of this storyline, and Anna’s only purpose seems to be communicating with Truth while he was embodied in Makkisar.

So, where does this leave us? What is happening? I believe the world of Lore is about to be tested again. The first time, told in the origins story, resulted in failure. Either Hope was not released or the human inhabitants of Lore (the Drakel survived) were too primitive to protect themselves or both. As a result, everything was wiped out except the Isle and the Drakel. A vault and clock were then placed on the Isle to be started when humans were ready to be tested again, which our characters so expertly started. Now, Omega is on his way to administer the test so we must prepare our characters. The eight faceless in different colored robes seem to be guides for our characters to lead them to unlocking their inner spirit—Hope. Only by doing this shall they pass the test and survive. The first step is finding this relic (crystal) that Truth wants. However, we’ve been provided two different images of “faceless”. The second shows an army of cloaked figures with three leaders—the trinity or 755 or triquetra—standing in front. I’m guessing they want our characters to fail for whatever reason. One possible reason could be that the two images of "faceless" represent two different alien races, the Annunaki and the Cor Demi, which are at war. These green-cloaked figures, Cor Demi, seem to be trying everything to stop either characters or players (via Nova) from discovering how to pass the test. However, the Annunaki want us to pass so that we may aid them in the war.

So, from my perspective that’s how I see it. Now, we hang on for the ride.




Lord Barrius -> RE: Clues V (9/30/2006 23:40:27)

Nova knows everything? Now we're talking about TV Documentaries? I think this has literally gone into the realm of the utterly insane.




Azerkail -> RE: Clues V (9/30/2006 23:42:26)

NOVA is an organization that Maxwell works for. Lisa, Dan/The Messenger's girlfriend, says he was sick, but he's better now. He's staying at NOVA.

At first, I said NOVA was evil, but now... well, I'm not sure, believers. There's something rotten in the state of Illinois, where NOVA is located, apparently.




Richie Ritz -> RE: Clues V (9/30/2006 23:43:12)

okay just tell me this...if i get the right anser whatever it is...willl maxwell appear and say good job richie or something along those lines

I mean what has happpened in the past and what is the point of this




Dudalicous -> RE: Clues V (9/30/2006 23:43:32)

another clue man this is confusin i wish i was a nerd




MegaSlaya -> RE: Clues V (9/30/2006 23:44:04)

115262511

What does it mean?




Azerkail -> RE: Clues V (9/30/2006 23:44:35)

You don't have to be a nerd to understand this. Just think, that's all.

Bolded is actual words by Maxwell or TTE, underlined are translations of Maxwell.

Here's a conversation logged at 1925 hours, Pacific Standard Time. Please thank Crynsos for logging this.

* Maxwell has joined #755
<Rimblade> Can I join AVON?
<Fayt> or change it
<fulCanX> NOVA... I will join you
<Fayt> ...
<Azerkail> Hello... maxwell?
<Maxx> hello Maxwell
<fulCanX> Maxwell...
<Fayt> maxxwell?
<Rimblade> Bang, Bang Maxwell's silver hammer came down, upon our heads, doot do doo do...
<fulCanX> Is he really...
<Azerkail> M-axe-will, lol.
<fulCanX> Maxwell?
<Fayt> can i join nova please!!!!
<Azerkail> Whoa, Rimblade. That's an allusion to the death of a pope. Or a song.
<fulCanX> fayt
<Azerkail> Don't join NOVA.
<Fayt> ?
<Azerkail> It's evil!
<fulCanX> You lack the faith of NOVA
<Azerkail> It's the reason Messenger DIED.
<Fayt> but ur not in it...
<Azerkail> The Network killed him.
<Maxx> I find your lack of faith. . .disturbing
<Maxwell> yeht era lla ereh
<Azerkail> Here all are they
<Fayt> their here!!!!!!!!
<Azerkail> They are all here.
<Fayt> they are all here
<Azerkail> Great.
<Rimblade> t'nera yeht oN
<Azerkail> No they aren't.
<fulCanX> i tnaw ot nioj AVON
<Azerkail> Oh, lol.
<Fayt> no they arent?
<Azerkail> You don't want to join NOVA, I'm serious.
<Maxwell> I ma diarfa I tog flesym otni gnihtemos nehw I etorw eht yrots
<fulCanX> I lliw od gnihtyna rof eht thaif
<Azerkail> I am afraid I got myself into something when I wrote the story.
<Fayt> be serious guys
<Azerkail> OMG he's got the network in him!
<Maxwell> I od ton wonk tahw ot od I ma diarfa enoyreve dnuora em si gnieb dellik esuaceb fo em
<Azerkail> I do not know what to do I am afraid everyone around me is bieng killed because of me
<fulCanX> Kill me!
<Azerkail> Yeah, the network is killing us.
<Rimblade> Good thing I don't live near him :P
<Fayt> ...
<fulCanX> Kill me for NOVA!!!!!!
<JTR5353> The power of Christ compels you!
<Azerkail> Well, not us, but you know what I mean.
<Maxx> lol
<Azerkail> Log this please
<Maxwell> Nad tsol sih htiaf esaelp pleh em eh si eht ylno eno taht nac ediug uoy ot eht Hturt
* Goofy has joined #755
<Crynsos|Working> Max is really odd today...
<Fayt> omg
* F180 has joined #755
<Azerkail> Truth the to you guide can that one only the is he me help please faith his lost dan
<Fayt> maxwell is here
<fulCanX> Let the Network inside of me!!!!!!!
<Maxwell> fi uoy od gnihton I ma diarfa ew lliw lla eid
<Rimblade> Whois says that Maxwell's name is NOVA
<Azerkail> Don't be stupid, the Network kills.
<F180> his name is not nova
* TheThirdEye has joined #755

-
<F180> its his organazation
<Azerkail> If you do nothing I am afraid we will all die
<Azerkail> OMG 3rd eye
<Crynsos|Working> ah, right...
<Maxx> Look to the east!!!
<Maxwell> LLIK AVON
<Fayt> ...
<Azerkail> KILL NOVA
* Maxwell has quit IRC (Vanished: _)
<Fayt> kill nova!!!!
<Azerkail> He's been taking by the network.
<fulCanX> Nooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!
<F180> there is no third eye it means we should look hard
<Azerkail> Taken, I'm sorry.
<Fayt> kill nova!
<fulCanX> NOVA is perfect
<Crynsos|Working> ...
<F180> we have no third eye
<Fayt> screw nova then
<Ralfy> why am i still in here?
<fulCanX> NOVA is power...
* Ralfy has left #755
<Azerkail> There's a third eye in this room.
<F180> it would be cool then
<Rimblade> Maxwell is clearly unsatisifed with his recent avon purchases.
<fulCanX> NOVA IS SUPREME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<F180> though*
<Azerkail> I like Avon, Rimblade.
<Azerkail> But not NOVA, its a bad car.
<Azerkail> It's a Chevy.
<TheThirdEye> use me and look to the east
<F180> ok we dont even know what nova is
<Azerkail> We know that third eye.
<Crynsos|Working> Nova is ultimate...
* Durroth has joined #755
<Fayt> ..
<Maxx> how??
<Azerkail> NOVA is deadly, don't join it!
<Fayt> use the third eye
<JTR5353> ?imeD-roC ekil cniklat ouy era yhW
* Rimblade thinks everyone here has had too much caffine
<Azerkail> WHY are you talking like cor demi
<fulCanX> NOVA...
* Maxx uses TheThirdEye to look to the east.
<fulCanX> I WILL DIE FOR YOU
<Fayt> use thethirdeye?
<F180> are you the REAL rimblade from the fourms?
<Durroth> yes he is
<Rimblade> Yeeees? Why?
<Azerkail> Listen to me. Nova is evil. Nova killed messanger. Nova is going to kill any human that gets too close.
<F180> like the DF one?
<Azerkail> You people are asking for death when you ask for NOVA.
<TheThirdEye> it will take more than just the avatar to destroy what is coming...
<Fayt> nova is a band of evil
<fulCanX> NOVA, NOVA, NOVA is ultimate. I will die for NOVA....
<Azerkail> What is coming, Third?
<Durroth> and I'm the real durroth who never does anything but still keeps his job and if anyone complains to him about a bug again
will kill that person slowly and painfully
<F180> fayt how can you know that
<Azerkail> Shh! Let the third eye speak!
<Fayt> it killed maxwell
* Xarymandias has joined #755
<JTR5353> TTE, you have yet to show any proof that you are not an imposter. Evidence, please?
<Azerkail> Maxwell isn't dead yet.
<Fayt> or i assume
<fulCanX> Maxwell was already dead.
<Azerkail> The Network's toying with him.
<fulCanX> NOVA awakened him
<JTR5353> Oh, hey Xary.
<Maxx> What else do we need?
<F180> maxwell is NOT dead....hey is that the REAL clan leader?
<Xarymandias> Hiya
<Fayt> im pretty sure nova is evil
<JTR5353> F
<fulCanX> NOVA is the good way to travel
<Maxx> Valor Point and Aegis?
<JTR5353> 180, he's the former clan head.
* Rimblade thinks you are ALL hopped up on SOMETHING
<JTR5353> Stupid enter button.
<F180> foumer?
<Fayt> i liked ur moglified xary
<TheThirdEye> I have seen the fate of this world...only the avatar and **** can destroy what is coming
<Xarymandias> It's not mine...
<F180> how is he not it anymore?
<Fayt> 4 words
<Xarymandias> Moglified is makde by Lord Ouranos.
<Azerkail> Hey, no cursing Third. =(
<JTR5353> And me!
<Fayt> whoopsy
<Crynsos|Working> hello xary...
<F180> wait a second back on topic...
<Fayt> i get mixed up
<Xarymandias> Hi Crynsos.
<Azerkail> But what is coming?
<JTR5353> Well, I only did a little.
<Fayt> then i like ur comics
<Crynsos|Working> It gets only worse...
<JTR5353> Though it doesn't stop me from bragging.
<Xarymandias> Thanks.
<fulCanX> The Network... Why does it reject me!?
<Azerkail> Hey, back on topic people, we've got a Third eye here.
<JTR5353> What of my comics?
<fulCanX> Am I not worthy of NOVA?
<F180> THIRD EYE YAY!
<JTR5353> I demand undeserved attention!
<Fayt> stop typing ppl
<Goofy> Topic is nonsense as is Truth and all his ramblings.
<TheThirdEye> curse I did not...I am not allowed to reveal what can destroy..."it" that...you must figure out on your own
<F180> you deseverd it your the leader (:
<Crynsos|Working> What is the meaning of NOVA? How can Maxwell have joined it?
<Azerkail> Right...
<Crynsos|Working> The big questions...
<Azerkail> Okay, so what about NOVA, do you know anything?
<Maxx> Can we find what can destroy it?
<F180> YAY for crynsos
<fulCanX> Why Maxwell? WHY NOT ME!?
* Crynsos|Working is now known as Crynsos
<Fayt> ...
<Goofy> Topic is nonsense as is Truth and all his ramblings.
<Durroth> Mirror Mirror on the wall, I'm too sexy for my shirt, too sexy for my shirt so sexy it Huuuuurts
<Xarymandias> Is it possible that this is just a distraction and might not even be an in0game thing?
<Azerkail> I'm going to kill you if you keep wanting the Network. >=P
<Goofy> Topic is nonsense as is Truth and all his ramblings.
<Maxx> No, Nova has taken control of Goofy
<JTR5353> Of course it's not ingame.
<F180> it is
<TheThirdEye> NOVA I know nothing of...what can destroy "it" can not be found...yet
<F180> its all ingame soon
<Crynsos> If this would be an official channel, it would be great...
<Durroth> We are borg, it will be assimilated
<fulCanX> The Network... I need the Network... I NEED NOVA!!!!
<Azerkail> Is it in LORE? Or is it in reality?
<F180> both
<Durroth> resistance is futile
<Fayt> ...
* MegaSlaya has joined #755
<Maxx> Is it in the land of Lore?
<Azerkail> F180, I'd rather hear it from the horse's mouth, so to speak.
<Durroth> we will assimilate "it" and we shall be complete
<Goofy> Topic is nonsense as is Truth and all his ramblings.
<Goofy> Topic is nonsense as is Truth and all his ramblings.
<Goofy> Topic is nonsense as is Truth and all his ramblings.
<Goofy> Topic is nonsense as is Truth and all his ramblings.
<Goofy> Topic is nonsense as is Truth and all his ramblings.
<Goofy> Topic is nonsense as is Truth and all his ramblings.
<Goofy> Topic is nonsense as is Truth and all his ramblings.
<Goofy> Topic is nonsense as is Truth and all his ramblings.
<Xarymandias> I know it isn'y in-game, but what if it's just something to keep us busy?
<Goofy> Topic is nonsense as is Truth and all his ramblings.
<Goofy> Topic is nonsense as is Truth and all his ramblings.
<Goofy> Topic is nonsense as is Truth and all his ramblings.
<Goofy> Topic is nonsense as is Truth and all his ramblings.
<Goofy> Topic is nonsense as is Truth and all his ramblings.
<Goofy> Topic is nonsense as is Truth and all his ramblings.
<Goofy> Topic is nonsense as is Truth and all his ramblings.
* Goofy has left #755
<F180> dont spam plese
<Azerkail> FTW.
<F180> good
<MegaSlaya> Wow.
<F180> he left lol
<JTR5353> ...You have no chance of survival. Make your time!
<Fayt> is goofy mad?
<Azerkail> Goofy's an Op, right?
<MegaSlaya> HAHAHA!
<Crynsos> Goofy is obsessed...
<Maxx> Wow, never thought I'd see Goofy spam
<Crynsos> but not here
<Azerkail> Yeah...
<F180> yes we all are THE MESANGER WAS EATEN
<F180> THEY ATE HIM!!!
<Fayt> what u say?
<F180> his soul
<TheThirdEye> I must leave now...remember...you must find that which cannot be found before you can save this world...
<Maxx> Is it in the land of Lore?
<Azerkail> SHH! Let the third eye speak.
<Durroth> I've seen things I've seen them with my eyes, I've seen things, they're often in disguise like carrots handbags cheese
<F180> thats why he said he haits us
<Azerkail> Damn...
* TheThirdEye has quit IRC (Distracted: AQStats Web Client_)

Time at the end was 1940 (7:40 PM Pacific Standard Time)




furgetit -> RE: Clues V (9/30/2006 23:46:00)

to see how samrt we are and to figure what will happen before they release for all of us i cant figure oout the clues but maybe some one else can




Midnight Nightmare -> RE: Clues V (9/30/2006 23:49:14)

grrrr i hate clues and truth and 755 stuff just TALK ENGLISH[:@]




Crynsos -> RE: Clues V (9/30/2006 23:49:25)

If the Portal doesn't work for anyone: http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/4382/theportalel2.png




Xarymandias -> RE: Clues V (9/30/2006 23:57:17)

quote:

<TheThirdEye> use me and look to the east

Paxia? Maybe?




Azerkail -> RE: Clues V (9/30/2006 23:58:31)

Just got a PM from Maxwell himself. I don't want to release the contents, unless he says ok.

True believers, we've got ourselves a life saving organization here. (Got this from the conversation with Lisa)

Synopsis:
quote:

Welcome friends, if you have found this then you must be seeking the truth. We all struggle with daily life and the stress it gives us. Life in general, is full of pain. NOVA can help you ease your pain and open your mind into a world full of happiness. Remember, NOVA cares for your soul, even if you do not. The first step in everlasting happiness, is NOVA.

Their logo:
NOVA with a triquetra for a O.

Namaste, and Peace be with you.




gastria -> RE: Clues V (10/1/2006 0:01:53)

Truth, Lies, NOVA... all this is making me sleepy. And perfect timing too! I have to go, see you (kind of) tomorrow! Good luck destroying yourselves figuring it out!




MegaSlaya -> RE: Clues V (10/1/2006 0:04:09)

TTE was taken by NOVA.




Azerkail -> RE: Clues V (10/1/2006 0:05:48)

Believers, new news.

TheThirdEye is none other than Dan, our dearly departed friend. He's been taken by forces we do not know yet. He was under the protection of NOVA, but now... I can't say.

Of course, that's an assumption, but either way, TTE has been attacked. Time is 9:05 PM Pacific Standard Time.

Peace be with you.




Atlas -> RE: Clues V (10/1/2006 0:07:32)

TheThirdEye is nothing more than a hoax. Dan is perfectly fine with Lisa at NOVA.




Azerkail -> RE: Clues V (10/1/2006 0:09:43)

Speaking of NOVA, believers...
quote:


NOVA would like all of their members support in our revolution onto the internet. Thank you, and peace be with you.

- Lisa Smith Proud Member of NOVA
Taken from a blurb on NOVA's "my space" site.

Peace be with us indeed. Pax vobiscum. An old Christian phrase, commonly used as a goodbye in Churches.

The game is now... unlike what I said before, afoot. =P

Peace be with you.

EDIT: Wait a second. I thought Dan had a wife. Named Sasha? Was that part of his delusions?




InfiniteObserver -> RE: Clues V (10/1/2006 0:11:49)

I just realised something after reading this last clues thread. There is something evil in Illinios,...and i live in Illinios.




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