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10/4/2010 21:34:32   
stealthwings
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 Sorry, I meant would not work if it stopped effects.

Myracyrina has that as a default boost, like the arthurian shieldbashes +20 defense.

So if it stopped effects it would not work.
DF MQ  Post #: 401
10/4/2010 21:35:31   
Glais
Member

It cancels and stops.
Or let me put it this way, it would set the effect to 0 and stop it.
DF MQ  Post #: 402
10/4/2010 22:14:34   
stealthwings
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 Effects are the things you see in status, there are already things which will wipe those. Myracyrina has a passive buff, which cannot be wiped by anything yet.
DF MQ  Post #: 403
10/4/2010 22:31:24   
Glais
Member

Passive buff....wait what?
I'm not sure I know what those are...

On a side...err actually more on topic note, I hope they never release another preview, it keeps leading to disappointment...
And well, really hoping for no more damage mechs.
DF MQ  Post #: 404
10/4/2010 22:38:07   
UltimaKomoto
Member

glaisaurus: Passive meaning it works behind the scenes, never going away on it's own.
It's always there.

And yes, the whole preview thing seems to be working against the monthly mecha now...
Also, I just want something different than damage...>_<
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 405
10/4/2010 22:41:53   
Glais
Member

So Myri's innate buff would be an example?
if so, that's the whole point of the freeze.

EDIT:Oh wait, you mean the YOU ARE DOOMED thing...Myri doesn't have that which is kinda odd, so long as you have the crystal, and could HIT her, you could win.

< Message edited by glaisaurus_x -- 10/4/2010 22:42:44 >
DF MQ  Post #: 406
10/4/2010 23:21:34   
UltimaKomoto
Member

I don't know...I think I did see a "Non Vampire Hunter! You Are Doomed!" pop-up
Of course, if you're not using a Vampire hunter, you really don't have a chance in the first place. And Clown's Abduction is your only literal exception.
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 407
10/4/2010 23:23:03   
Glais
Member

Hence the whole point of the freezy mech.
DF MQ  Post #: 408
10/4/2010 23:26:00   
UltimaKomoto
Member

Eh, I don't know. It won't stop a nerf on yourself. and You Are Doomed is always applied, regardless of hit or miss.
But it'll at least give you a better shot.
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 409
10/4/2010 23:27:12   
Glais
Member

From what I remember, Myracirina doesn't apply You are Doomed unless you don't have the shard.
I'll go test again to be sure but I think she kills you through defenses and pure strength.
DF MQ  Post #: 410
10/4/2010 23:37:31   
UltimaKomoto
Member

glaisaurus: Remember that the requirement for the You Are Doomed special to go off is not having a Vampire Hunter mech equipped...
I'd look, but I'm doing the fianl cutscene of Division By Zero...
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 411
10/4/2010 23:43:26   
Glais
Member

Indeed, I remember.

Ok, I just checked, all her YOU ARE DOOMED does is well...nothing actually.
It didn't nerf me or decrease my BtH.

< Message edited by glaisaurus_x -- 10/4/2010 23:46:06 >
DF MQ  Post #: 412
10/5/2010 16:28:47   
stealthwings
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 She still has a lot of boost, bonus, and defense.

And, that is all passive, meaning freezy would not work.

The only way of doing it is with the eagle or the clown, or if they decide to make something else with one of their specials.

< Message edited by stealthwings -- 10/5/2010 16:30:42 >
DF MQ  Post #: 413
10/6/2010 1:51:30   
Glais
Member

But that's the entire point of the freezing.
She automatically starts out with enormous boosts.
The idea to win is that the Body cancels defense and then you stun lock her.
Right now yes, those are the only ways to win, this is just an idea I had for a mech that could potentially be used to beat her.
DF MQ  Post #: 414
10/6/2010 2:18:26   
UltimaKomoto
Member

...I still think that the You Are Doomed does something...
Probably would renew her incredible buffs, because I honestly can't see why they would put a useless effect there.
Then of course, if it renews that negated defense...*poof* there goes your idea...
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 415
10/6/2010 2:26:52   
Glais
Member

Well, from testing yesterday, her you are doomed did nothing, my BtH and Boost were all normal, only effect she did was drain some HP.
The idea of the freeze was for it to set her stat to 0 and not allow it to be raised for X turns.
Otherwise...yeah she kills you.
DF MQ  Post #: 416
10/6/2010 2:31:36   
UltimaKomoto
Member

You Are Doomed can do other things than nerf you. Akana's gave her a pretty sizable Boost and Bonus buff.
Could be the same thing with Myra, except her stats are already way too high in the first place, nothing happens.
I still say buy the darned Vampire Hunter, given the nature of the last quest...

*COUGH*
Anyhow...I'm seriously hoping it isn't another "rawrtwoturnkillyou" mech next time... ,_,
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 417
10/6/2010 3:15:00   
Glais
Member

Oh yeah I know, the likeliness of a mech being able to kill Myri is....very...very low...
This was just a random idea I had that I wanted to throw out there.

Yeah, no more damage please, I think I've had all the damage mechs I need e_e
DF MQ  Post #: 418
10/6/2010 10:52:31   
Hellsoarer
Member

Next SCMM will be awesome
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 419
10/6/2010 15:14:02   
stealthwings
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 Next SCMM will fail
DF MQ  Post #: 420
10/6/2010 17:52:10   
master mix
Member

@above

probably, unless it is uber on purpose.
AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 421
10/6/2010 19:09:00   
EinhanderX01
Member

As much as I'd love another Warbear or Mohawk (except it's ridiculous Body animation), I'd much rather have a new Parts Destruction or Defensive mech.

Of the current "Specialties", which I have listed below, the most lacking are: DoT Frenzy, Defensive, Perma-Buff/Nerf, and Part Destruction. We don't need another Skysplitter, nor yet another average mech of the "Wild Frenzy"* class.

Defensive - AC and Aegis
Straight Offensive - Warbear/Cosmic Talon
Offense over Time - Viking/Falcon/Master Blaster/Nemesis/Automorph
Wild Frenzy - Mohawk/Morehawk/Bladestorm/Blademaster/Strider
Part Destruction - BC Mech
DoT Frenzy - Reaper
Perma-Buff/Nerf - Psychic Wing
So Ridiculously Balanced It's Really an NSC Mech - Skysplitter

If you noticed, early "Wild Frenzy"* mechs had powerful specials, though no real focus, but allowed for customization to capitalize on one or two of their weapons' specials. The later ones don't have anything really notable to capitalize on that a Rare or even some non-Rare equipment (or Mechs) could do better.

*My term for a mech that has a variety of specials but no actual focus, but could be customized so that it excels in one or two specific strategies. Like the Strider. Changing the Arms to ones that add more damage and changing the Head to an instant Buffer like the NYWarhead makes the mech a damage dealer when combined with the increasing damage of the Shoulders and the Body attack. Or in the reverse, adding Nerfing Shoulders to complement the Head's and the Arms' Nerfing specials.
Post #: 422
10/6/2010 20:13:31   
lazarblast
Banned


 I want a part destruction mech.
Really badly.

EDIT:How about something good?
If it's just good I'd be happy.


< Message edited by lazarblast -- 10/6/2010 20:45:02 >
Post #: 423
10/6/2010 20:44:15   
EinhanderX01
Member

The Nemesis would've been perfect for a new Part Destruction mech.

Esp. if you consider it's seeming homage/parody of Evangelion Unit 01 (for those that have seen Evangelion).

The Head could've had a special that increased the Default weapons' chances of disabling/destroying a specific part, similar to the Reaper's Head increasing the power of all Default weapons' DoTs. The Arms and Shoudlers each could have disabled/destroyed the same side arm or shoulder of the enemy (FA destroys FA, FS destroys FS, etc), while the Body was a guaranteed Disabling of the opponent's Body weapon.
Post #: 424
10/6/2010 20:48:33   
lazarblast
Banned


 ^^
Thats powerful and a fantastic idea.
/But you know what would be better?
Another damage mech with weak specials.
That would be awsome.

/Sarcasm
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