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2/12/2011 15:04:12   
Wraith
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 ^LOL, I beat your level 30 when I was 29, not to mention you had Desert Marine and I was using Necro Mage!

But I still beat you with a support build even when I was at 30 and you were at 32. Anything to say now?

And NPCs are essential, who do you battle when your at 27? Level 32s? That seems ridiculous. At 27, 28, and 29, you battle NPCs or your record is SCREWED.
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2/12/2011 15:09:33   
  Digital X

Beep Beep! ArchKnight AQ / ED


 Anything to say? Of course not, i'm not too sure i fully understand what you're getting at, let alone the battle.
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2/12/2011 15:13:53   
Polandor
Member

Of course when you have bad gear, and are around lv 25-30.

You might want to do npc to level up (or do 2-2), it is fine, but why does NPC have to count has 1-1 wins ?

Npc will always give xp and credit.

Nobody ask to remove NPC fight, only not to show the win in 1-1.

< Message edited by Polandor -- 2/12/2011 15:47:51 >
Post #: 28
2/12/2011 18:31:32   
edwardvulture
Member

I think the loses shouldn't be on any records, there should only be daily advantages so players will always have room to improve.
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2/12/2011 18:58:46   
The Game
Pegasus Overlord


 Alright. The arguing ends now. If you disagree with what someone says, please at least make the effort to respond in a way that does not land you in trouble. I have removed the offending posts because nonconstructive back-and-forth bring nothing to a discussion. Please, quit it or warnings will be administered.
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2/22/2011 8:29:58   
OhMyGoshness
Member

I agree.. i dont think its right to count npc win in the 1-1 battle.. And dont give me excuses that they need skill to kill.. It's not like you battle Big Tuna to inflate your win%.. Any person with a brain would rather battle an easier npc if his/her purpose was to boost his/her win%..
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2/22/2011 9:21:25   
Karajan
Member
 

 I disagree; with the limit of 15 npcs per hour, it really can not affect the daily leaderboards. Also, npcs have more hp than players and hence take longer to kill and aren't exactly all in one spot; so I don't really see the problem. If these shouldn't count in 1 vs. 1 wins because the player always wins, then by all means when a lvl 32 varium player beats a lvl 27-30 non varium it shouldn't count either?
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2/22/2011 11:00:11   
Lord GaGa
Member

You have to really suck to loose to a normal non-achivement npc though...
And yeah... I agree with primal.
people who npc fail to much to do normal fights on the whole,
and if they say they dont then tell them to proove it by stopping.
But they wont because they know that their gonna fail.

< Message edited by Lord GaGa -- 2/22/2011 11:03:26 >
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2/22/2011 11:14:19   
IsaiahtheMage
Member

@Lord Gaga Now your just flaming us.NO.That is not why its because once we reach lvl 27-30 we have no choice or we keep getting lvl 32 varium beast and lose.Now your telling me I fail at normal battles you see how childish you sound with that post?I completely disagree I lke using NPCs alot.Its easy wins and I get XP and credits without running into varium beast.

< Message edited by IsaiahtheMage -- 2/22/2011 12:27:55 >
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2/22/2011 11:25:31   
Sparticus
Member

I NPC. I make builds so other players can defeat NPCs.

I find it offensive to categorize a player as something lesser then yourself for playing this game in a manner they enjoy.

Just to prove your point is wrong, I NPC. I was once the all time 1v1 leader. I was capable of beating just about anyone.
Try to call me an epic fail. Until I see your name anywhere doing anything worth mentioning I'd say its the other way around.

~SP~

1v1 players are just as skilled as 2v2 players, the skill sets are just different. If you don't understand that it's because you lack basic understanding of this game.

1v1 players do not get 90% of their wins from NPCs, since you make up information it's difficult to take your position seriously.

It was my understanding that they indeed could on a day to day basis see how many wins a player gets from NPCs and from real players. I think it was made part of the in game moderators tools. While they can't go back in time and separate out old wins, you could get a good estimate of daily wins from NPCs vs players and post it just for FYI sake to end this nonsense argument. Perhaps just do it for one day and see how it turns out(if they haven't already done it)

Oh wait, I forgot. How do you propose we handle the ever so brave F5 players? Those brave, fearless 1v1 and 2v2 players who battle with such great skill and have such wonderful records because of their lightning fast use of the F5 key?

Yeah, worrying about your record is about as important as worrying about your armors colors. Might look good but it don't kill nothing.
Well we all await what wonderful, intelligent and thought provoking idea will be posted in answer to this?

< Message edited by Sparticus -- 2/22/2011 11:46:09 >
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2/22/2011 11:37:32   
Lord GaGa
Member

This is just my opinion, feel free to cuss
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2/22/2011 11:45:51   
Shadow Serpent
Member

@Lord Gaga: So, your telling me BlueBird and Fay Bee and all the other leader board don't NPC? OK, we all have our opinions. Just please don't flame us.
But i agree with you IsaiahtheMage. I always NPC with my 28. 1vs1 is always 30-32 and 2vs2 it always seems like it's 28 and 32 vs 32 and 32. NPC's kinda save the ones that can't find a decent build.
Post #: 37
2/22/2011 12:03:37   
Lord GaGa
Member

Yeah, I say thats a fair point. But I think it should be used as a help rather than a win purpose.
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2/22/2011 12:23:11   
Shadow Serpent
Member

It's just 15 fights per hour, not unlimited. Plus some 27/28/29 can even lose due to crits and heals. I lost to Marauder Hulk cus he did a crit on me.
Post #: 39
2/22/2011 12:31:19   
Deimos...
Member

Well, I personally have trouble just beating bio lvl 28. He just does too much damage to me and I need to heal like 2 times and defense like 3 times... So I normally farm 3 other npcs when I go for 1v1 but, if its just a normal day, then its too boring lolz... At first the trash talk system was fun but I think they spam too much...
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2/22/2011 12:34:51   
Giras Wolfe
Member

NPCs are the way to meet faction win req's when feeling antisocial or currently underpowered. There's no fair way to remove them from our current win %'s so if we removed them now it would be unfair to new players who's %s will be more realistic. They're fine and handy and completely unremovable. Sorry, but it can't be changed and I think it shouldn't be.
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2/22/2011 23:45:05   
eragonshadeslayer67
Member

they shouldn't show up lol

An NPC WIN IS NOT A WIN

NPC fighting is A MASK, I mean a person actually NPCed their way up to lv 32 and got to near-emperor rank with 100% NPCs (and I MEAN 100%) and the person only has 300 losses or so ROFL, it's just too lame IMO for someone to NPC their whole "gaming" time, I mean games r supposed to be FUN not where u mindlessly spam buttons for wins
and that person was NOT a good player at all

I think that NPCs should only give gold and xp and NOT count as a win, then everyone'd stop worrying about their win loss rates and actually enjoy this game, because quite frankly NPCs ruined this game
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2/23/2011 0:30:45   
PhoenixGladiator
Member

Let's not assume that everyone NPCs either. I would say 98% of my wins are from human 1v1. I only NPC for achievements. I know a lot of other players like this as well.
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