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4/19/2011 21:17:57   
King FrostLich
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@above: Good idea e.e.
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4/19/2011 23:01:13   
edwardvulture
Member

But profit comes first. As said by nightwraith this is first a business then a game, but I want something to even up the playing field.
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 52
4/20/2011 0:58:09   
Luna_moonraider
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A non varium server would not solve the problem of non varium being underpowered. i for see problems of a non var server i will list them down below.

1) how do u classify a non var player. is it a player without varium or a player which did not even buy any varium or is it players with varium weps.
2) Players who got thier varium from doing quizes and Ae extras would suffer because they have varium and are forced to go into a mixed servers which are full of varium players with uber weps reason being because the var players cant enter the non var server because they have varium. basically these group of people are forced to buy more varium if this idea is made because they are gonna be forced to play wif uber weps varium people.
3) varium people would complain because the did buy varium to gain an advantage not lose and lose and lose to other varium players.
4) non varium can easily win 2v2/1v1 daily because they play in non var server.this is unfair because most of the 2v2/1v1 medal holders worked hard to get the medal. so basically it would be harder to get the medal if u become a varium player. u would not want that because that is like chasing away customers.people buy varium in order to gain an advantage not a disadvantage.
5)Every1 starting ed would be a non var because it does not cost money and u win easy and Ed would close down because no new players would buy varium. Only the current varium playrs would buy varium because the need it in order to survive. the current varium players will eventually stop buying because who want to spend so much for just a game.
6) This game is not like any ther game it is pvp based and there is no membership or anything. Varium is the only way a player can gain certain avantage by making a all non varium server they are basically removing the advantage.

Ok those are the reasons why a non var server should not be made. so basically i do not support this idea even if i m just a normal non var player. i would rather make a all varium server which make sthe varium players feel special. But still making diffrent servers for non vars is bad idea and wont solve any problems.

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4/20/2011 5:45:42   
iDG
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How many non varium players have puchased varium to compete?
All current varium users did, = quite a lot.

Battleon is a company, not a charity organisation.
Epic  Post #: 54
4/20/2011 6:53:51   
Basicball
Member

quote:

How many non varium players have puchased varium to compete?
All current varium users did, = quite a lot.

Battleon is a company, not a charity organisation.


they used the AExtras actually :p

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AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 55
4/20/2011 8:07:58   
iDG
Member

@basicball:

Battleon is getting paid by the companies which you do the AExtra's for so they win either way.
Epic  Post #: 56
4/20/2011 8:37:39   
Basicball
Member

yes, but the people don't pay for it ;)
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 57
4/20/2011 18:16:06   
Banir
Member

For the people saying that it is hard to beat a Varium player as a non-varium are completely wrong.

It isn't hard as much as it is doing your best and wishing for a critical. Only with extreme luck can help someone with 60 stat modifiers beat someone with 100. But then Support IS luck. And a lot of those 100 points probably went into support. So even the probability of getting lucky is killed.

But let's say that you're smart. Let's say you're a non-varium mercenary and piled all of your stats into support. Criticals are easier to hit and you have nice Aux and Artillery damage. Even then, you'd still lose. Because one crit isn't going to kill your opponent. He/she will probably heal and attack you with a gun or a robot which, due to what's left over from the 100 stats from earlier, does much more than that of your sub-par gun and the 3 damage strike that is Mjonlir.

See the problem here?

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Epic  Post #: 58
4/20/2011 19:55:16   
bloodchain
Member

@Banir
A lot of people fail to realize what you just said (or are probably ignoring half of it). And if you are not a mercenary then you are probably at a greater disadvantage
Post #: 59
4/20/2011 19:57:25   
IzzyluvsU
Banned


 You are garbage at the game if you think non variums can't win. I win 90% of the time with my non varium mage. It's called strategy, just think a little bit more, and you will win.
Post #: 60
4/20/2011 20:02:16   
Wen Su the Tank
Member

i am a mercanary credit only user atm called soul train, say hi if you see me but still i do find the game abit tricky but with a good game stratagy you can even blow 33 varium users outta the way
AQ DF  Post #: 61
4/20/2011 20:12:44   
Light Stridr
Member

@Wen Su:
It's quite easy to kill varium users with a non-varium merc as it is currently has access to the most OP'd builds ingame, which means that blowing them out of the water is easy if you know what you are doing.

@IzzyLuvs:
If you can do that, then all I can say is well done. But I want to ask:
Do you have a bot?

@Bloodchain:
What Banir said makes perfect sense, aside from skipping over the issues witht the other 2 classes.
AQW Epic  Post #: 62
4/20/2011 20:17:46   
edwardvulture
Member

I'm not comparing nonvarium users to lower level nonvarium users. I'm comparing level cap nonvarium users to level cap varium losers. Its almost impossible to win if the varium player isn't an idiot. What if you get 90% if you know thats from NPCs and "easy players". You just got Lucky. And su, You got nothing on those 125 heal loop mages.
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 63
4/20/2011 23:41:03   
GrenadeLauncher
Member

It's not COMPLETELY impossible to beat varium players but ... try beating a 5 focus build varium user. You'll have my respect.

I came across This when reading through the forum and guess what? Varium users have 30+ stats more than non-variums. With the aux and gun enhancement coming in this Friday....

Well, good luck to all Non-Varium players. We'll need it.
Epic  Post #: 64
4/21/2011 6:45:31   
kakilleon2
Member

Well... we need JariTheMighty build, b9000 or zakalin .
Epic  Post #: 65
4/21/2011 6:57:42   
Lord GaGa
Member

Why do you f2p's play so much and not get varium?
AQ AQW Epic  Post #: 66
4/21/2011 7:15:54   
Larcell
Member

The 30-40% decrease in Credit Enhancements is a step in the right direction. (Should be like 60-70% decrease)

I think having Armor Ranges will help too; however, there still needs to be non-varium armors that nearly mirror varium armors. It's not that Non-variums are underpowered, they just need a lot more variety to choose from.

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Epic  Post #: 67
4/24/2011 1:59:18   
edwardvulture
Member

Now the varium players are getting fully enhanced stuff while nonvarium can barely enhance 3 spots on each weapon. The gap just got wider.
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 68
4/24/2011 2:06:04   
vinchuan
Member
 

 Yeah after the aux/gun enchancement update,
Ive gone back to runescape as its unplayable anymore
Post #: 69
4/24/2011 2:46:35   
frosty123
Member
 

 It is pretty hard to beat a varium merc. Most of them are tanks and are hard to weaken. Then the bot comes in and kills us all. I am a non- var and I still win. All i want is to have fun and get to chill out with my online firends( and get osme kool weps. I can still beat variums and true the lower lvs are starting to be more powerful. Theyshould change the -1 for each lv. it should be -2 or -3 for each lv.
Post #: 70
4/24/2011 6:24:17   
King FrostLich
Member

Apparently, if you have the right power and strategy....non varium mages are more powerful than non varium mercs.
Epic  Post #: 71
4/24/2011 11:24:34   
skeletondude
Member

above ^
yah tht is very true
AQW Epic  Post #: 72
4/24/2011 11:50:21   
od
Member

Above above^ so very true, haven't lost to a nonvar merc in quite a while
Epic  Post #: 73
4/24/2011 16:01:35   
edwardvulture
Member

That wasn't the case before this update.
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 74
4/24/2011 17:11:06   
Giras Wolfe
Member

It would be foolishness to deny that nonvariums are completely useless. They're even getting beat up by level 28s now. The devs seem unwilling to do anything about it so my, most likely to be censored, advice to all nonvariums is pay or leave. And we're all aware how much this game costs now.
AQ AQW Epic  Post #: 75
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