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4/23/2011 15:30:30   
Shadronica
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Charfade is very sweet but I do not think its fair that they (Titan and Nightwraith) sent her in to do the damage control.

IF Titan or Nightwraith were to actually make a statement with an apology as to why they were nerfing our stats at the same time selling us more stats with a reason as to why they are doing it then perhaps I might listen.

Other than that it is just plain outright rude to do what they have done to us. Diminishing our stats so they can sell us more is utterly ridiculous.

Yes I am sure that in hindsight they should have left a gap so it didn't look like such a blatant case of "let me get my hands in your purse or wallet or the fantastic plastic". Not to mention releasing another limited rare armor!

Doing this limited rares absolutely gets up the noses of most players as it is aggressive marketing at it greediest.

How about you game developers work on getting this game running right then a constant flow of money will happen without the need to make such aggressive marketing ploys that even the youngest child can see through.

P.S. Perhaps Artix himself should come here to explain this aggressive marketing in EpicDuel then.

< Message edited by Shadronica -- 4/23/2011 15:32:42 >
DF AQW Epic  Post #: 76
4/23/2011 15:31:00   
Cinderella
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 xxmirxx- no, Nightwraith and Titan have graduated from college. Nightwraith has a Bachelors and Titan has a Masters.

@Shadronica- both diminishing returns and further weapons enhancements were planned for a while, diminishing returns being introduced first prevents further item enhancement from becoming OPed.

< Message edited by Cinderella -- 4/23/2011 15:33:14 >
Post #: 77
4/23/2011 15:38:32   
jonalstik
Member

Guys you can't go back to beta just get used to delta v.... all of you want something new.. they can't do anything ..
you aksed for bunny armors and they did... they try their best.. it's not easy to get a new release every week.
Yet i believe that nerfing skills wasn't a very good idea.. but it gives us the chance to make new builds and think about them..



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Epic  Post #: 78
4/23/2011 15:57:02   
Light Stridr
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@Jonalstick:
They asked for bunny armours, yes.
They asked for it to be Limited rare, no.
They asked for it to kill off Founder armour, also no.
Get what I'm saying here?
Also, weekly updates are too fast, it seemed like a good idea at the time, but if this is what they are going to release...
Nerfing skills was a general minor thing, but the new weapon enhancements mean that you can just revert back to your old build.

< Message edited by Light Stridr -- 4/23/2011 15:59:35 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 79
4/23/2011 15:58:38   
jonalstik
Member

Theyy are limited rare... and foun der armor is not the best now ..
Epic  Post #: 80
4/23/2011 16:03:18   
xxmirxx
Member
 

 your speak as varium player only. like I said since level 33 came out it has been going down hill ever since. alot of people been seeing this so not just me. They just need to do few changes like make healing at 3 again give all players chance to buy robot not buy with varium. if we had that no one here would be here complaining. But instead they nerf all class to worst. Now non varium Bh are even worst now and mages are worst class. So lets thank dev's for not let mages have healing loop. I don't mean have over 150 hp. thats noy healing loop when made to 4 cool downs. Like angel says they don't care about mages. Took away creatively away from all of us in game. I no longer play game want to come back.
AQ Epic  Post #: 81
4/23/2011 16:04:10   
Light Stridr
Member

quote:

Theyy are limited rare... and foun der armor is not the best now ..

I just said they didn't ask for it to be limited rare (in fact, 99% of us were opposed to the idea), and founder was supposed to be one of the strongest armours. (Lack of player acknowledgment)

@below:
most of us quit some time ago, but never bothered mentioning it.
I, for one, stay just to see if it is worth coming back (which it isn't right now)


< Message edited by Light Stridr -- 4/23/2011 16:17:34 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 82
4/23/2011 16:07:02   
jonalstik
Member

Today i have heard a lot of guys to say " I quit " .. Why do you give up so easy??
Epic  Post #: 83
4/23/2011 16:17:39   
xxmirxx
Member
 

 Try over 2 years since I been on epic. I have loss patience we don't give up so easy most of us been play Ed 2 years. Your quite new to game so I can see why you think we give up to easy.
AQ Epic  Post #: 84
4/23/2011 16:27:35   
Deboise
Member

I love you Khannibal!!

You addressed every Issue and are 100% correct on every part..
I read your entire Post twice just to make sure i felt the whole impact...honestly makes me so sad, makes me feel like i have been cheated into spending so much money on this game..

You have my Full and utter Support.

More interested in making money than anything else it seems...could happen to anyone..

Deboise
DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 85
4/23/2011 16:37:21   
xxmirxx
Member
 

 aboe

Its your choice on use your money from day 1.
AQ Epic  Post #: 86
4/23/2011 16:39:39   
Xendran
Member

Diminishing returns, i love (the idea at least, not necessarily the way it was implemented)
The new enhancements, i hate.
The ridiculous costs, ihate.
AQ DF Epic  Post #: 87
4/23/2011 16:47:53   
Deboise
Member

quote:

Other than that it is just plain outright rude to do what they have done to us. Diminishing our stats so they can sell us more is utterly ridiculous.


yes..update one...diminishing stats..(take stats from players)

...update two....make players pay to get those stats back with weapon enhancements.....?...

that is exactly how it seemed to have happened to me..pretty simple English stated there..in fact my wife (not into games) noticed before me....


hmm idk...

Deboise
DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 88
4/23/2011 16:54:12   
ND Mallet
Legendary AK!!!


 Look at it this way. Which is better, nerfed stats then getting more enhancements or having 50+ stat boosts then nerfing stats? With this release you can easily get 50+ and if they did Diminishing Returns after the enhancements then you would have support mercs with 150 support having 37 base aux damage with unbelievable Artillery and Field Medic.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 89
4/23/2011 18:21:13   
uria9
Member

it was very much worth reading everything and i agree with everything . i only have one thing to say
"quote (from a founder but i forgot his name) : i remember this game was surrounded by quality players not quantity" meaning people don't need that much skill to win because of no originality in builds,it's all copy and paste
Post #: 90
4/23/2011 18:47:55   
Liz Vicious
Member
 

 A lovely distinct concise and eloquent thread. Which, has generated considered and thoughtful posts. A credit to the concept of a forum. Well done.
Post #: 91
4/23/2011 19:00:03   
The Joker X
Member

@Shadronica
I agree with you. Why is it that Charfade has to reply to this post and not one of the main Devs? But then again as I remember Ben had said Titan only replies to posts that talk about where to spend their varium. I would really love it if either Titan or NightWraith reads Ben's post and comments on each point that he had written...but we can all dream can't we?

AQW Epic  Post #: 92
4/23/2011 19:06:19   
xxmirxx
Member
 

 Who is ben
AQ Epic  Post #: 93
4/23/2011 20:27:33   
Lectrix
Member

Rock bottom? Yeah, kinda (and by "kinda", I mean DEFINITELY)

Solution? Remove costs on all Enhancements. Throw in a few more Weapons for Non-Variums. Focus on making EVERYONE happy.

Problem solved.

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AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 94
4/23/2011 20:31:03   
xxmirxx
Member
 

 ABOVE ME NOT EVEN CLOSE TO MAKE US HAPPY
AQ Epic  Post #: 95
4/23/2011 20:41:20   
Light Stridr
Member

quote:

ABOVE ME NOT EVEN CLOSE TO MAKE US HAPPY

Chill, mir. It's not the end of the world.

But ED is fast approaching rock bottom. Assuming there is one anyway.
AQW Epic  Post #: 96
4/23/2011 21:30:44   
Epic Pwnser
Member

Yes.

The only reason why is because of enhancements.

Enhancements have made everyone who wants to be competitive, waste a ton of money.

It's just too plain RIDCULOUSLY expensive. People are going to start quitting, people are complaining already, why don't you hear us and do something about it?

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Epic  Post #: 97
4/23/2011 22:28:36   
Larcell
Member

Hit rock bottom? Reminds me of my piggy-bank.

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Epic  Post #: 98
4/24/2011 1:11:16   
H4ll0w33n
Member

very good post you touched on all the things i had in mind.
Post #: 99
4/24/2011 7:14:55   
ultimateness
Member

I totally agree with everything (I read of :p) khannibal said.
I would like to emphasize that people who bought varium during beta like me, feel ripped off.
If I had bought those varium packs now I would be 2x better. I think epicduel weapons/armours should not get any more stat extras or damage/defense resistance than they are now.
Comparison: Energy Vendzooka vs. Neutron Blaster :Neutron Blaster does more damage and has good stats AND is almost 1000 varium less than Vendzooka. I used to have energy Vendzooka and it hurts that 1000varium was wasted on something that was about equal with a non varium aux.

< Message edited by ultimateness -- 4/24/2011 7:21:12 >

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