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1/2/2012 5:21:50   
infuturity
Member

quote:

If both hits miss, then you do a third hit. The third hit is Ice Magic, and deals 311.11% damage (which is 1.4*0.05/(0.15^2), for those of you interested).



Questions:

1) Is the total damage (132-264 with 760% stats) divided by 2 or by 3 for the first two hits?
2) Also, assuming both fire hits miss, is it 311.11% of the total 132-264, or 311.11% of the per-hit damage?
AQ  Post #: 151
1/2/2012 5:31:33   
  Ianthe
 formerly In Media Res

 

 1) /2 for the first two hits.
2) It's 311% of the total damage. (Of the damage I listed in the table)

Too busy, can't talk in complete sentences D:
AQ  Post #: 152
1/7/2012 17:46:34   
Sir Perfect Socks
Member

quote:

quote:

Level: 125
Power Level: 128
MP Level: 127
Price: N/A
Sellback: 6615 Z-Tokens for the first 48 hours then 3675 Z-Tokens
Location: Giftbox Spell XXVII - Z (2011)

Drone Strike Z (level 125) Should have a Power Level of 138 ^_^
Fixed thanks. ~Aces

< Message edited by BlackAces -- 1/7/2012 20:19:25 >
AQ  Post #: 153
1/7/2012 18:06:36   
Watashig
Member

quote:

Continuing from above:

The entire entry has the stats of Drone Strike 125 (not Z!).

Also, the mplevels for all those Drone Strike Zs and Giftbox Spells Z seem questionable to me. I'm not sure what the exact MPlevels are.
They are the same as the gold variants of that leve so the Drone Strike MPlevels were fine but the giftbox Z spell weren't. Fixed thanks. ~Aces

< Message edited by BlackAces -- 1/7/2012 20:38:34 >
Post #: 154
1/8/2012 0:20:08   
  Ianthe
 formerly In Media Res

 
quote:

Oops.

Correct MP Levels and costs (the MP Level part also affects the pet and armour) 
Level	33	62	105	125
PLvl	59	78	118	138
MP	52	74	114	134
				
Cost	190	273	451	553
Guess not thanks for the update IMR. ~Aces

< Message edited by BlackAces -- 1/8/2012 0:27:41 >
AQ  Post #: 155
1/8/2012 0:44:05   
Traveler
Helpful and Constructive!
quote:

One thing that I noticed some time ago, but always forget to mention here:

On the spells by element and level index, all the spells from the Summon Paladin series are listed under Light, when they should be under Summon guests.
Updated thanks. ~Aces

< Message edited by BlackAces -- 1/8/2012 4:45:06 >
AQ  Post #: 156
1/8/2012 0:47:14   
Xrai
Member

quote:

Weird, no one found out that the entries for Drone Strike and Drone Strike Z actually have error. They all didn't include the fully accurate-lean, +10 BtH with *85/95 damage modifier.
Fixed thanks surprised no one else caught it. ~Aces

< Message edited by BlackAces -- 1/8/2012 4:41:03 >
Post #: 157
1/8/2012 14:45:32   
Sir Cloud
Member

@ In Media Res, can you confirm the correct cost again for the Drone Strike Z versions? For example, the initial entries for the gift boxes had the Drone Strike Z (125) at 559 MP cost? Whereas the Drone Strike (135) is at 569 MP, the same it was for it's Gift Box entry. See original MP costs here for all Drone Strike Spells.
In short, did all Z versions get an additional MP cost reduction benefit after gift box opening (down another 6 MP to 553 for the 125Z)? Thanks for looking into this.



< Message edited by sir cloud -- 1/8/2012 15:06:22 >

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AQ  Post #: 158
1/8/2012 16:51:54   
Xrai
Member

@above: The entries for Drone Strike Z already adjusted the MP costs.
Post #: 159
1/8/2012 20:08:24   
  Ianthe
 formerly In Media Res

 

 The Z-Token giftbox spells were bugged - they were meant to have the MPLvl/MP costs that I said in the post right above yours, not the ones in the original giftbox post from a month ago. So we fixed the bug and reduced the costs.
AQ  Post #: 160
1/9/2012 0:16:24   
Sir Cloud
Member

@ IMR, thanks for the clarification about that bug from a month ago. Still fairly negligible of a difference between them.

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AQ  Post #: 161
1/10/2012 16:03:00   
Bobwin
Member

quote:

Given that the Drone Stroke has an accurate lean, can the entry appendix be modified to reflect this? i.e. move "Fully accurate: it gets +10 BTH and deals 85/95 damage." to an analysis section, and add "This has already been calculated into the appendix table." It also might help to clarify the statement: "Note the BRS has already been split in the appendix and the damage already calculated. Values are total for the whole spell" by adding "not per hit."

The reasons for this would be:
1. Values in the current appendix are not total for the whole spell, because they do not reflect the lean. It's a little confusing as-is.
2. It will be much more user friendly to show the actual damage/bth. If most people are like me, they want to easily see what damage Drone Strike does, not what a generic spell of that level does, plus instructions for how to calculate Drone Strike's damage placed elsewhere in the entry.

Adding the +10 bth and 85/95 BRS, the table would look like this: (Thanks, Watashig, for the help formatting. Behold, a table!) 

Level	5	10	15	20	25	30	35	40	45
Type	G	G	G	G	G	G	G	G	G
PLvl	15	19	23	27	32	36	41	45	50
									
MPLvl	12	16	21	25	30	34	39	43	48
MPCost	68	78	92	104	118	131	146	159	176
									
Base	13.421	15.211	17.895	20.579	24.158	26.842	31.316	34.000	38.474
Max	38.474	46.526	54.579	62.632	72.474	81.421	92.158	102.895	114.526
Stat	178.053	201.316	225.474	248.737	278.263	302.421	331.947	355.211	384.737
BtH	13	14	15	16	18	19	20	21	22
									
Buy	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A
Sell	198	272	396	545	767	1089	1509	2129	2970
									
									
									
									
									
Level	50	55	60	65	70	75	80	85	90
Type	G	G	G	G	G	G	G	G	G
PLvl	54	59	64	68	73	78	83	88	93
									
MPLvl	53	58	63	67	72	77	82	87	92
MPCost	194	212	230	245	265	285	305	327	348
									
Base	42.053	45.632	51.000	54.579	59.053	64.421	69.789	75.158	80.526
Max	124.368	138.684	151.211	162.842	178.053	193.263	208.474	224.579	241.579
Stat	408.000	437.526	467.053	491.211	520.737	550.263	579.789	609.316	638.842
BtH	23	24	26	27	28	29	30	32	33
									
Buy	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A
Sell	4158	5841	8168	11459	16062	22523	26903	30690	34997
									
									
									
									
									
									
Level	95	100	105	110	115	120	125	130	135
Type	G	G	G	G	G	G	G	G	G
PLvl	98	103	108	113	118	123	128	133	138
									
MPLvl	97	102	107	112	117	122	127	132	137
MPCost	371	394	417	441	466	491	516	543	569
									
Base	85.895	92.158	98.421	104.684	110.947	117.211	124.368	130.632	137.789
Max	259.474	276.474	294.368	313.158	331.947	352.526	372.211	393.684	414.263
Stat	668.368	697.895	727.421	756.947	786.474	816.000	845.526	875.053	904.579
BtH	34	35	37	38	39	40	42	43	44
									
Buy	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A
Sell	39921	45540	51926	59226	67542	77046	87863	100212	114296
I've split the entry to account for the 6 hits and left the +10 seperate from the actual numbers to avoid confusion. ~Aces

< Message edited by BlackAces -- 2/4/2012 9:06:36 >
AQ  Post #: 162
1/10/2012 23:55:18   
Watashig
Member

Put it in {code}{/code} to get the table to properly work (of course, with normal brackets).

That is, if you remembered to use tabspacing instead of normal spacing.

EDIT: Went and bolded a part that someone missed. Oh, and it seems that it's possible to just type in [code][/code] without forcing or breaking any formatting

< Message edited by Watashig -- 1/11/2012 0:58:49 >
Post #: 163
1/11/2012 0:30:57   
Bu Kek Siansu
Member
 

 Watashig: For using the code in this forum it should be [code][/code] instead of {code}{/code} :)

quote:

Summon Crystal Dragon series
Location: Fusion Dragons: Consequences

Crystal Dragon series
Location: Fusion Dragons: Consequences

  • For somehow I couldn't find the "Fusion Dragons: Consequences".
    I was looking for the Summon Crystal Dragon and found him in the 15: Fusion Dragons 1

  • So, to avoid confusion the location should be changed to:
    Location: Travel Map » Dragonspine » Dragonspine Mountains » 15: Fusion Dragons 1 (Quest: Fusion Dragons: Consequences)

    • Actually the location is 100% accurate since that is indeed the name of the quest. However is was the quest entry itself that needed a location update because if you want to know where to get the reward, you need accurate information to know where to go. Thank you! ~B


    < Message edited by Balu -- 1/18/2012 13:20:05 >
    Post #: 164
    2/1/2012 15:40:28   
    infuturity
    Member

    quote:

    For Drone Strike:

    quote:

    Note the BRS has already been split in the appendix and the damage already calculated. Values are total for the whole spell.


    This seems contradictory and confusing. If the BRS has already been split and damage already calculated, then how can the values possibly also be for the entirety of the spell?
    I think its supposed to say the values have NOT been split.

    And, incidentally the Damage portion of the entry should be Base/6-Max/6 with Stat/6% Stats each, should it not?
    I have fixed it to split the damage among 6 hits. ~Aces

    < Message edited by BlackAces -- 2/4/2012 9:07:19 >
    AQ  Post #: 165
    2/2/2012 16:05:40   
    Dragoon23
    Legendary AK!!!
    quote:

    Robear titles:
    Robear Ramage Chi
    Robear Ramage Gamma
    Robear Ramage Psi
    Robear Ramage Beta
    Robear Ramage Alpha
    Robear Ramage Omega

    Robear spell description:
    Summon forth the ferocious RoBear to assault your foe with the gatling energy cannons! The unrelenting attack deals powerful Energy damage, and may leave your foe with Energy Burns to continue bringing the pain after the initial attack!


    Got it. Thank you. ~B

    < Message edited by Balu -- 2/9/2012 9:20:39 >
    Post #: 166
    2/2/2012 16:55:10   
    Bu Kek Siansu
    Member
     
    quote:

    RoBear Rampage Chi

    Also see RoBear Rampage (Gamma, Psi, Beta, Alpha, Omega)

    Level: 20
    Power Level: 49
    MP Level: 41
    Price: 800 Z-Tokens ; 560 Z-Tokens (discounted)
    Sellback: 720 Z-Tokens ; 504 Z-Tokens (discounted) for the first 48 hours, then 400 Z-Tokens ; 280 Z-Tokens (discounted)
    Location: Limited Time Items Shop!

    Element: Energy
    Cost: 153 MP

    Hits: 6
    Type: Magic
    Element: Energy
    Damage: 7-21 plus 70.5% Stats each
    BTH: +12 plus Stats each

    EFFECT
    Each hit that deals damage makes a roll for a 1 turn Energy Burn* at 5/6 of normal power, the monster gets a -20 bonus to its save**:
      Level: PowLvl vs MonsterLevel
      Major: YourINT vs MonsterEND
      Minor: YourLUK vs MonsterLUK
    Energy monsters are immune to this effect***.

    *Your enemy is left with energy crackling over them!
    **Your enemy grounds out the crackling Energy from the lasers!
    ***Your enemy is not subject to Energy burns!

    DESCRIPTION
    Summon forth the ferocious RoBear to assault your foe with the gatling energy cannons! The unrelenting attack deals powerful Energy damage, and may leave your foe with Energy Burns to continue bringing the pain after the initial attack!



    Numbers thanks to Kamui. Image and description thanks to Dragoon23. Basic stats thanks to Dragoon23 and AVA. Write-up thanks to AVA.


    Analysis

    This spell deals 65% damage to pay for the Burn.





    RoBear Rampage Gamma

    Also see RoBear Rampage (Chi, Psi, Beta, Alpha, Omega)

    Level: 45
    Power Level: 50
    MP Level: 48
    Price: 5,850 Gold ; 4,095 Gold (discounted)
    Sellback: 2,925 Gold ; 2,047 Gold (discounted)
    Location: Limited Time Items Shop!

    Element: Energy
    Cost: 176 MP

    Hits: 6
    Type: Magic
    Element: Energy
    Damage: 7-21 plus 71.67% Stats each
    BTH: +12 plus Stats each

    EFFECT
    Each hit that deals damage makes a roll for a 1 turn Energy Burn* at 5/6 of normal power, the monster gets a -20 bonus to its save**:
      Level: PowLvl vs MonsterLevel
      Major: YourINT vs MonsterEND
      Minor: YourLUK vs MonsterLUK
    Energy monsters are immune to this effect***.

    *Your enemy is left with energy crackling over them!
    **Your enemy grounds out the crackling Energy from the lasers!
    ***Your enemy is not subject to Energy burns!

    DESCRIPTION
    Summon forth the ferocious RoBear to assault your foe with the gatling energy cannons! The unrelenting attack deals powerful Energy damage, and may leave your foe with Energy Burns to continue bringing the pain after the initial attack!



    Numbers thanks to Kamui. Image and description thanks to Dragoon23. Basic stats thanks to Dragoon23 and AVA. Write-up thanks to AVA.

    Analysis

    This spell deals 65% damage to pay for the Burn.




    RoBear Rampage Psi

    Also see RoBear Rampage (Chi, Gamma, Beta, Alpha, Omega)

    Level: 65
    Power Level: 77
    MP Level: 74
    Price: 3,400 Z-Tokens ; 2,380 Z-Tokens (discounted)
    Sellback: 3,060 Z-Tokens ; 2,142 Z-Tokens (discounted) for the first 48 hours, then 1,700 Z-Tokens ; 1,190 Z-Tokens (discounted)
    Location: Limited Time Items Shop!

    Element: Energy
    Cost: 273 MP

    Hits: 6
    Type: Magic
    Element: Energy
    Damage: 12-35 plus 101.33% Stats each
    BTH: +19 plus Stats each

    EFFECT
    Each hit that deals damage makes a roll for a 1 turn Energy Burn* at 5/6 of normal power, the monster gets a -20 bonus to its save**:
      Level: PowLvl vs MonsterLevel
      Major: YourINT vs MonsterEND
      Minor: YourLUK vs MonsterLUK
    Energy monsters are immune to this effect***.

    *Your enemy is left with energy crackling over them!
    **Your enemy grounds out the crackling Energy from the lasers!
    ***Your enemy is not subject to Energy burns!

    DESCRIPTION
    Summon forth the ferocious RoBear to assault your foe with the gatling energy cannons! The unrelenting attack deals powerful Energy damage, and may leave your foe with Energy Burns to continue bringing the pain after the initial attack!



    Numbers thanks to Kamui. Image and description thanks to Dragoon23. Basic stats thanks to Dragoon23 and AVA. Write-up thanks to AVA.


    Analysis

    This spell deals 65% damage to pay for the Burn.




    RoBear Rampage Beta

    Also see RoBear Rampage (Chi, Gamma, Psi, Alpha, Omega)

    Level: 90
    Power Level: 93
    MP Level: 92
    Price: 122,700 Gold ; 85,890 Gold (discounted)
    Sellback: 61,350 Gold ; 42,945 Gold (discounted)
    Location: Limited Time Items Shop!

    Element: Energy
    Cost: 348 MP

    Hits: 6
    Type: Magic
    Element: Energy
    Damage: 15-45 plus 119% Stats each
    BTH: +23 plus Stats each

    EFFECT
    Each hit that deals damage makes a roll for a 1 turn Energy Burn* at 5/6 of normal power, the monster gets a -20 bonus to its save**:
      Level: PowLvl vs MonsterLevel
      Major: YourINT vs MonsterEND
      Minor: YourLUK vs MonsterLUK
    Energy monsters are immune to this effect***.

    *Your enemy is left with energy crackling over them!
    **Your enemy grounds out the crackling Energy from the lasers!
    ***Your enemy is not subject to Energy burns!

    DESCRIPTION
    Summon forth the ferocious RoBear to assault your foe with the gatling energy cannons! The unrelenting attack deals powerful Energy damage, and may leave your foe with Energy Burns to continue bringing the pain after the initial attack!



    Numbers thanks to Kamui. Image and description thanks to Dragoon23. Basic stats thanks to Dragoon23 and AVA. Write-up thanks to AVA.


    Analysis

    This spell deals 65% damage to pay for the Burn.





    RoBear Rampage Alpha

    Also see RoBear Rampage (Chi, Gamma, Psi, Beta, Omega)

    Level: 110
    Power Level: 113
    MP Level: 112
    Price: 321,300 Gold ; 224,910 Gold (discounted)
    Sellback: 160,650 Gold ; 112,455 Gold (discounted)
    Location: Limited Time Items Shop!

    Element: Energy
    Cost: 441 MP

    Hits: 6
    Type: Magic
    Element: Energy
    Damage: 20-58 plus 141% Stats each
    BTH: +28 plus Stats each

    EFFECT
    Each hit that deals damage makes a roll for a 1 turn Energy Burn* at 5/6 of normal power, the monster gets a -20 bonus to its save**:
      Level: PowLvl vs MonsterLevel
      Major: YourINT vs MonsterEND
      Minor: YourLUK vs MonsterLUK
    Energy monsters are immune to this effect***.

    *Your enemy is left with energy crackling over them!
    **Your enemy grounds out the crackling Energy from the lasers!
    ***Your enemy is not subject to Energy burns!

    DESCRIPTION
    Summon forth the ferocious RoBear to assault your foe with the gatling energy cannons! The unrelenting attack deals powerful Energy damage, and may leave your foe with Energy Burns to continue bringing the pain after the initial attack!



    Numbers thanks to Kamui. Image and description thanks to Dragoon23. Basic stats thanks to Dragoon23 and AVA. Write-up thanks to AVA.


    Analysis

    This spell deals 65% damage to pay for the Burn.




    RoBear Rampage Omega

    Also see RoBear Rampage (Chi, Gamma, Psi, Beta, Alpha)

    Level: 130
    Power Level: 140
    MP Level: 137
    Price: 11,050 Z-Tokens ; 7,735 Z-Tokens (discounted)
    Sellback: 9,945 Z-Tokens ; 6,961 Z-Tokens (discounted) for the first 48 hours, then 5,525 Z-Tokens ; 3,867 Z-Tokens (discounted)
    Location: Limited Time Items Shop!

    Element: Energy
    Cost: 569 MP

    Hits: 6
    Type: Magic
    Element: Energy
    Damage: 26-79 plus 170.67% Stats each
    BTH: +35 plus Stats each

    EFFECT
    Each hit that deals damage makes a roll for a 1 turn Energy Burn* at 5/6 of normal power, the monster gets a -20 bonus to its save**:
      Level: PowLvl vs MonsterLevel
      Major: YourINT vs MonsterEND
      Minor: YourLUK vs MonsterLUK
    Energy monsters are immune to this effect***.

    *Your enemy is left with energy crackling over them!
    **Your enemy grounds out the crackling Energy from the lasers!
    ***Your enemy is not subject to Energy burns!

    DESCRIPTION
    Summon forth the ferocious RoBear to assault your foe with the gatling energy cannons! The unrelenting attack deals powerful Energy damage, and may leave your foe with Energy Burns to continue bringing the pain after the initial attack!



    Numbers thanks to Kamui. Image and description thanks to Dragoon23. Basic stats thanks to Dragoon23 and AVA. Write-up thanks to AVA.


    Analysis

    This spell deals 65% damage to pay for the Burn.


    Done

    Got everything. Thank you! ~B

    < Message edited by Balu -- 2/9/2012 9:21:11 >
    Post #: 167
    2/2/2012 17:32:46   
    UltraGuy
    Member

    		I have a feeling the new Z-Token spells are GZ. Their price and sell-back are divided by (10/7).
    AQ DF Epic  Post #: 168
    2/2/2012 18:46:21   
    Dragoon23
    Legendary AK!!!
    quote:

    RoBear goes Rawr

    http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/Dragoon23/AdventureQuest/0dabb3dd.jpg

    Inflicts Energy Burn that lasts for 5 rounds*.
    *Your enemy is left with energy crackling over them!

    Also, only RoBear Rampage Chi has RoBear with a capital B. The rest are lower case Robear. Proof

    Got everything. Thank you. ~B

    < Message edited by Balu -- 2/12/2012 3:33:17 >
    Post #: 169
    2/2/2012 19:18:31   
      Kamui
     Hashire sori yo Kaze no you ni!
    quote:

    RoBear Rampage: Divides damage among six hits. Each hit that deals damage makes a roll for a 1 turn Energy Burn* at 5/6 of normal power using Player INT/LUK versus Monster END/LUK (Majour/Minor stats) for the roll, monster gets -20 to its save**. Energy monsters are immune to this effect***. The spell is 65% normal power power to pay for the Burn.

    *Your enemy is left with energy crackling over them!
    **You (sic) enemy grounds out the crackling Energy from the lasers!
    ***You (sic) enemy is not subject to Energy burns! 

    Level	20	45	65	90	110	130
Type	Z	G	Z	G	G	Z
PLvl	49	50	77	93	113	140
MPLvl	41	48	74	92	112	137
Base	42	43	71	90	117	158
Rand	83	85	141	180	233	314
Stat	423	430	608	714	846	1024
BtH	12	12	19	23	28	35
MPCost	153	176	273	348	441	569
Price	800	5850	3400	122700	321300	11050
Sell	Z	2925	Z	61350	160650	Z
DPrice	560	4095	2380	85890	224910	7735
DSell	Z	2047	Z	42945	112455	Z

    Got the info. Thank you! ~B

    < Message edited by Balu -- 2/12/2012 3:33:49 >
    AQ DF MQ  Post #: 170
    2/3/2012 5:02:01   
    Bu Kek Siansu
    Member
     
    quote:

    Also, only RoBear Rampage Chi has RoBear with a capital B.


    Every version has now RoBear with a capital B, that makes the line shorter.
    An xample:

    RoBear Rampage Chi

    Also see RoBear Rampage (Gamma, Psi, Beta, Alpha, Omega)

    < Message edited by AVA -- 2/3/2012 5:05:25 >
    Post #: 171
    2/6/2012 17:59:30   
      Ianthe
     formerly In Media Res

     

    		 Draconic Blast

    As Dragonbane Blast, but:
    #Versus dragons, since the monster's Void resistance is usually 200%, the spell does half damage.
    #The major save is YourINT, not the scaled formula. The Level is the weapon's power level, not your level (although, the two are usually equal, so never mind)
    #The monster gets +0 to its save (if it's a dragon) or +20 (if it's a drakel/dragonkin)
    #The poison lasts for one round, and its level is always equal to the Draconic Blast's Power Level. The poison's power is equal to 2 (versus dragons) or 1 (versus anything else).
    AQ  Post #: 172
    2/8/2012 5:56:51   
    infuturity
    Member

    quote:

    Each hit that deals damage makes a roll for a 1 turn Energy Burn* at 5/6 of normal power


    Two questions:

    1) Burn and Energy Burn do the same damage, IIRC, right?
    2) By "5/6 of normal power," do you mean...
    a) The total damage of the burn is multiplied by 5/6 (So for the 110 version, instead of dealing 11-75, it would be adjusted to 9.17-62.5)
    b) The actual "Power" portion of the equation is adjusted by 5/6 of normal (Which would be 2*(5/6)=1.67)

    I assume its supposed the actual DAMAGE output is adjusted by 5/6, not the power portion of the equation. For future info subs that include status conditions like burn/energy burn, its probabaly a good idea to specifically differentiate between the two, since the word "power" is now officially part of the equation itself.
    AQ  Post #: 173
    2/8/2012 20:37:12   
      Ianthe
     formerly In Media Res

     

    		 1) Right.
    2) Both of those options look the same to me? I guess (b) works?

    The «Power» variable in the status entry should be 5/3.


    < Message edited by Balu -- 2/9/2012 9:27:16 >
    AQ  Post #: 174
    2/10/2012 17:31:09   
    oooblivious
    Member
     
    quote:

    Is the

    "Analysis

    This spell deals 65% damage to pay for the Burn."

    already included in the listed base/random/stat damage for the encyclopedia article?

    Yes. ~B

    < Message edited by Balu -- 2/12/2012 3:31:56 >
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