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4/27/2011 22:00:14   
Death
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@ voidance: It probably better to delete your posts instead and then maybe I'll follow along so it doesnt look like i'm arguing with myself.
With the exception of my first post since I see nothing wrong with it.Edit: There doesnt seem to be a delete button for this type of forums -_-
Ok then...


On topic: The founder's rewards are great and rewarding.
Though, i wish i had became a founder when i had the chance. >_>

< Message edited by Death -- 4/27/2011 22:02:01 >
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 51
4/27/2011 22:02:49   
xxmirxx
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quote:

You have to consider that while founders did support the game early on, the devs can not give out something overwhelming to founders without alienating the other 95% of the playerbase. I think a Varium gift was pretty appropriate. It's a nice bonus, but it's not a permanent bonus and it's also something that anyone else can buy if they wanted. The big gripe over buffing Founder Armor again is that new players would be constantly eclipsed by founders with the best armor.


by average non founders have pay way more money in game then founders. They have least spend 500 dollars or more in game. should they get 1000 varium yes I think so. but question will be how we know spend alot of money. I know this topic isn't as popular to talk about. But like say non founders are treat like trash. I know many of my friends have spend so much money on this game. But instead of ask for varium they just want nicer armor. For you founders that are ask for buffs and more varium .
AQ Epic  Post #: 52
4/27/2011 22:10:47   
*Nova*
Member

quote:

by average non founders have pay way more money in game then founders.

Even though that may be. It is still important and appreciating that they chose to support a game that they weren't even sure it was going to make it out of tsting.
So, I'm guessing that's why Founders are always treated better than most paying customers or they should be.

It's like giving money to a poor guy, and it helps that guy a lot more because they are broke and such but it will not be very effective if you gave money to an extremely rich guy.
I'm not saying the ED team is rich, I'm just setting an example.
DF MQ  Post #: 53
4/27/2011 22:14:16   
Polandor
Member

Yes founder that ask for a free buff of their armor are very greedy.

Think of the gamma player who spend many 100$ and really support the game, yea founders gave 35$ 2 year ago, you had incredible return for your 35$.


< Message edited by Polandor -- 4/27/2011 22:52:21 >
Post #: 54
4/27/2011 22:14:28   
Death
Member

"Its the first gift that's the hardest to repay"
That's my finally take on this topic since I already made a huge stain on it. -_-

Ps: And yes, those arent my words. I stole them out of book and didn't bother citing it.
but i find them true.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 55
4/27/2011 22:23:27   
bluefrog
Member

some founders are greedy and some arnt. i havnt been able to play epicduel for a few months so im not sure how usefull 1k varium is now. when i did play it would have been gone with 1 new weapon or less. so i can understand why founders might not see 1,000 varium as usefull. however its free so complaining just seems stupid.
Post #: 56
4/27/2011 23:09:23   
xxmirxx
Member
 

 I can see most of you agree what I am saying.
AQ Epic  Post #: 57
4/27/2011 23:11:13   
Luna_moonraider
Member

no they are not the devs are the greedy once 1000 var wth thats is barely enuf to fully enhance founder armor. and mind u i m no founder and i do not have a alt with founder armor. founder without te armor get a free boost in thier varium but 1000 varium will be used up in like 1 update.

< Message edited by Luna_moonraider -- 4/27/2011 23:13:20 >

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AQW Epic  Post #: 58
4/27/2011 23:20:00   
Deboise
Member

quote:

Is really fair for gamma players to be treated like second class


you make laugh...guess what...

founder came first....gamma came second.......

AKA...gamma second class (if it wasn't this way there would be no pride in being founder)

weird logic but still..

BTW i didn't want any varium....

IN FACT NONE OF US FOUNDERS DID>>>>> we wanted armor that wasn't going to become obsolete...


Deboise
DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 59
4/27/2011 23:35:55   
Luna_moonraider
Member

founder and elites supported the game in the early stages of this game. least the devs could do is make their armor usable and for the founder without the armor 1000 varium is just too little for them they did support the game. without them ed wont be anywhere. lets imagine no 1 wanted to buy the founder armor or no 1 wanted to upgrade during the period founder armor was made. Ed wont be here and u guys wont even have new weps to use now. SO IMO they certainly not greedy.
AQW Epic  Post #: 60
4/27/2011 23:54:19   
SCORPIOZZz
Member
 

 i myself have paid over 500$ (2 accs ) on this game and from this post (witch no one bothered to give a d*m about it ) you can see that i and the ppl living in my country are the only ones that should be gifted the 1k var for paying 70$ for the 50$ pack

< Message edited by SCORPIOZZz -- 4/27/2011 23:55:07 >
Epic  Post #: 61
4/28/2011 0:01:26   
xxmirxx
Member
 

 Deboise you have spend 150 dollars. And still ask for more that's true meaning of greed. I think your not getting picture word meaning second class means we are treat like trash and treat like its cause you guys reason why made so popular. But as I remember we had under 9000 online in day. The fact is founders pay less then non founders. You guys always want and want more free buffs. It seems you guys are jealous that finally non founders have something to be happy about.
AQ Epic  Post #: 62
4/28/2011 0:09:44   
Deboise
Member

quote:


Deboise you have spend 150 dollars. And still ask for more that's true meaning of greed. I think your not getting picture word meaning second class means we are treat like trash and treat like its cause you guys reason why made so popular. But as I remember we had under 9000 online in day. The fact is founders pay less then non founders. You guys always want and want more free buffs. It seems you guys are jealous that finally non founders have something to be happy about.


i actaully have three accounts..

2 founders that i purchased two 10k varium packs for each before the battleon points system was even in place..

and one non foudner that i have purchased 2 10k and 1 5k pack....

and that was all before the battleon point system....sence the system has been implemented i have spent 150 on that one account..correct

and a few 5k packages on the other accounts

so suck on that...

over over 375$ bro


Deboise

DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 63
4/28/2011 0:28:31   
xxmirxx
Member
 

 ok I am sorry Deboise. but please tell me were how is fair for founders to get upgraded and free varium. You think non founders have spend less then you founders. I get it we all just want nicer armors and save money instead of spend more. If thats your reason but please think way non founders feel way you guys get special treatment. When my friends have spend alot of money on this game. I do have alot of varium players as friends.
AQ Epic  Post #: 64
4/28/2011 0:33:00   
Bunshichi
Member

^

This isn't about who can spend the most money and therefore you deserve something for spending that type of money on this game. You spent that of your own free will nothing more was promised.
MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 65
4/28/2011 0:33:20   
PD
Member
 

 Just a side note: Remember that when we're talking about Founders, we're also talking about Founders who do not have founder armor like me, Giras, helloguy, Joker, .Superman. , charwelly, Master Volcon, and more.

Remember that just because you're a Founder, doesn't mean you have the Founder Armor. Anyways, as a Founder, I myself have never desired anything more than what I have now - I find that Greed is it's own punishment - The ill of Greed does not have someone punish you, but rather it is it's own punishment all in of itself.

An Example of this would be the Story of King Midas - His own greed for gold caused him to turn his own daughter into gold, then relinquished his powers after realizing what his greed had done to him.

You don't need to be a Founder to be Greedy - It's susceptible to anyone and everyone. It's really all in the mind of the person really.

Remember - It's not a class problem, not a varium problem, not a money problem, and not a power problem

It is a HUMAN Problem


< Message edited by PD -- 4/28/2011 0:37:12 >
Post #: 66
4/28/2011 0:39:20   
Deboise
Member

quote:

ok I am sorry Deboise. but please tell me were how is fair for founders to get upgraded and free varium. You think non founders have spend less then you founders. I get it we all just want nicer armors and save money instead of spend more. If thats your reason but please think way non founders feel way you guys get special treatment. When my friends have spend alot of money on this game. I do have alot of varium players as friends.


i apologize for my harsh comment as well..

I personally don't care anymore if my armor is the best...

I want the chance to keep my armor look because i'm proud of founder..but as the game goes on my armor becomes less and less powerful.. and i am always fighting wheither or not to buy new armor. (bunny, i sat for 15 min and watched it go to 0 cus i couldn't decide)

let me pay for bunny and get the bunnies exact stats.. (i don't care) i just want my look and an armor of consequence.

OH AND ABOUT THE 1000 varium..i think that's way unfair to everyone..to non founders its just kinda lame and mean, and to us founders we think its a unfitting buff, or thankyou or w/e you want to call it...

Giving us 1000 Varium didn't make either founders or non founders happy..so...stupid idea
DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 67
4/28/2011 0:41:11   
xxmirxx
Member
 

 above there considered non founders. I am talk about those who have founder armor wanting more like angels post she just made.
AQ Epic  Post #: 68
4/28/2011 0:41:55   
Polandor
Member

That would be great, have an option to wear founder armor for look only (a skin, like AQW), (no stats bonus, no res, no enhancement) when you use another armor.

And wear any armor under it for full bonus.

No imbalance, founder still have the most beautiful armor for ever...

So you guys keep the look for ever, and the armor never have to be buffed.

If you wear the armor alone, you have the full benefit of the founder armor
Post #: 69
4/28/2011 0:44:42   
Deboise
Member

^ love it..
DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 70
4/28/2011 0:56:26   
xxmirxx
Member
 

 I like idea just for looks. what if you guys pay for upgraded armor but down side that means everyone has that opinion.
AQ Epic  Post #: 71
4/28/2011 2:54:01   
semolino9
Member

I love the skin idea, founder for many is not just an armor, but a status symbol, so this idea would make it able for you to have the armor and be noticed as a founder, while also having the same stats as anyone else would. Not putting anyone else at a disadvantage. Also in saying that all varium non-founders spend more than founders, to me is a little offensive, how would you know how much anyone spends, (and i wouldnt exactly brag about spending hundreds upon hundreds of dollars on a flash game XD), but also without them, most likely there would be no game for anyone, and you say that founders are jealous of others that founders is now not the best, when you yourselves have simply forgotten about all the pages of founders armor slamming, saying it is way too OPed. The 1000 varium to me is a bit of a "here, now shut up about it" action on the devs part.
AQ DF Epic  Post #: 72
4/28/2011 3:05:07   
wario the great
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well if like all the other ae games they give founders like 1k every year ill be happy but if this is a one off then i think we should get something special and not all founders are greedy they just want something to show off other than armour

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AQW Epic  Post #: 73
4/28/2011 3:14:55   
xxmirxx
Member
 

 semolino9 I just have friends that are varium players. I listen to those who battle against that tell me how much they spend and I was Fay Beee friend as well shadist. I am speak on there behalf btw I don't mean Fay and shadist. I mean those who started later in beta time.
AQ Epic  Post #: 74
4/28/2011 3:15:14   
RKC
Member

So you guys are mad that founders armor is a level 25 and its getting a buff.

Hmmmm...... I have an idea, change the level requirement to level 32 and add +1 resistance.
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