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8/3/2011 15:11:24   
Ubear
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^ would it? it's a form of attacking that anyone can use, if a robot requires energy to use then shouldn't strike? xD
baaaaaaaad idea imo
AQ Epic  Post #: 51
8/3/2011 15:11:28   
altimatum
Member
 

 how is this reaction supposed to be different to any other nerf to any class?
there is always someone who will think it's wrong because it won't work in their favor, but you can't impress everyone.
Post #: 52
8/3/2011 15:11:54   
Sageofpeace
Member

So let me get this straight they are going to nerf robot, now this is yet another step closer to this game closing

so now gamma bot is useless and 5 FOCUS are going to be no longer of any use

I just hope that you actually tested this against strenght tactically mercenry with a delta maul,Stun Cannon,or boomstick, eggzooka,Founder armor or Telsa armor.

so now what build are people who hate strength build suppose to do?

Support Build 2vs2
Strength t Build 1vs1 Only one left
5 Focus Build 1vs1 or 2vs2 no longer available after the update

At least try to make the robot cool down 2 turn in the one who wasn't use and went to cooldown mode

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Post #: 53
8/3/2011 15:13:52   
DeathGuard
Member

Green: I mean 5 focus build plus gamma bot were nerf jus tlike heal looping build from TM
AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 54
8/3/2011 15:14:19   
goldslayer1
Member

@sage
i have to agree the kinda went over board with the 4 cooldown.
it should be like this.
use physical robot now, and the energy one gets 2 cooldown while physical is 4.
is the energy one 2 turns later and the physical one gets +2 cooldown (so physical is back to 4 cooldown and energy gets 4 cooldown aswell)
AQW Epic  Post #: 55
8/3/2011 15:15:10   
Stabilis
Member

quote:

^ would it? it's a form of attacking that anyone can use, if a robot requires energy to use then shouldn't strike? xD
baaaaaaaad idea imo


Its blockable and a powerful weapon, it would be a good compensation for players to not spam it as much as they like and as much as the target would prefer not to be hit by it?

quote:

Green: I mean 5 focus build plus gamma bot were nerf jus tlike heal looping build from TM


Oh, I see. Cooldowns and requirements and what not?

< Message edited by greenrain13 -- 8/3/2011 15:17:08 >
AQ Epic  Post #: 56
8/3/2011 15:16:09   
Sageofpeace
Member

^ i think you get my idea are they really testing the game (this update is going to be pretty risky)
Post #: 57
8/3/2011 15:16:38   
Ubear
Member

...what?
I'm alright the the bot nerf, the staff will stop people spamming it by making both bot attacks have a cooldown when you use one of them. Simple.
AQ Epic  Post #: 58
8/3/2011 15:18:48   
Ubear
Member

Yeah the game is still in testing phases and is not fully complete yet. Hence why we're in Delta. Next stage will probably be epsilon
AQ Epic  Post #: 59
8/3/2011 15:20:27   
Stabilis
Member

quote:

...what?
I'm alright the the bot nerf, the staff will stop people spamming it by making both bot attacks have a cooldown when you use one of them. Simple.


Then what is the point of adjusting your stats/skills to make the robot better if the rest of your weapons will lack potency? Can you visualize an effective robot build anymore? No. Robots are no longer wanted weapons and this will make the assault bot's special look nicer than the RARE gamma bot's two different attacks.
AQ Epic  Post #: 60
8/3/2011 15:22:36   
DeathGuard
Member

If you view it from other point of view, Assault bot is better, it has a 80% debuff and an energy attack, what you want more, this work got with strenght, support well with all builds but gamma doenst.
AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 61
8/3/2011 15:23:12   
Sageofpeace
Member

^ after a year i no longer consider a excuse such "we still Testing" Acceptable, indeed the next stage is going to be the 'Apocalypse' if it gets there
Post #: 62
8/3/2011 15:23:27   
Ubear
Member

What do you mean what is the point? I don't think the staff want us to base out stats around one attack type, they're fixing things one item at a time by the looks of it
AQ Epic  Post #: 63
8/3/2011 15:25:32   
Ubear
Member

perfection takes its time sir ;)
sure i'm guessing you're abit annoyed about the nerfs like most other people it affected but let's be honest, we did base out build around that incredibly strong robot.
AQ Epic  Post #: 64
8/3/2011 15:27:41   
altimatum
Member
 

 This'll feel like beta july... just before gamma bot, there were still bot builds in the assault bot with it's one attack and they seemed to manage fine.
Post #: 65
8/3/2011 15:28:31   
Sageofpeace
Member

@ and what do we WILL had to base after the "UPDATE" let me give you a HINT

it star with a S and Finish with a T
Post #: 66
8/3/2011 15:28:59   
Stabilis
Member

quote:

I don't think the staff want us to base out stats around one attack type


Well that's what you get when skills and stats can make your weapons stronger.

Robot has 2 attacks if gamma, energy and physical. There will be no freedom of choice when both attacks are cooling down and you need to attack again. Energy bot is looking quite dope with the stat debuffering since robot's attacks are LIMITED now.
AQ Epic  Post #: 67
8/3/2011 15:29:57   
Ubear
Member

Okay I'll be honest I just think you like moaning for the sake of moaning.
AQ Epic  Post #: 68
8/3/2011 15:31:39   
altimatum
Member
 

 There's really no weakness to 5 focus builds anyway.. just tank it out and use bot when you can, it's just that you can't spam bot attacks+aux damage without going for normal attack anymore.
Post #: 69
8/3/2011 15:32:07   
Ubear
Member

@Sageofpeace: No best build for a BH (which is me :3) would probably be a high DEX and high TEC build with the improved damage on multi shot and stun grenade, high TEC to use your 1 powerful bot skill and to make your smoke screen more useful, so yeah. CH would be good if there were energy weapons out there as strong as delta
AQ Epic  Post #: 70
8/3/2011 15:35:27   
Giras Wolfe
Member

What about tank builds?
AQ AQW Epic  Post #: 71
8/3/2011 15:35:37   
altimatum
Member
 

 support bh with emp and heal

ill also try to see how 5 focus' attack pattern is changed... we shouldn't have been able to spam aux-level damage+tanking capabilities without impunity in the first place anyway.
Post #: 72
8/3/2011 15:35:36   
voidance
Member

I'm quite fine with the nerf, you shouldn't be able to tank and spam raw power.


Edit
Hacks much? My post was posted a second before you but yours got posted before mine.


< Message edited by voidance -- 8/3/2011 15:38:08 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 73
8/3/2011 15:35:51   
Stabilis
Member

quote:

Okay I'll be honest I just think you like moaning for the sake of moaning.


Well looks like you gave up on our argument as I am now finished with you.

quote:

There's really no weakness to 5 focus builds anyway.. just tank it out and use bot when you can, it's just that you can't spam bot attacks+aux damage without going for normal attack anymore.


Very true and the normal attacks as you probably saw are weak compared to normal attacks of the higher strength and not as good as building rage as support. Good observation.
AQ Epic  Post #: 74
8/3/2011 15:36:05   
edwardvulture
Member

5 bonus and strength spammers are noobs. I can respect the strategic strength spammer, but that almost doesn't exist.
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 75
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