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8/31/2011 21:46:29   
Wiseman
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@gk365: Yes, in fact we have already started working on a standard for weapons, the standard covers Credit, Varium + Credit, Credit Seasonal, Varium + Credit Seasonal, and Promo items. (there are no credit only promo items)


As for the beta weapon subject, White Tiger already explained it pretty well, and as he said they where promised to be the best at that time, and for their level. They still are the best for their level, and even though they aren't the best anymore (in general) they are still good enough to use competitively. As I stated before the beta items will not be buffed again, unless it's for balance purposes and considering they are already overpowered for their level, I doubt that will happen either.

< Message edited by Wiseman -- 8/31/2011 21:47:49 >
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8/31/2011 21:58:28   
button33
Member

They could buff it to level 30 and add some requirements. Would that not work?
AQW Epic  Post #: 27
8/31/2011 22:13:27   
Wiseman
Member

^ I stated the problem with that in a previous post, some players who bought beta's may have temporally quit when they where lower level, and if they decide to return and their weapons where now useless to them...it would be a problem.

So that isn't an option either, sorry.

@Below: That just means a level 26 player could use a weapon that's far to overpowered for their level, encumbrance only makes the balance issue more delicate. (although personally I like the encumbrance feature)

< Message edited by Wiseman -- 8/31/2011 22:30:05 >
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8/31/2011 22:21:28   
button33
Member

With encumbrance, a level 29 weapon can be used by a level 25. So by bring up the damage by 3 or 4 and adding 1 or 2 more stats, would it not be on par with current weapons and allow lower levels to use them?
AQW Epic  Post #: 29
8/31/2011 23:47:38   
bluemagic
Member
 
quote:

it would be better if like promo weapons you could hand down to another character on your account so they would still be useable


this would be great, but would pose security issues
Epic  Post #: 30
9/1/2011 3:36:00   
zion
Member

@Wiseman

Thanks for the response... looking forward to some chaos reduction ;)

A lingering issue remains, however. What to do with items that take up inventory, but aren't useful and can't be sold?

Will the paucity of inventory space be addressed in the near future?

Some suggestions include:
1) Many battle tokens for bag slots
2) Separate booster / non-battle items inventory (This shouldn't be a bandwidth issue... assuming the database structure isn't so mangled)
3) Trade-in items (suggested elsewhere)

Thanks for listening!

--Noiz
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 31
9/1/2011 11:46:58   
InceptionAE
Member

@gk

They can do like AQW, all AC items don't count as space. So we'll just make it so rares don't count any space. Or maybe since their introducing a bank soon. (Taken from ED DN's) they'll do that. =]
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 32
9/1/2011 13:51:32   
NecroCrime
Member

It's about the thought behind it. they made the beta weapons 10 slots so they'll be effective later on. if they, however are not effective as they are inferior in terms of damage, they might want to consider updating them or something..however I respect if they decide not to (:
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9/2/2011 11:10:32   
Remorse
Member

@wiseman,

If ED is put off leveling (not buffing at same level) wepons by the fact that low level wont be able to use them, then that is pathetic.
I know you guys can come up with a solution to it (If not i will!!) we should be able to use rares evan if they are weaker but still usable it would be good its what things like beta founder alphas etc were made for! not to rust away!, I think alot of people would be happy if they were at least made level 30-31 therfore having 30-31 primary damage which will also get rid of the level to power of wepon issue (which is more of a problem then lower levels not being able to wield them for a small time.)

Ways of getting round the lower level weilding issue.
- Increase the encumberance amount of these item ONLY.
-Give those who were a lower then the change in the increase of levels a free 10000 credits.
- keep the wepons the same as they are but alow us to level them up to our level for a possible fee.
Epic  Post #: 34
9/2/2011 18:15:55   
Stabilis
Member

How many level 25s do we still have using beta weapons? Or did they all level up? -sunshine-
AQ Epic  Post #: 35
9/2/2011 20:13:53   
redxtra
Member

theres a reason why they wont be lvled up or buffed, its because they were good at the time when they came out and dominated then. now delta weapons had taken its place and when the next phase weapons come out then those will take deltas place and so on and so forth.

so instead of seeking for a buff, have it be able so you could hand them down to another character on your account so then you can still use them and everyone is happy
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9/2/2011 20:28:10   
Ubear
Member

@wiseman: how about making a beta only shop where there are higher levelled versions of the beta weapons? or making the weapon's level 25-levelcap?

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AQ Epic  Post #: 37
9/2/2011 21:30:56   
Shadronica
Member

What manner of misinformation is this?

The Beta weps are NOT strong. They are purely for a build specialist and that is all.

Oh yeah I forgot we don't want diversity do we? Silly me for thinking that having a unique build is what is wanted in ED. :P

Put another nail in the coffin guys.

We wouldn't like any little sad reminders that Founders or Beta players existed would we?

< Message edited by Shadronica -- 9/2/2011 21:37:14 >
DF AQW Epic  Post #: 38
9/2/2011 23:15:25   
Remorse
Member

^Aparantly not,
They would rather will slowly die down to nothing then to do something about it, Alot like our money allowence.

@redextra,
Thats a bad reason because they WERNT even good at the time!, They have always been lvl 25 wepons and thier as always been better alternatives! They only time they are good and OPED is if your a 25 but levelng them up would change this issue use your dam brains devs!.

< Message edited by Remorse -- 9/2/2011 23:19:19 >
Epic  Post #: 39
9/3/2011 5:49:47   
Wiseman
Member

Since there will be no more buffing to the Beta Weapons, I feel that this topic should be closed.

Thread Locked.

http://forums2.battleon.com/f/tm.asp?m=19570518

< Message edited by Wiseman -- 9/3/2011 21:30:07 >
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