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4/30/2012 0:18:07   
ND Mallet
Legendary AK!!!


 @void If you make it think, then it can and probably will grow smarter and attempt rebellion. Generally stuff that thinks freely can learn pretty well. Also, what's so different about telling it stats the enemy has and giving it code to do certain things in certain conditions. I'm pretty sure it has code for telling it which damage type to focus on more, skill effects and cost(although none use any EP drains that I know of so that would be pointless). I know for a fact that using Smoke, Malf or FC generally can cause an NPC to shield or having high strength.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 301
4/30/2012 0:34:55   
Stabilis
Member

Rebellion being self-programming. :/

If a program can program, then that would be possible, but very complex. To accomplish that, very defined writing procedures that use known functions, operators, exception handling, syntax parsing, logic apprehension and editing... even selective statements inside of itself to make that happen. But still, thousands of lines of code to hold this could make it possible.

EpicDuel AI does not know % rates yet though, which is something I mentioned on the previous page. When Malfunctioned, NPCs do not know any better to avoid using a gun because of deflections, same for being blocked when under Smokescreen. The AI of this game also does not compare the reliability of melee to ranged, by this I mean that a Strike could hit 5 damage, but a gun could always hit 3, so including rate:damage ratio reading and determining from that can increase their damage in total.

AQ Epic  Post #: 302
4/30/2012 0:37:13   
Joe10112
Member

AIs follow set attacks.

For instance, against Valery, (and) it goes like dis (Maroon 5)

Gun
Bunker/Stun Grenade
Multi-Shot
Gun
Strike
(Dead by now)

EVERY SINGLE TIME. Gets really easy to predict. But soon, the NPCs will be...harder. I fear that rise of machine.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 303
4/30/2012 2:26:33   
Arevero
Member

@Hun

Alpha/Beta are Phase specials, reasonable i think.


O O OI me want NPC revamp :D

Add more phrases, and perhaps even communication between NPC and player

Also new abilities and looks!
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 304
4/30/2012 2:31:38   
rayniedays56
Member

New design notes? Ok...make an armor that gives 1000 dexerity and 40000 technology, please and thank you :)


LOLS jk..


But seriously, the Delta Knight armor is amazing :)



LOL yes I was thinking the same thing...but...it is pretty...LOL

< Message edited by rayniedays56 -- 4/30/2012 2:44:08 >
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 305
4/30/2012 2:36:35   
Zeoth
Member

^
It gives a new meaning to tank for Varium mercs >_>
Post #: 306
4/30/2012 6:23:06   
Arevero
Member

Actually, Mercs need a buff, so they have it :D

But only for Varium Mercs sadly :/

MERCS STILL NEED A BUFF :D
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 307
4/30/2012 8:35:55   
ND Mallet
Legendary AK!!!


 @zeoth It's hardly any different from a CH or TLM with a single type armor. About 1-2 points in defense/resistance really.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 308
4/30/2012 11:35:27   
Zeoth
Member

I find CHs and TLMs easier to deal with than bunker SS high energy combo. It's quite scary even with an emp
Post #: 309
4/30/2012 11:40:43   
Stabilis
Member

@zeoth,

One of our balance issues is that we give classes without passive hp/ep restoration extra power on some of their skills, and some combinations can be found exploited. Such as your SS + BB combo mentioned, or Fireball + Berz is another good example! Although Blood Mage WAS nerfed for the... literally power synergy that went well with Bloodlust. Since Mercenary has average passive skills, we would be less likely to deal with the class UNLESS there is strong supporting evidence from BT.
AQ Epic  Post #: 310
4/30/2012 14:52:32   
Fay Beeee
Member


quote:

Nightwraith ‏ @Nightwraith_ED Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
For those who missed it, LQS restocked this morning. There're still some left, so get them before they're gone!


Still a few there now. :)
Epic  Post #: 311
4/30/2012 14:54:47   
One Winged Angel1357
Member


 even smarter NPC's. You know what that means and if you don't let me tell you the warning titan gave out when they gave the NPC's the ability to talk.

If an NPC asks for your password there is nothing the staff can do because they have developed into sentient beings.

My way is different then Titan's but it is the same meaning and I hope to go digging in the DN's and find that quote later today
AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 312
4/30/2012 14:59:24   
ND Mallet
Legendary AK!!!


 You all thought I was crazy but even Titan warned about the NPCs becoming sentient. Don't whine to me when they start rewriting their own code and buffing themselves to adapt because you wanted true artificial intelligence rather than more conditional coding.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 313
4/30/2012 19:18:24   
One Winged Angel1357
Member
quote:

The age of silence is over! Now NPCs will talk trash right back at you will an intelligent chat system that detects player status and adjusts to the
current situation. If an NPC ever asks for your account information, report them is useless because that means the game has become self-aware!


from Gamma Evolution 1.1.1e
AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 314
4/30/2012 20:40:32   
PivotalDisorder
Member

we definitely need improved AI. come on guys. also I think the higher level NPCs should have 2 versions, one for normal users and one for advanced.
right now, either the NPC is too easy for variums but beatable for non-vars, or too hard for non-vars and a decent challenge for variums. if we are gonna
have 2 tiers of players then we really need 2 tiers of NPCs. it is definitely an issue IMO. having 2 tiers really benefits the non-vars to be honest, the vars
can still fight the easier version if they want to, or the harder one if they actually want the acclaim of beating them, say with a specific build or partner.

< Message edited by PivotalDisorder -- 4/30/2012 20:43:58 >

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Post #: 315
5/1/2012 3:42:07   
8x
Member

On images for Veteran weapons it says that they are seasonal rares, could a staff member confirm if that is a bug (just like on Delta knight armor) or are they really seasonal rares?

http://www.epicduelwiki.com/images/1/16/VeteranBattlegearClub.png
Epic  Post #: 316
5/1/2012 3:52:37   
Arevero
Member

Did Charfade's Cruiser get restocked, or was it sold out again D:

When it was restocked i was probably busy :/

OH WELL, i'll wait again for CharCrus, it's 2 awesome to let go :D
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 317
5/1/2012 4:10:05   
SoniKRiP
Member

any chance of a delta bike? i got the armor and its every part epic!
O.O i'm so dumb I thought you could only get the armor once ur on the levelO.O Stupid me!
AQW Epic  Post #: 318
5/2/2012 0:43:45   
AxeOFury
Member

is the Delta knight armor ultra rare? It says so in the package, but in game it's seasonal. I need some clarification.
AQ  Post #: 319
5/2/2012 0:47:12   
Goony
Constructive!


 The ingame tag will be adjusted in the next update to "Ultra Rare", the same as Founder armor!
Epic  Post #: 320
5/2/2012 0:50:30   
AxeOFury
Member

Alright, thanks :)
AQ  Post #: 321
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