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5/13/2012 12:55:08   
PivotalDisorder
Member

quote:

The range needs to be 26-22 to be more reasonable.

if that is your honest opinion then maybe troll is the wrong word.

only way 2 26s beat a fully enhanced varium player is if those 26s have got some high quality gear, awesome builds, work well as a team,
understand the best way to down Juggs and have a monumental amount of luck. I can already maintain 90%+ win rate with range as it is.
Post #: 26
5/13/2012 13:01:10   
Wraith
Member
 

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We paid $10 to lose again and again? No, I paid 1200 Varium to get some easy wins.

Not get constantly bashed by lower levels.

I agree with Angels Holocaust.

The lower levels have 0 right to win. They didn't pay. WE DID.

Why should we pay Varium to fight in a battle mode that takes longer to find a match, get insulted, and then lose?

Yeah, call me a troll. Whatever. You can't even express your thoughs here anymore.



@Pivotal: My Jugg ratio went from 99.5% to 89%. Yeah, I definitely paid 1200 Var for that...

< Message edited by Wraith -- 5/13/2012 13:02:14 >

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AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 27
5/13/2012 13:05:34   
SouL Prisoner
Member

@ Angels

Yup, the lvl yor talking is a perfect balance for non varium players, and if you see back in time, dev's did a lot for the non variums, mainly in solo mode.. so they could do the same for the juggs,too...but for me...m ok with the current lvl..losing battles only coz of the laggy, and then goes DC :/

Don't mind if theirs any typos , as m using a mob :)


< Message edited by soulprisnerx -- 5/13/2012 13:06:30 >
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 28
5/13/2012 13:10:52   
PivotalDisorder
Member

@Wriath: I also got Gold Skull Card on my mage, we didn't pay for Juggernaut, we paid to test the feature early and got an achievement.
I felt ripped off, but not by the mode at all. go look at 2v2 leaderboard, no one is above 85% so what is problem with 89%+ in Jug?

also I know you always defend buffy and angels, so gotta take anything you say with a pinch of salt too. Elitist snobs are always biased.
Post #: 29
5/13/2012 13:11:05   
Retrosaur
Member
 

 No offense, but the class range should be 1-4. Just saying.
AQW Epic  Post #: 30
5/13/2012 13:18:00   
SouL Prisoner
Member

Lol , now you guys are in a troll mode :/ lvl 1-4. :O
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 31
5/13/2012 13:20:04   
Teufel Hunden
Member

@pivotal disorder

on the 2v2 all-time leaderboards there is my friend wit almost 86% 2v2 wins so dont say there is no one with 85%+

also, quit bagging on angels and buffy it doesnt get you anything... what do you gain from bashing others? the answer is ridicule and nothing good comes from it

next, i think that since we paid 1200 for gold skull card they should make the levels like what angels said...

@hypedxlord

that is too low haha


although it is true we got a cheevo for testing out the feature a cheevo isnt really worth 1200 varium...

but hey it is not my game so i am not the decision maker... i respect titan, nightwraith, and the rest of the staff and i have trust in them and whatever they do i will be happy with because they

made this game up from nothing and now look where it is... amazing how they did this.

Thank you and have a great day,

~Sir Bomb Expert~
(Da Bomb Expert)

< Message edited by The Game -- 5/13/2012 23:50:56 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 32
5/13/2012 13:20:39   
DeathGuard
Member

Going defensive in Juggernaut is not useful for me sinceI got low defenses, so I go for high damage, I kill the strongest one first and then the weakest one, I have woon 6 and lost 6 fights, I will try to get my wins higher than my loses though
AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 33
5/13/2012 13:28:15   
SouL Prisoner
Member

@death

Just a advice,if you want to have good record in jugg,try to kill the easy opponent first :)

This way u won't waist your turns trying to kill the hard one,while the easy is still banging you, when you can kill the easy in 3 turns.. its good strategy..


< Message edited by soulprisnerx -- 5/13/2012 13:31:26 >
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 34
5/13/2012 13:29:55   
DeathGuard
Member

Trust me it doens't works for me xD I just got 2 wins right now because I killed the stronger ones, had 2 boosters and could heal 3 times and overshadow the weak opponent :D
AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 35
5/13/2012 13:30:20   
PivotalDisorder
Member

@DaBombExpert: I meant daily :) sorry, I'll go edit it into my post. all-time leaderboard doesn't reflect the current state of the game, which was why I meant the daily.

1200 was too expensive and I have called them out on it multiple times but many were very happy with the weeks testing [free wins usually] and the cheevo especially.
either way, we didn't pay for the mode, and we don't really get a say in whether it should be 100% free wins or 85%+ for full variums. 22-26 is just both sad and sadistic.

quote:

The lower levels have 0 right to win. They didn't pay. WE DID.
maybe level capped Juggernauts should have no health bar, that way they always win :)

< Message edited by PivotalDisorder -- 5/13/2012 13:35:57 >
Post #: 36
5/13/2012 13:37:16   
8x
Member

quote:

So my discussion topic with you guys is when you play Juggernaut do you play defensive or do you just go for the kill and try to take them out as fast as possible? Also what do you think can be done with these types of Maxed out bunker bust and plasma bolt skill trees?


Use high health, high defenses, energy draining skill and assault bot. I do that and all of these builds are easy to beat.
Epic  Post #: 37
5/13/2012 13:43:56   
Teufel Hunden
Member

@pivotal

oh i understand okay...

i agree that 22-26 is a bit low but versing a 31 and 30 is messed up... i think max level should be 28

the cheevo wasnt even worth that much if it were worth more then maybe people would stop being mad...

just saying my opinions... staff doesnt have to take em into consideration but i am able to express how i feel

~Sir Bomb Expert~
(Da Bomb Expert)
AQW Epic  Post #: 38
5/13/2012 13:47:51   
PivotalDisorder
Member

DaBombExpert: max you can face at 33-34 is now 29 ;)

it is reasonable.
Post #: 39
5/13/2012 13:50:01   
Teufel Hunden
Member

@pivotal disorder

think about this...

2 lvl 29 full variums verse you and you prob not gonna win...

although that rarely happens they get very lucky...

so i change it to 27 max :P
AQW Epic  Post #: 40
5/13/2012 13:58:48   
PivotalDisorder
Member

@DBE: so those are the matches you lose. the rest you win. it is good for Juggernauts to actually lose a few matches a day surely....
Post #: 41
5/13/2012 14:00:36   
Teufel Hunden
Member

since i paid freakin 1200 varium i expect to win 95% of those fights fersure :P

not hope for a fair fight and not an OP on their side :P
AQW Epic  Post #: 42
5/13/2012 14:05:01   
Retrosaur
Member
 
quote:

since i paid freakin 1200 varium i expect to win 95% of those fights fersure :P

That's literally $10 USD. Unless you spent $1000 on this game, the devs aren't going to suck up to you and give you what you want. $10 USD is nothing, compared to what other players have spent, like AVA, Comicalbiker, etc.

Paying only gives you the advantage, not an absolute win.

I'll have to side with PivotalDisorder this round....

And i'll repeat somethign. ED is not a pay to win game. If you were looking for it, you don't belong here, because ED isn't the place for that.

< Message edited by hypedxlord -- 5/13/2012 14:06:36 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 43
5/13/2012 14:06:17   
Mr. Black OP
Member

^
Actually less, 2k varium is 10 dollars, 1200 is like 6 dollars.
Epic  Post #: 44
5/13/2012 14:08:28   
Retrosaur
Member
 

 4000 artix points = $20 USD
4000 artix points = 2500 varium
2000 artix points = 1250 varium
2000 artix points = $10 USD

@Mr. Black OP
Thanks though, I get what your trying to say. Even if it is $6, it's measly. It'll pay for ONE dev meal. Just one. And these players think they've contributed half their life savings or something
"But I bought freaking 500 varium!!!!! gosh this is so unfair!!!! i contributed via a measly amount of mo ney

< Message edited by hypedxlord -- 5/13/2012 14:10:29 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 45
5/13/2012 14:12:04   
Mr. Black OP
Member

^
I was comparing it to the 10k pack which is 10k artix points. 10k varium is 50 dollars.
10k varium = $50
2k varium = $10
1k varium = $5
1200 varium = $6
Epic  Post #: 46
5/13/2012 14:26:03   
Angels Holocaust
Member

I'm pretty sure that we payed to win my friends. That's why varium was created, I tried doing juggernaut after this update and man, it's still pretty hard. If two lower lv players somehow manage to bunker, multishot, artillary strike you, and somehow manage to get a crit on you, your done son.
Post #: 47
5/13/2012 14:32:39   
PivotalDisorder
Member

sounds like you got a bad build ^^ :)
Post #: 48
5/13/2012 14:40:36   
Teufel Hunden
Member

@hypedxlord

i been in this game for a long time (week after founder ended)

dont tell me that i dont know anything about this game and how it isnt pay to win... tell me something... if you didnt have varium would you lose way more?

the answer is yes!

i have been in this game through the good and bad times... i have paid a lot towards this game (around 1k or so, but i use most of my varium on class change, exp boost, token boost etc)... but sadly

most of my equipment was hacked off me due to a software hack but that is besides the point... i have paid lots towards epicduel and i dont want them to "suck up" to me as you had said before... i

just want them to take some valid points into consideration...
AQW Epic  Post #: 49
5/13/2012 14:45:20   
Stabilis
Member

Hey.

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What if we drop the level range by quite a bit and make it 3 on 1?
AQ Epic  Post #: 50
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